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Dec 12, 2008 21:03:14 GMT
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question- can it be done? I thought I'd ask you knowledgable bunch  in a film camera you already have a lens and shutter, lets say it was my kodak 620 for example, can you put a CCD and related gagetry inside it? I mean, all you'd need was a CCd to transmit the image into an electronic code, a controling device and something to store it. could a PCB control be made to convert CCD info into/onto a storage system? I don't think I could you use the guts of a compact digicam into a camera as it wouldn't be shutter controlled. can you program it not to store black images and that way it will only take stills if you open the shutter? I have a real hankering for a digi based retro camera. I know it won't be sharp as a digcam but its just for fun. image bear in mind I have very little electronic knowledge, but I'm a quick learner  anyone have any ideas as to what might be involved or needed? a thousand thanks imagine a TLR that can take images in digtal JPEG format   |
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Dec 12, 2008 21:14:51 GMT
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gut the whole camera, put a flat glass lense in and simply fit a cheapo dig behind it.. maybe have flash coming out top lense and ccd looking out bottom window !! would be a cool mod lol
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Dec 12, 2008 21:50:50 GMT
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it can be done! already being done, alot on flickr about it. www.flickr.com/groups/throughtheviewfinder/its not quite as straight forward as a compact camera though, its called TTV (Through the Viewfinder) you tke a shot through the viewfinder of a camera to get digital versions through that camera. see here www.russmorris.com/ttv/ some i did with a fisheye viewfinder through the camera on my mobile, similar principle just not so good.    |
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Dec 12, 2008 21:57:30 GMT
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There was a piece of vapourware doing the rounds a few years ago, a drop-in digital camera device for 35mm cameras. It never materialised.
There was also someone who modified a large format bellows camera by fitting a flatbed scanner where the plate would go. Some amazing effects with movement.
If I were approaching this I'd fit the camera with a screen at the back where the film goes, remove its shutter and place the guts of a digital camera with a macro lens focused on the screen. Maybe a ground glass screen with the digital camera bits behind it. OK then the back of the camera is bulky.
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Dec 12, 2008 21:59:08 GMT
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Cool idea - I have a digital camera in bits awaiting a suitable retro shell, only trouble is every retro camera I get I just can't bear to take apart! One day I'll find a broken retro camera though, which shall donate its body to science... ;D
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Dec 12, 2008 22:10:41 GMT
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OK. I've had enough. For the LOVE OF GOD there is no apostrophe in "cameras".
Thank you.
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Dec 12, 2008 23:08:15 GMT
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to go the extreme, you would move the digital lense up into the front of the old lense, scrap all the old internals, trigger each function my using switches that can be triggered by the old controls, and cut the display screen into the back case of the old camera. sounds like somethign I have to try in the new year |
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i've always wanted to build a mobile phone into one of those old skool rotary dial phones and connect up the bells and everything.
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Cool idea - I have a digital camera in bits awaiting a suitable retro shell, only trouble is every retro camera I get I just can't bear to take apart! One day I'll find a broken retro camera though, which shall donate its body to science... ;D Do you want my broken Zenit 11? The shutter has kenked it. Luckily I have an almost identical spare one. ;D Here's a retro-styled cheap digital camera  |
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OK. I've had enough. For the LOVE OF GOD there is no apostrophe in "cameras". Thank you. I am only a mechanic, not a scribe FFS. fixed now    thanks for the ideas so far . really liked the idea of having it manual shutter and aperture controlled, using the old camera's functions. not much of a clue what controling pieces would be required though  |
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Dec 13, 2008 14:14:12 GMT
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Dec 13, 2008 14:14:57 GMT
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I am only a mechanic, not a scribe FFS. fixed now Sorry, your thread caught me in a moment of Victor Meldrew like grammar-nazi grumpiness. I put together a quick sketch of one way you could do it, given a TLR body big enough, a cheap digital camera small enough and a macro lens capable of focusing close enough.  |
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Dec 13, 2008 14:30:10 GMT
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I am only a mechanic, not a scribe FFS. fixed now Sorry, your thread caught me in a moment of Victor Meldrew like grammar-nazi grumpiness. I put together a quick sketch of one way you could do it, given a TLR body big enough, a cheap digital camera small enough and a macro lens capable of focusing close enough. This would work better if you chopped the lens off an old camera and built a box specifically for it. Or you can buy lens and apperture units for use on homemade wooden box cameras. However the easiest thing to do here would be to build a bracket and housing to shoot through the viewfinder. Get a TLR camera and focus your digicam on the viewfinder screen (which is about 1.5" square). There is a whole community of ppl who do this already: It's called TTV (through the viewfinder) www.google.co.uk/search?q=ttv+photography&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
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Last Edit: Dec 13, 2008 14:31:11 GMT by TS
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Dec 13, 2008 15:32:39 GMT
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sorry, I didn't read the whole thread. I see someone already mentioned TTV
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Dec 13, 2008 15:46:59 GMT
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thank you all. I think I was wanting the impossible at first, but some good ideas here I haven't got a TLR (yet) but just used that as an example. chopping the lens off of a cheapo point and shoot was an idea I had, using the apperture control and lens of the donor film cam, hopefully getting those oldy looking shots. just bouncing ideas around really. I realised that all mini digicams have no shutter so only take the image when the CCD becomes live, I hadn't thought that dslr's also work that way. the ccd can't be live all the time, it would certainly screw anyone that used mirror lockup I thought about mounting a digicam inside my 620 bellows too, but I don't know if I'm even capable  I assume the CCD/cmos would need to be at the same distance from the lens as the film would have originally been? thank you all again |
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Dec 13, 2008 16:05:27 GMT
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If anyone sold a nice 10-12 megapixel back for my Minolta SLR, I'd have it in a heartbeat instead of shelling out £300-£400 for a Nikon / Canon DSLR. Stick a Li-ion battery where the 35mm film goes and an SD card slot on the back, keep the wind-on lever for genuine retro-ness...Bingo! |
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Dec 17, 2008 22:00:20 GMT
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I've got these two which have been kicking about for a while, both ripe for this sort of conversion. Might even get round to having a go sometime.   The Brownie is pretty much empty inside so would probably be the easiest to start with but I do love the style of the Instamatic. |
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I'll give my instamatic a shot when I find a cheap enough digicam to sacrifice, recon that brownie could be great. heaps of space.
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Dec 18, 2008 11:01:59 GMT
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Dec 19, 2008 19:02:36 GMT
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Well I have an old 2meg olympus digi cam sitting around doing nothing if someone wants to tinker with it.. not tiny but all works...
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