Joshy
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Dec 31, 2008 22:38:09 GMT
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I'm sat here trying to get ideas for my next project and I've decided to enlist the help of Retro Rides as I keep on going through the same choices over and over again.
I'm 17, I've been through a bunch of project cars that were quickly abandoned when Mr. Insurance man informed me just how painful my annual premiums would be.
The sensible option going through my head is a MK2/MK3 Polo or 1.3 MK2 Golf with are cheap as chips to insure. What I'd like is an e30 316i Touring or old school RWD 1600cc Celica (and to lesser extent, a 205 XS) , but insurance on those are quite a bit more due to them having just about enough poke to out run a legless Sloth ;D.
I thought I'd ask here to see if there are some other Retro cars I should know about. I have heard that older Fords and Vaxuhalls could be a good bet, but I know curse word all about "proper" retro motors.
So the question is rather simple, if you were 17 years old and looking for a project car come runabout, what would you go for!?
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Dec 31, 2008 22:42:20 GMT
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when I was 17 I bought a mk2 1300 escort. that might be a bit pricey now, I got mine in 1990. followed that up with a chevette. still a great first car these days. shouldnt cost a fortune to buy one, or insure it. they come in 3 flavours and respond well to mods that might not put your premium through the roof.
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Dec 31, 2008 22:52:29 GMT
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Renault 4 with slammage would be cool Or Skoda Felicia rally sl*g lookee likee would be good too My first car was a Fiat X1/9 it cost as much in insurance as it did to buy!
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Joshy
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Dec 31, 2008 22:55:13 GMT
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With a annual premium of £4525.11, I somehow doubt it ;D. Could somebody chip in more information on the Chevettes please? I have a friend who had one (he was putting an MX5 engine into it! ), but I never paid the car too much attention to it... well, apart from the rust that the engine bay was caked in ;D
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Seth
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MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
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Dec 31, 2008 23:00:22 GMT
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Buy something proper old, RWD and sloth like but that handles well enough for you to learn how to four wheel drift roundabouts at 10mph without killing yourself or your insurance premium. Morris Minor Austin A40
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Last Edit: Dec 31, 2008 23:00:57 GMT by Seth
Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Dec 31, 2008 23:00:57 GMT
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bazboy
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Jetta - Its like a golf but better.....
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Dec 31, 2008 23:03:58 GMT
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Go for a 340, there cheap to run and insure will last forever are safe, have an amazing dedicated forum, are retro and are rear wheel drive, and the smaller 1.4 isn't bad either(coming from experience) its surprisingly nippy and if going sideways is your bag (not advisable until you've got some experience lol) then it will get you there fairly nicely, then there's the 1.7 which is quite similar to the 1.4 ive heard but with higher top end acceleration, both would be cheap to insure and would make good projects.
Dan
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1986 - VW Jetta GT 16v 1986 - Volvo 340 1991 - Volvo 460
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Dec 31, 2008 23:05:21 GMT
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Buy something proper old, RWD and sloth like but that handles well enough for you to learn how to four wheel drift roundabouts at 10mph without killing yourself or your insurance premium. Well said that man! My nextdoor neighbour bought their son a spanking new Clio when he passed his test 2 years ago.....since then hes written it off plus 2 replacement Corsas and now cant drive anything as his premiums are well over £3000 a year on ANYTHING! They should have listened to me when I told them to buy him a £30 banger!!!
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jikovron
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Dec 31, 2008 23:06:39 GMT
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i bought a skoda estelle,,,,,,,,,,,cheap to insure and run,,,,,,i kicked it in/drifted it regularly and it's rugged construction laughed in my face (insurance group 5,,,,,,and 6 for the 130/136 rapid)
volvo 340/360 of all engine sizes were all cheap to insure,,,,and have rwd fun,,and are very tunable (ins group 7-9)
small vauxhalls (chevettes,nova's,kadettes) seam to be reasonably cheap to buy and parts are still reasonably available
morris minors have unbelievable parts availability,,free tax,,,very cheap insurance,,,again rwd fun,,,but they cant handle enthusiastic accelaration up due to transmission weakness
bmw's of any sort are rather steep insurance wise,,as my good friend found out at 20 years of age
i went in a mk2 1.3 golf and was staggered at how sluggish it was (54bhp),,,,it looked really good being jet black
renualt 5's have just started to emerge from the boyracer scene,,,,,and i reckon the 1.4 spi and 1.7gtx are genuinely good all round cars (1.7 is virtually as fast as the turbo but is a rarity these day's) (ins group 5-9)
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Dec 31, 2008 23:42:15 GMT
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mk2 polos aint a bad car...choice of coupe or breadvan , still rust free(ish ) cars available for not silly money
easy to work on and parts are pretty cheap and most stuff is easily avail
brakes are a bit poor , but that'l teach you to keep your distance lol
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91 golf g60, 89 golf 16v , 88 polo breadvan
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Dec 31, 2008 23:47:39 GMT
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i was 18 when i passed my test, and to be fair if you look around insurance isnt a issue, i had, in order
1.6 sunny slx (1600 16v twin cam, goes well) e30 316i saloon 400 rover saloon (1.6 16v etc...curse word) mk3 1.1 fiesta 1.1 106 (seriously underrated) skoda fabia vrs (sporty diesel model, still cheap cheap to insure but on par with st, gti etc) e36 328i touring (cheaper than fabia to insure, despite being nigh on 3 litre straight six with 190bhp) 1.4 corsa b sport (curse word...curse word..gf old car...curse word)
so, just look around, and you will find insurance. just remeber big engine cars cost more than you think to run. i used a small fortune on petrol and rear tyres on beemer.
