SteveP
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May 28, 2008 11:04:33 GMT
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Good daily cars and drive really nicely, great handling/ride comprimise and nice and quiet cruisers. However, I'd avoid petrol engines. Two 1.6's we've owned we're rubbish, and the Phase 2 1.6's are pretty slow anyway. I'd totally rock a turbo diesel one though, much better than the 406 that followed imo, ask any taxi driver ;D Central locking is awfully unreliable, immobiliser fitted to later cars are too. Nice seats, space, refinement - puts most cars of its generation (and later) to shame. But.. interesting, no. Depends what you're after, fine daily driver companion but not that 'fun'. I got rid of mine because it was boring, and I prefered driving around in the (admittedly) much more antiquated Volvo 360. Here's a pic I took in Cov Transport Museum:
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Last Edit: May 28, 2008 11:10:20 GMT by SteveP
2003 - Volvo S60 D5 SE (Daily) 1989 - Volvo 360 GLT 1985 - Volvo 360 GLS
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Tim
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May 28, 2008 11:33:06 GMT
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Good daily cars and drive really nicely, great handling/ride comprimise and nice and quiet cruisers. However, I'd avoid petrol engines. Two 1.6's we've owned we're rubbish, and the Phase 2 1.6's are pretty slow anyway. I'd totally rock a turbo diesel one though, much better than the 406 that followed imo, ask any taxi driver ;D Central locking is awfully unreliable, immobiliser fitted to later cars are too. Nice seats, space, refinement - puts most cars of its generation (and later) to shame. But.. interesting, no. Depends what you're after, fine daily driver companion but not that 'fun'. I got rid of mine because it was boring, and I prefered driving around in the (admittedly) much more antiquated Volvo 360. Here's a pic I took in Cov Transport Museum: Love this sign above it - "Peugeot 306 ;D 405's are ace - i couldnt find a good one so ended up with a 406
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Padz
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May 28, 2008 11:33:59 GMT
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My personal choice would be the turbo diesel executive, top spec, full leather, great fuel consumption and so so comfy.
My old man had loads of these when he was trading, they're awesome
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"I'd rather lie in a bath of my own excrement than own a Vectra " - 2002gimp 25/1/07 "Anal Alert would be an absolutely superb name for piles cream " - Hirst 28/1/08 1991 - Peugeot 205 GTI 1996 - Rover Mini Cooper
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May 28, 2008 15:51:44 GMT
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it's a great series of films if you like peugeots in odd bodykits.. plus while googling for that image i've come across some sites saying that there's a 4th Taxi film coming out / out now ;D my dad had a brand new, povertly spec, G plate 405 diesel estate as his company car for two years.. my impressions of it are that it was cheap, noisy, slow, light metallic blue, and very squishy in a crash
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May 28, 2008 16:49:34 GMT
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Fab cars, a number of my mates have had them & we've nicked named them 'Goats'..... Peu goat... gettit ;D (only 405s are goats though) They are stylish & handle sweetly - & as said before if you get a late high spec TD, they have good performance & are comfortable. My mate used to commute to work in his once a week..... a cummute from Warwickshire to Cologne in Germany ;D Edit; note the comedy spoiler you get on the exec' saloons (like the one in Cov motor museum) That are angle for lift rather that downforce
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Last Edit: May 28, 2008 16:51:44 GMT by DerbyDan
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May 28, 2008 16:55:32 GMT
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I've got two 405 TD's - one saloon, one estate. In fact I liked the saloon so much I bought it back from someone on here I sold it to, as soon as I saw it advertised Petrol models are really very, very cheap, and can take mileage - I purloined some panels off an M-plate 1.8 saloon in a breakers with 260k on the clock - no fading (bright red) or stonechips, the interior was also mint and it hadn't come in with a broken engine! But I don't know much about them as I've only ever owned 1.9TDs. Previous posters have had some right bargains, but prices on eViLbAy are bouyant, especially for estates, because they are sooo commodious and useful, plus there's the veg oil compability working in their favour. I bought a 250k multicoloured GLDT estate from jamesp on here for £250 with a year's ticket and 6 months' rent, only selling it on because I was able to buy a "Hunter" special edition with all the history from new for £375. Basically, £500 should get you a great one with a long ticket, low number of owners and proof of recent cambelt