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Jan 13, 2011 15:28:37 GMT
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Ordered one of these  Should be here by the beginning of next week. Fitting it might show an improvement, who knows? I had spoken with someone on a North American Yahoo! forum who said that when the lambda begins to fail the vehicle will run badly when cold, but once up to temperature reasonably, once it quits out then there's not a whole lot of hope for it running right. That and the MAP sensor. SWMBO said I could have the lambda sensor though, after a slight misunderstanding that led her to think I had spent her birthday money from last year (what had happened was I'd said this item was about $40, she should that there was only $40 left of the original $200, and had coerced me into letting her buy some jewelry as a result lol) By the end of this it'll be interesting to have a list of things that were at fault. That and the aircon has recently stopped functioning. The ECU controls it, so there's no telling. Hopefully it's just a fuse. --Phil |
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Jan 13, 2011 16:05:51 GMT
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Brilliant thread. I have an interest (well, a general interest in cars!!), in forgotten cars, such as the Renault 9. They'll always be etched on my conciousness because of an early European advert my father did the lighting for. AMC and Renault were very much in bed in the pre Chrysler days, cars such as the Eagle Premier (based on the Renault 25) were incredibly underatted cars, yet provided the basis for the 'Cab Forward' Chryslers of the early 90's. I think the 300M was the last car (car before the awesome 300C) to be based on the basic Eagle Premier platform. Early press and brochure photos for the Premier, do show the car sporting Renault badges I think  . |
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Jan 13, 2011 16:47:14 GMT
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the 9 will always be etched on my memory for the 1.4's starter-motor sound, and the noise of the engine catching but not quite running. Every morning, without fail, my neighbour's 9 would reliably not start. I'm surprised that the GTA carries Renault badges, but they were pushing the small-car range as Renault and seemingly trying to run a different marque for the more prestige models (except the Fuego, don't know why that slipped the badge-engineered net). I think I'm going to slap a few AMC stickers on it for good measure anyhow. --Phil |
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stefan
Posted a lot
If it isn't broken fix it till it is
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Jan 13, 2011 18:24:46 GMT
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Well glad to see you got back ok mate and still going at this one
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POWER IS EVERYTHING WITHOUT CONTROL
1985 Honda jazz
1997 Saab 93 convertible
2010 transit 280
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Well glad to see you got back ok mate and still going at this one Oh yeah, this is going to be an ongoing project too. I'm hoping this makes a positive impact on the running. If it does, I'm going to finalise bolting bits on and put it in for inspection. --Phil |
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And, a link to the advert!! Was made for the French market.
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Jan 14, 2011 19:34:47 GMT
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And, a link to the advert!! Was made for the French market. That is suitably weird. I'm still wondering what Europe would have made of the 2-door, 2.0 litre GTA. --Phil |
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Chris™
Part of things
This is clearly filler material.
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Jan 14, 2011 19:58:12 GMT
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I have to say, I admire your perseverance - I would have taken a can of fuel and some matches to it by now! As others have said, i'm enjoying seeing how you solve each problem and narrowing it down bit by bit - keep at it and you'll be there soon enough! ;D
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Jan 14, 2011 20:39:43 GMT
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I have to say, I admire your perseverance - I would have taken a can of fuel and some matches to it by now! As others have said, i'm enjoying seeing how you solve each problem and narrowing it down bit by bit - keep at it and you'll be there soon enough! ;D I have a feeling I will probably end up doing what I said I was probably going to have to do but was going to avoid- I have time but not much cash, so faultfinding by throwing all-new sensors at it is a cheat as far as I'm seeing... but by the end of all this it's probably going to be the case. Mostly because all the sensors are seemingly all problematic. Who was it who was screaming for me to megasquirt it again? lol --Phil |
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Pants update.
Stuck the battery on today, twisted the key and it started on the fifth compression stroke.
Seems I'm going to have to buy another spanner as the oxygen sensor is larger than any of my non-adjustable tools.
That and it's going to be "fun" to remove.
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DutyFreeSaviour
Europe
Back For More heartbreak and disappointment.....
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Jan 17, 2011 10:53:40 GMT
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Unbelievable patience Phil - I'd have thrown this to the 'gators a long while back! Interesting reading on the baud rates too - I didn't go into it as much as you now obviously have. Well done and good luck! I'm over in Belgium - not sure if this place (or nearby France) would yield anything you may need but I can look/trawl if necessary. Very best of luck with her - after all that's been done - she'll be worth it  John |
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Jan 17, 2011 17:36:14 GMT
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I have plenty of time; I've rushed things in the past and regretted it, moreso when the vehicle you're attempting to repair is the one that's destined to take you to work in the morning. Once it's actually on the road it may be a different story, but so long as the Silverado is running, the GTA can go at the very relaxed pace it's been running at lately. That and it's been interesting to learn about it Only thing I'm on the lookout for that I can't get here is an indicator stalk that the main beam isn't broken on. Mine flashes but doesn't flipflop from dip to main beam when the lights are on. The mechanism inside has broken. --Phil |
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Nice surprise.