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Dec 31, 2008 23:47:39 GMT
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I bought a Vauxhall Viva, tax exempt, RWD, cheap parts, etc. But they want £3k off me for insurance, but that only changes by about £200 no matter what car I ask for a quote on. Enough about my problems, old, small Vaxuhalls, although rusty, have pretty good parts availability compared to similar stuff, and look QUAL, which is a bonus.
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'67 Vauxhall Viva HB Deluxe
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Dec 31, 2008 23:48:37 GMT
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oh, and insurance was never more than £1600
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Joshy
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There are some interested suggestions he The Volvo 340 has cropped up few a few times, problem is I entire get the opinion that they are perfectly good cars, or I get told that they are utter <interest word that rhymes with Kite> and am laughed at for having such a bad taste in cars . For some reason, the older for some reason really don't push my button. MK2 Escorts are another story though As I've said earlier, I'm ideally after something RWD for the main reason that as soon as I've had my license for a year, Mr. Insurance man says I'm allowed one of these beasts So I reckon picking up the very basics of RWD characteristics in my very first year of driving would be a massive help The failed projects I mentioned earlier were both MK3 Supras. Annoyingly enough, if I did what most kids my age do in regards to insurance (I.E take a policy out in their parent's name), I could have one for less than it costs to insure a 1ltr Polo in my own name. The thought has crossed, but I think I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather have a legit policy and a curse word car for a year than a curse word policy. So whatever I get has to be good enough to distract me from 200BHP RWD exotica fir a year... This is probably going to be harder than I thought . Does anyone know the deal with MK2 Escorts? I've heard that 4drs can be had for reasonable money? I'd prefer one of those over a Chevette. (probably because I've never seen a Vette I've truly liked)
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Last Edit: Jan 1, 2009 1:05:46 GMT by Joshy
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be careful dude, and don't run before you can walk...its going to take more than a year before you can curse word around in a 200bhp beast properly...i went seriously wrong a few times in my 328 when i wasnt trying to be a prick, and i had the experiance of motorbikes for a long time too.
i even managed to wrap my 316 into a bus stop while driving home very tired, and proper munted the car
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:)you will see all sorts of rides on here ,your age and experience you must never underestimate the humble mini ,good handling ,cheap tweaks,good following ,i havent had one for a few years now but am considering getting one just for the 50 year celabrations this year .good luck with your quest
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yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
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Lex
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i suggest a mk2 golf... brilliant first cars.. i should know
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Resto-UKal
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bazboy
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Jetta - Its like a golf but better.....
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The Volvo 340 has cropped up few a few times, problem is I entire get the opinion that they are perfectly good cars, or I get told that they are utter <interest word that rhymes with Kite> and am laughed at for having such a bad taste in cars ./quote] How Dare You!! lol, only kidding, tbh with most old retro rides, specially low insurance ones, there's gonna be people who don't get it and laugh and say you have bad taste, but there's also going to be a lot of people who do get it. I don't car what people think of my car, at the end of the day if it is slow and rusty but makes me smile every time i get in it and drive, then thats all that matters to me, not saying my cars slow and rusty, just using it as an example Dan
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1986 - VW Jetta GT 16v 1986 - Volvo 340 1991 - Volvo 460
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I'm 18, I own a mk2 cortina estate. You know it makes sense also from my travelings I've found bmw 520i tourings to give me premiums back of as little as £750. Expensive yes, but cheap for someone my age
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