Davenger
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It's only metal
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just been stopped in the estate Davenger
@dminifreak
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Aug 27, 2008 17:05:24 GMT
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My thoughts exactly. You'd have to be deaf to not hear that coming. The only real danger is it sucking up small children and animals
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MrSpeedy
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www.vintagediesels.co.uk
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Aug 27, 2008 17:31:42 GMT
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This needs to be contested. If we all just rolled over and took it up the every time they tried to 'invent' a law we'd all be screwed. IIRC obstructions such as your blower are ok if they are part of the vehicles 'structure', and as the car needs an engine, it is obviously part of the vehicle !
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Aug 27, 2008 17:34:13 GMT
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I hope you can get out of this as it sounds highly unfair! I'd go as far as bullying actually People have met me and night mares would say we nice calm people (I hope) but these people can really rub you up the wrong way, either making you get mad/compromising, or accept a bit of paper for something you didn't do, the last guy PC that was clearly out of a Terminator film dressed in black stepping in front of me like a drunk scally was much the same, in many ways I'm luck but if I was lesser man, I would have sworn and wollopped the tw@t ****not all cops are bad some are really nice, a lot are, but there's some absolute arrogant unclued up liabilities out there. **** I'd be tempted to complain if you can prove you were 100% legal, certainly sounds like they were picking for *something* one who stopped me just wanted a fight or to assert him self w-yanker Good luck mate.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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rodit
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Aug 27, 2008 19:55:20 GMT
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Nightmares i am really saddened to hear this, i will ask around the guy's i know with blowers to see if had any experiences of this. All i can say is don't loose heart.
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Low and slow
Why can't i tune it?
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Seth
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MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
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Aug 27, 2008 20:04:39 GMT
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What a bummer!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Aug 27, 2008 20:20:18 GMT
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Just a note that on another forum I used to frequent (PassionFord) a guy on there had a run in with an unreasonable cop who claimed his car wasn't road worthy. He complained to the station and it made his car owning life a bit of a nightmare as then all the local police seemed out to get him. a mate of mine had similar with sussex police. it was so bad he now lives in kent!
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1995 Toyota rav-4 1978 Kawasaki Z650B
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deejay
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Aug 27, 2008 20:21:58 GMT
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Sounds to me like he might have been a PCSO (police community support orrifficer) We've got one in our village, PR1CK is all i can say!!! He drives round in his sunshine bus like he owns the god damn place, pulling cars left right and center... Only problem is he ain't allowed to do that!!! A mate of a mate is also a PCSO and he told me that they're not allowed to use the blues and twos to pull someone on the road... Check it out, you may be able to get out of it like that...
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bstardchild
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Aug 27, 2008 20:24:04 GMT
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Never accept a fixed penalty ticket, point and fine if you intend to contest the issue Sorry meant to giva another reason why you shouldn't acept a FPN unless you accept that you are guilty Refuse it if goes back to the old fashioned way Summons Set court date Paperwork reviewed by senior officer (he might not feel comfortable about it in which case you could possible get a letter along the lines of no further action in this case) If you don't paperwork then goes to CPS Police don't take you to court or make the decision to prosecute - just refer the mater to CROWN prosecution service (CPS) CPS don't like taking on cases they aren't 100% certain of winning (government targets and statistics and all that) Go the old fashioned way and you increase your chances that they "police" or "CPS" will bottle it before the case goes to court And if it does go to court I'm sure you can present an image of a hard working upstanding member of the comunity who happens to respect the law have a passion for cars and a good understanding of the legal requirements of any modifications
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Aug 27, 2008 20:34:40 GMT
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Bad luck, and sorry you got pulled up for probably having a nicer job and car than him.
Not sure about final outcomes, but I would say hope you get something sorted regardless.
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miaspa
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Aug 27, 2008 20:38:36 GMT
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That way out of line.
Contest it otherwise you will have the risk of being pulled, everytime you take it out. Its that or cover up the blower which would spoil the look of the estate.
Must have a procedure of what to do if you wish to contest the ticket. Speak to RAC or AA legal department if a member, found them really helpful in the past.
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Found my flashing Pao again.
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Aug 27, 2008 20:58:18 GMT
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I'd take legal advice before not paying the fine. I suspect that the summons which may result might be for non-payment rather than the alledged (and clearly curse word) traffic offence. That being the case the beak won't be interested in any claims that the issuing officer was a twunt.
I hope you get it sorted. And that the officer in question is struck down with ingrowing toenails.
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Jaguar S-Type 3.0 SE
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Rich G
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Aug 27, 2008 21:52:49 GMT
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Might be worth posting on the "Speed, Plod & the Law" section of Pistoheads (you may have to register to do this). There are several (real) traffic cops who post there plus a good number of lawyers too. May get some helpful advice there. Sounds like the guy who stopped you was a right *spangle*...