Purchased a 22mm combi wrench yesterday ($17! They had better honor the lifetime warranty) after the oxygen sensor turned up.
Whoever decided to place the oxygen sensor where they did needs to be shot, hung out to dry and paraded around the streets because there is no tool which can get an adequate grip on the thing.
That and the plug is too big to go through the closed end of the wrench...
Nevertheless after dropping the exhaust downpipe and lopping the plug off off I was able to get just enough clearance to get the old one out. Putting the new one in proved more of a challenge and was attacked from above with the minimal clearance provided, and tightened up.
Put the exhaust on again, set it back on the floor, stuck the battery back on and gave the key a twist.
Ran for all of half a second then died.
Started it again and it settled to a high idle and gradually (!) brought the revs down and at 1500 it stalled out again.
Figuring that was it, started it again and it settled down to a steady 1100rpm idle (the reason for the odd starting was the battery was very flat and the alternator jitters when it's providing a high current, to regulate, and the computer was really not liking it.
Backed it up the driveway, it spat a few times, but pointed it down the road and pulled away nice and smooth to the neighbor's driveway... turned about, got into second gear on the return trip and pulled into the drive.
Woohoo!
I'll have to wipe the windscreen, tie the lights on and film it for proof. Next up, it really needs an air filter... that's the reason it would seem the "limp" map wasn't able to cope.
Mojo back again!
--Phil
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Was going to film driving down the road but I got boxed in by everybody turning up at the house, so I turned my attention to the (now) non-functioning air conditioner.
The aircon itself works if I bypass the circuit and apply power to the relay.
I have yet to determine if the switch and/or circuit is sending the A/C request signal correctly to the computer or not. Circuit diagrams now required...
--Phil
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Aircon turns out to be a complete lack of refrigerant.
Somewhat academic now as the fuel pump (which I fitted not long ago) quit.
Not particularly happy about that, email to firm to see if they'll warrant it.
--Phil
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DutyFreeSaviour
Europe
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Jan 22, 2011 20:58:21 GMT
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For cryin' out loud Phil.... I really wxould be placing the ad in the local craigslist...... this muct be torturous...... I'll keep an eye peeled and speak with the local old skool parts boys I use here. See if we can dig something up for you. Best of luck - would another fuel pump not do the same job? Hopefully that would be more reliable  John |
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hairymel
Club Retro Rides Member
avatar by volksangyl
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Jan 22, 2011 23:27:15 GMT
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Phil- although you are the other side of the atlantic we seem to keep similar forum hours  your masterclass in dogged determination gives me a huge mojo boost, so thanks, and a chunk of mojo back at ya |
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whats that burning smell?
oh curse word :-(
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Jan 23, 2011 20:00:57 GMT
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For cryin' out loud Phil.... I really wxould be placing the ad in the local craigslist...... this muct be torturous...... I'll keep an eye peeled and speak with the local old skool parts boys I use here. See if we can dig something up for you. Best of luck - would another fuel pump not do the same job? Hopefully that would be more reliable John John, Technically another pump could be used, if I put a pick-up from the top of the tank down to the base, and have a suction line. It only has to run at about 25psi, being throttle body, and is regulated at the injector, in a bleed-off situation. Getting the tank down (it's 1/3 full of fuel) and getting the pump out again is a pain. I'm going to hoik this one out and take a looksee at why it's quit. It might be something as simple as one of the flying leads to the pump has just decided to break, as I've disturbed it. No idea yet, but the car did sputter and stall a bit then die, so I think it's the pump motor. Phil- although you are the other side of the atlantic we seem to keep similar forum hours your masterclass in dogged determination gives me a huge mojo boost, so thanks, and a chunk of mojo back at ya Mel, That is high praise coming from you, who I see as one of the most determined people on here to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse (and succeeding!). I think a mutual keep with it, it'll be worth it /in too deep to stop now / if I stopped I wouldn't know what to do on an evening - seems to apply --Phil |
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hairymel
Club Retro Rides Member
avatar by volksangyl
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Jan 23, 2011 21:22:54 GMT
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I think a mutual keep with it, it'll be worth it /in too deep to stop now / if I stopped I wouldn't know what to do on an evening - seems to apply all good by me |
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whats that burning smell?
oh curse word :-(
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Jan 24, 2011 15:16:10 GMT
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Okay, good news. Contacted the people whom I purchased the pump from and they say the pump comes with a 1-year manufacturer defect warranty. This is good, so I shall drop the tank, check that there's not a problem with my wiring, test the pump for continuity and if it's bad, ship it back to them (which they said they'd pay for if that's the case) for inspection and repair/replacement. Only downside is the tank will be off the car and open to the elements but it's better than having to pay $60 for another pump. More tank-dropping action ahead. I might as well just post the same series of photographs again as it's some dull shiz.  Fuel tank, for good measure. --Phil |
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