change. Things to watch for - get a post '92 (L-reg or later to be safe) "Phase 2" car to avoid most of the electrical and "trim dropping off" hassles. I've never had anything fail on either of mine. Best way to tell is the heater controls - if they are sliders it's a Phase 2, rotary knobs on a Phase 1. Phase 1 TD's were only ever 1769cc too, not that it makes a difference. Rust around the rear shock mounts and behind the shocks in the front wheelarch, where the chassis leg kicks up - both of mine have had small holes welded up in the latter area here. Check also the rear floor (ensure the spare wheel is still in it's cage at the same time!) and the inner wings behind the headlights too. 405's just don't rust on the upper panels so it's easy to assume the underneath is immune as well. Just remember that despite appearances you're dealing with a car that will be at least 11 years old and have a few miles behind it. Make sure the gearchange isn't baulky (linkages) and the clutch isn't heavy (cable). Also - the TD engine is a belter, but it does have a reputation for headgaskets. They can last forever if the coolant is changed every 2 years, so look for evidence of this. Make sure the heater puts out heat, and if the temp gauge ever goes above 90 (even on prolonged full boost) there could be problems. The engine will be noisy on cold start but settle down when warm. If it makes grinding noises then the aux belt (and/or tensioner) could be stuffed. If it runs rough for a few seconds when it starts from cold, it's glowplugs - my money on number 4, in an inaccessible spot behind the fuel pump. Also, starters sometimes play up - it will click but won't catch. They always go eventually though - my saloon has been like this for ages! Aircon I believe uses the older gas (at least my 93L Hunter does) and if it still works it's a real bonus. Just open a window if it doesn't. Most have either a/c and no sunroof, or an electric roof with no a/c. There should be no rust around the sunroof at all if it's the latter. Boost should come in between 2000 and 4000rpm, nice and smooth, with a little turbo whistle and some (only some!) soot visible in the nearside mirror at the upper end. If it feels really flat between these revs, there's issues there. Check the PAS isn't noisy, and look at the nearside steering gaiter - cheap part to replace, but the whole rack has to come out to do it! Final check is that the rear wheels should be upright - if they slope in at the top, that's rear radius arm bearing failure, which is £££. If you can find a decent, well-looked-after TD estate which hasn't been used as a builder's hack, you've got the only car you'll ever need. Seriously! The saloon is better looking and slightly better-handling, but the rear seats don't fold. I drive my saloon every day, having done 12k miles since last November, and it's the best £50 car I've had! The estates have bigger loadspaces than the later 406 wagons too...
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Last Edit: May 28, 2008 17:15:52 GMT by rwelfare
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May 28, 2008 21:53:03 GMT
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Wow Cheers rwelfare! It was a saloon I was really after. Not as keen on the estates. I'd noticed the prices on eBay were quite strong.
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May 28, 2008 22:06:56 GMT
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Here's a pic I took in Cov Transport Museum: ^1.9 SRI I believe. That takes me back....thats exactly the same as one I had about 12 years ago. Mine was a great drive, but it was throughly curse word in the 2 years I had it, everything broke (Head, ECU, Gearbox, clutch etc). Burnt itself out in the end.
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May 28, 2008 22:34:03 GMT
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it's a great series of films if you like peugeots in odd bodykits.. plus while googling for that image i've come across some sites saying that there's a 4th Taxi film coming out / out now ;D my dad had a brand new, povertly spec, G plate 405 diesel estate as his company car for two years.. my impressions of it are that it was cheap, noisy, slow, light metallic blue, and very squishy in a crash 4th taxi film T4XI aint great tbh. Good film in the same vein of the originals but less car stuff sadly. The TAXI films ROCK though.
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Darrel
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405's are great cars. My 406 isnt very well (Its gone round the clock twice) so ive replaced it with a Saab 9000, but I can honestly see mself changing it by the end of the summer for a late 405 (the last ones the seats folded in the saloon model). The 406 is better in pretty much every way, but the general concensus on the 406 owners clubs is that the 405 is more of a drivers car giving a better driving experiance. The mk1's are starting to get a bit of a following now too. I prefer the look of the dash on a mk1, but they are more noisy and creak when driving. The mk2 is a bit of a nicer place to be imo. Oh and don't know if it worries you but insurance isnt that great either.