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chevazon
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Aug 27, 2008 22:23:07 GMT
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my advice not good enough ?
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Aug 27, 2008 22:36:25 GMT
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cheer's for the support guys. i'm going up to Rayleigh police station tomorrow to see what can be done . the plan is to ask what is in a dangerous condition and what can be done to rectify it without removing the blower as it was all fine when it was mot'd 3 weeks ago . if they can't give a satisfactory answer to this i'll ask why the the officer gave the ticket in the first place and why was he so arrogant about it again if no satisfactory answer can be given i'll then take the official complaints route . if they give a satisfactory answer i will accept the ticket and points and begrudgingly pay up . the daft thing about this whole thing though is that the blower was and is coming off anyway as i have a few changes planned for the car that don't include the supercharger
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tri
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Aug 27, 2008 22:36:48 GMT
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Sounds to me like he might have been a PCSO (police community support orrifficer) We've got one in our village, PR1CK is all I can say!!! He drives round in his sunshine bus like he owns the god damn place, pulling cars left right and center... Only problem is he ain't allowed to do that!!! A mate of a mate is also a PCSO and he told me that they're not allowed to use the blues and twos to pull someone on the road... Check it out, you may be able to get out of it like that... I was thinking that. Our local PCSO doesn't have blues and twos on his car. Started tailing my brother (who's had trouble from some nasty people), so he booted it, guy chased him up to SOMEmph in a residential area, til he lost him down the back streets. The guy then knocked on his door 30 mins later about the incident - brother told him "lucky I didn't stop and break your legs then isn't it" (or words to that effect). Guy scurried off and told him "don't speed" under his breath. Had no place pursuing him, and would have lost his job if my bro had reported him I imagine.. Back on topic, this is another example of a few bad seeds giving the rest of the police a bad name. Sadly, once you've accepted points and a fine you've admitted guilt in the eyes of the law, and afaik you can't contest it. Though you can still take it to the IPCC, and they MIGHT be able to reverse it, but I'm no law scholar so I'm not entirely sure. I woulda gone to court on that one - silly chaps.
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Last Edit: Aug 27, 2008 22:38:39 GMT by tri
I forgot how to retro...
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Aug 27, 2008 22:41:03 GMT
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my advice not good enough ? no all good advise and thanks just not been in long. Wednesday night is our club night at the b52 car or no car i'm pretty much always there
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Aug 27, 2008 22:46:59 GMT
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Sounds to me like he might have been a PCSO (police community support orrifficer) We've got one in our village, PR1CK is all I can say!!! He drives round in his sunshine bus like he owns the god damn place, pulling cars left right and center... Only problem is he ain't allowed to do that!!! A mate of a mate is also a PCSO and he told me that they're not allowed to use the blues and twos to pull someone on the road... Check it out, you may be able to get out of it like that... I was thinking that. Our local PCSO doesn't have blues and twos on his car. Started tailing my brother (who's had trouble from some nasty people), so he booted it, guy chased him up to SOMEmph in a residential area, til he lost him down the back streets. The guy then knocked on his door 30 mins later about the incident - brother told him "lucky I didn't stop and break your legs then isn't it" (or words to that effect). Guy scurried off and told him "don't speed" under his breath. Had no place pursuing him, and would have lost his job if my bro had reported him I imagine.. Back on topic, this is another example of a few bad seeds giving the rest of the police a bad name. Sadly, once you've accepted points and a fine you've admitted guilt in the eyes of the law, and afaik you can't contest it. Though you can still take it to the IPCC, and they MIGHT be able to reverse it, but I'm no law scholar so I'm not entirely sure. I woulda gone to court on that one - silly chaps. no he's a Rayleigh traffic officer not a PCSO . i have a few friends who are police and in general they do a very good job but it only takes a few like 1810 to sour peoples perception of the police
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Davenger
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It's only metal
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just been stopped in the estate Davenger
@dminifreak
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Aug 27, 2008 22:50:22 GMT
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Good luck for tomorrow mate, I'm sure it'll all get sorted.
Me and a mate were yanking the engine out of a metro in one of his fields (he's a farmer and we'd been using it to get from one end of the field to the other) when local Great Bently plod comes along with a snotty attitude and a gob full of empty threats. We tell him who we are and what we're doing there, he does all his checks and finds out he can't do us for anything, get the hump and give my mate a 7 day wonder on his landrover. Wen't to the main nick in clacton the next day and were told we needn't have bothered because the guy is a dick and they never pay any attention to the jumped up little twerp. Hopefully they'll have the same opinion about your nano nazi
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Aug 27, 2008 22:56:22 GMT
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Have you actually accepted the points then? This is absolute kak and should not even have got as far as it has.
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Aug 27, 2008 23:03:13 GMT
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Have you actually accepted the points then? This is absolute kak and should not even have got as far as it has. he issued the ticket but the law states you have 7 days in which to contest it
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