kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Oct 13, 2008 20:14:20 GMT
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yep, seem to be spending FAR too much time up at the new lockup, and it's raping me in fuel - will be even more soon as the f100 (5.7 ltr :  will be my only mot'd vehicle when the sunny goes off for racing soon so, how do I stand with mopeds?? had a quick look at the doovla website, and came up with 'You will need to complete CBT if: you want to ride a moped (a moped has an engine not over 50 cc with maximum design speed not exceeding 50 kilometres per hour (km/h) which is approximately 31 miles per hour) you want to ride a motorcycle If you obtained your car licence before 1 February 2001 you do not need to complete a CBT to ride a moped.' ^^ - that looks interesting (I passed oct 2000) so I take that to mean if I get an mot'd, taxed and insured 'ped I'm ready to go?? what am I looking at paying for insurance?? I imagine road tax to be pennies? - do they do tax exempt ones?? I'd prefer an olde-worlde type tbh, so as not to get mistaken for some chavved up 16 year old, so what's available? something like this would be great    or better still (but I think these would be above budget and also too big a capacity??)   I did borrow a cyclemaster fitted to a raleigh bomber at billing this year and it was wicked, but I think they may be a bit hard to get hold of?? anyhoo, any ideas, suggestions and advice welcome! ta - kev |
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Neil
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Oct 13, 2008 20:33:12 GMT
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Yep, you can buy a 'ped & ride it without doing a CBT because as you've pointed out, you gained your full car licence before the cut off! Tax is £15.00 a year & i've just insured my 1990 Yamaha QT50 girly shopping 'ped for £62 - i was asked if i wanted to pay in instalments!   |
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Oct 13, 2008 20:35:35 GMT
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You should be fine riding anything below 50cc, i don't think you need to run L plates either but i'd double check. Honda c50's are bulletproof and non-chav and cost next to nothing to buy and run. Tax is £15 a year (for now) and i don't know the details for your insurance but i can't see it being over £100 (probably far less).
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Oct 13, 2008 20:52:22 GMT
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FIFTEEN QUID TAX FTW!!!!
cheers for the info guys - I'm fine with the L plate for now (maybe french it into the rear mudguard lol) - just got to find one now then!
ta! - kev
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Oct 13, 2008 20:59:31 GMT
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don't rely on a car license
don't even rely on a cbt
do a full bike license. It will probably save your life.
imo, EVERY road user should be made to do a full bike test, it develops your observation and awareness skills SO much.
Its frightening how little you learn on a cbt, and then to think that people ride on the public roads with just that behind them its quite frightening.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Oct 13, 2008 21:06:00 GMT
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fair point, but I've had a few years of cycling in inner city traffic (as well as a few more dodging old giffers round here!) without getting splattered, and this will be used for a 3 mile commute up a country lane, so I reckon we should be ok
although most people who've seen me drive would probably disagree....
- kev
ps - now someone find me a bike!!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Oct 13, 2008 21:14:04 GMT
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whats your budget ? then I'll ask around and see what I can come up with  |
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Oct 13, 2008 21:18:57 GMT
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MINIMAL!
depends on how 'ready to go' it is really
what do cheap, running but tatty things go for?
cheers - kev
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Honda c50's are bulletproof and non-chav and cost next to nothing to buy and run. One effect of the credit crunch, also the Congestion Charge, has been a hike in the price of little bikes and a corresponding dip in the price of older big bikes. So if you find a moped for nest-to-nowt then well done, but beware rubbish for loadsamoney. |
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"Jeremy Clarkson, a man we motor enthusiasts need on our side like Lewis Hamilton's F1 car needs a towing ball and a Sprite Musketeer" My motor |
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Oct 14, 2008 12:22:32 GMT
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I've noticed the prices have gone up on clean ready to go stuff , i've been looking for a 4t 125 for the past month (well, for the past year but more so the past month). As long as you buy something that needs a bit of work it's not too bad, specially if its something mechanical. I think a couple of smaller problems are enough to scare a lot of the buyers off who don't like getting their hands dirty.
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LowStandards
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Oct 14, 2008 13:14:14 GMT
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IIRC the C50 isn't a moped, it makes far to much hp (ha, never thought i'd say that) and can easily exceed the 31mph maximum allowed speed (I think Honda gave the figure of 50mph)
Just thought i'd mention before everyone goes spending there hard earned!
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Mr S
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10-4 Good buddy.
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Oct 14, 2008 15:51:32 GMT
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Yep, what Gimpy said, to be a moped (in the eyes of the government/law), it has to be restricted to 2.9hp and 32mph....
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Oct 14, 2008 16:05:50 GMT
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I thought the C50's would be ok, a family friend who's in the police uses one on his driving lisence i'm sure. I think you may get away with it as the wording states ' design speed not exceeding 50kph'. Definatley worth checking before buying anything though!
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Oct 14, 2008 17:11:00 GMT
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What about a Raleigh Wisp
sort of motorised RSW/chopper.
If you get a C50. You could fit a Monkey bike engine in it. They can be much more powerfull.
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Oct 14, 2008 19:37:26 GMT
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Oct 14, 2008 19:37:48 GMT
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or buy reanimations chicken chaser
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Oct 14, 2008 19:38:38 GMT
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where i bought that cb 175 from he had a honda melody for 150
wouldnt need much to recommission
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Oct 15, 2008 15:11:02 GMT
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I used to ride my Garelli Katia (monkey-style) 49cc bike on my car licence without a CBT. If you can drive a car and are experienced at cycling in traffic then it's fine.
My CBT was hit n' miss (and some of it seemed wrong) as the instructor wasn't exactly the best.
Learning to ride for the big bike test was a good experience and does teach you to do good observations.
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chevazon
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1939 Chevrolet 2 door coupe, `67 `Zon estate, `87 Ragtop Cavalier, 4 x 800 Drifters,(!) 1500 Drifter
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Oct 15, 2008 16:51:09 GMT
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Full bike test - Direct Access the only way to go. It made me a better driver (if that was possible !) and I now look out for other bikers on he road.
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Oct 15, 2008 18:34:52 GMT
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or buy reanimations chicken chaser Eek , I might have a new job and might need actually NEED the chaser now for my new trip to Salford!  --- I'll echo what Keefy said, I ride push bikes, but having some motorbike lessons on a 125 taught me a few useful things, and like to think it has made my driving/push bike riding better despite no powered bike 1996-2008 |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts  |
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will be my only mot'd vehicle when the sunny goes off for racing soon