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Last Edit: May 29, 2008 1:55:20 GMT by Darrel
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SteveP
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You sure about that? We had a 1996 N reg GLX and the seats certainly didn't fold in that! A big downside tbh, but the boot is a very generous size anyway!
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Peugeot 405'smilfordcubicle
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The 406 is a bit on the heavy side. I have a 1996 (lack of) Style TD estate and it's superb apart from the boggo spec and dull 'Evergreen' colour it's painted in. One day I managed a miraculous 56MPG, but it seems to be lingering around 45-50MPG at the moment which is fine for a fairly big, comfy estate car. I would like an earlier GLX or GTX estate with the Bosch injector pump as a 'car for life'. Unfortunately mine has a Lucas pump.
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Here's one of the previous 405 threads clickety clickThe mk1's are starting to get a bit of a following now too. I prefer the look of the dash on a mk1, but they are more noisy and creak when driving. The mk2 is a bit of a nicer place to be imo. Mk1 interior is more in keeping with the exterior design - eg the grooves on the interior door cappings echo some of the exterior detailing etc Not a fan of the look of the mk2 interior though - btw does it still have the cover for the stereo that the Mk1 had?
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Yeah it does. Great for keeping criminal's eyes away from your failing, worthless radio cassette...
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May 29, 2008 11:25:37 GMT
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Wow Cheers rwelfare! It was a saloon I was really after. Not as keen on the estates. I'd noticed the prices on eBay were quite strong. If you want a saloon, the picks would be an Executive with heated leather seats and all the fruit, or - and if you can find one, as they only made them on a K or L plate - the SRDT, which is basically a TD SRI. Or you could limit the chance of electrical malady with a basic Style TD or summat. A saloon should only make >£500 if it's exceptional... I've never heard of folding rear seats on a 405 saloon though. They do on the 406...but the 406 1.9TD is not as economical/accelerative/fun as the 405. Not by a long, long way. There is a "ski flap" on the 405. The boot is big enough to hold 4 14" wheels and tyres as it is...
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Last Edit: May 29, 2008 11:27:21 GMT by rwelfare
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Padz
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May 29, 2008 11:39:27 GMT
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and the first rule of 90's Peugeots, you will somewhere in the car have a squeaking noise.
It's character ;D
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"I'd rather lie in a bath of my own excrement than own a Vectra " - 2002gimp 25/1/07 "Anal Alert would be an absolutely superb name for piles cream " - Hirst 28/1/08 1991 - Peugeot 205 GTI 1996 - Rover Mini Cooper
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simes
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May 29, 2008 14:35:17 GMT
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Gutmann made a hot 405Mi16 estate back in the day. I saw one around 1991 in France and thought it looked very nice. Gold - lowered, subtle body kit with gold BBS? rims. I'm sure I have a photo of it somewhere which I'll try to dig out - however this will have to do Otherwise the 405TD's are a very capable car.
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Simes
205Mi16 - 262 cams, Jenvey Throttle Bodies, Emerald managment blah blah...... E91 320D MSport Honda NC30 Vespa 300GTS
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Peugeot 405'sbriandamaged
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May 29, 2008 14:43:04 GMT
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and the first rule of 90's Peugeots, you will somewhere in the car have a squeaking noise. It's character ;D Or, as in my 205, a cacophony of them!! ;D
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Padz
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May 29, 2008 15:49:50 GMT
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and the first rule of 90's Peugeots, you will somewhere in the car have a squeaking noise. It's character ;D Or, as in my 205, a cacophony of them!! ;D SNAP!, at least yours runs!
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"I'd rather lie in a bath of my own excrement than own a Vectra " - 2002gimp 25/1/07 "Anal Alert would be an absolutely superb name for piles cream " - Hirst 28/1/08 1991 - Peugeot 205 GTI 1996 - Rover Mini Cooper
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May 29, 2008 18:11:56 GMT
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I've had 3 A 1.6 GR an SRi and an Mi16,the first 1 was curse word the 2nd brilliant and the 3rd fast as fook! but had dodgy ABS.I would have another but it would have to be a diesel Phase 1,as i prefer the dash in them.
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