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Aug 22, 2007 17:50:16 GMT
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Hey Skippy - you're right it does need to lose a bit of weight.
In medium carbon steel it's 1.17kg
With the pocket design I could trim 150-200g off it.
Tried it in Aluminum and got it down to 400g
When you get back into work next week, can you run them through the proper FEA software - you must be a guru on it now.
Hi Delmastiff - had a crawl round your car at RR (I was the fella on his hands and knees trying to look at your sump/steering solution).
Very nice car mate - nothing curse word about it!
Your 'front' sump idea was something I considered.
Just looked like a lot more welding (and leaks) than my tube idea.
Also how have the exhaust manifolds be run on yours?
Custom jobs I guess -I'd like to see a pic of how you've done it though.
And cheers to the rest of you for the nice comments!
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Aug 22, 2007 23:18:18 GMT
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They sell those roll centre adjusters here you know.....prolly wouldn't fit yours though. Have you reverted back to the recirc ball steering now then? |
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Aug 22, 2007 23:38:47 GMT
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Or you could do this to your lower arms?  Adjustable rose jointed |
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Hi HKP
Yep sure have.
I need to play about the the geometry of the R+P setup alot more, but I also need to get the car on the road sometime before I die.
So I've back burnered that for a winter project.
The original steering is OK anyway.
It all been rebuilt now, with all the linkages and track rod end brand new.
AE86 RCA's do fit Celica struts and steering arms
On my setup I'm using Celica steering arms and the Supra strut.
Unfortunately the mounting hole pitches are different.
Already tried this! Problem is to correct the inclincation angle on the Supra struts you need to move it out by 35mm (more if you're not using adj camber tops)
This additional 35mm then puts the mounting for the ARB and track control arm out by 35mm as well !
Thanks for your ideas anyway HKP
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Holy Bat Crapman..! This thing is.. like.. too much. I admire your skills to the n'th - but even more your perseverance. Big ups Dude - my own efforts are truly humbled. I trust you will continue to overcome all obstacles in the way of your vision. Its worth it in the end - and we all know you won't stop until you're happy with the end result - so its inevitable really..  Lovin the pics - keep em comin. Chiz, Kilroy |
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Aug 23, 2007 11:55:06 GMT
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Thanks for your ideas anyway HKP Hey,i should really have known you'd have covered all avenues! I must say,i don't have any issues with the recirc ball steering on mine,it does the job ok. I just can't get over how amazing that sump is!  |
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It's been a couple of months since I've updated. Took me a while to find this post as it had dropped off to page 19, It's mad how quick things move on here. ;D So what's been happening? Lots of boring stuff...like needing to move the ignition coil over to the other side of the engine bay which turned into me completely rewiring the car  etc etc Anyway heres some pics of interesting things I've been doing. Finally got my re-chromed bumpers out from behind the sofa.....    And made a new grille....   The interior is finally fitted. It's been finished for ages, but I couldn't button it all down until a few other jobs had be sorted.  Idea - design - product...  ....yep my camber adjustment plates.... Nice bit of machining (with a +/- 0.025 tolerance on the fit features), 8062-T6 aluminium with a 30uM hard black anodised finish. Shame only me and the MOT inspector will ever see them.  Nailed together with M12 x 60 x 1.25 cap head bolts 12.9 grade. Gaffer tape on edge, 'cause I keep scratching it !   So now I can fit my Supra MA61 struts....   ...and dial in lots of negative camber ;D  This mod' has affected the scrub radius a little (+ve), but not as much as I thought, as the wheel offset and increased camber, have negated much of it. The integrated geometric puzzle that is front suspension, has finally worked in my favour I don't think I've ever been at a point that I might actually see light at the end of my very, very long tunnel..... ;D |
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Last Edit: Jan 31, 2020 9:57:02 GMT by celicaV8
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Amazing !!!
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Skillllllllllllllllllz!
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Top grammar tips!
Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated
Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Oooffff, still my fave RR car i think!  but why do you need that camber? Or does it just allow you to use the Supra struts?  clever work anyways |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Love it Do you think the camber plates will increase bump steer much though? |
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Cheers all ! Don't need anywhere near that amount of negative camber. Just showing off how adjustable it is now. Here's some Supra struts on a Mk1 Celica (same suspension as mine) :  Lots of positive camber. Even with adjustable camber tops it's to much to dial out. The solution is to increase the lower arm length. I played about with this, but it was a real headache. As it's lowered you really need to fit roll centre adaptors to correct for bump steer anyway.....:  RCA's on a AE86 Corolla:  .....so I just kind of 'extended' the lower arm via the RCA's, if that makes sense  The hole pitch for the Supra strut is different to the Celica steering arm, so it corrects this problem as well. Probably not the best explanation, but it works |
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Last Edit: Jan 31, 2020 10:02:17 GMT by celicaV8
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Thanks. fanastic art work, not only you and your MOT man to see your clever widgets. We appreciate it too. |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Nice job, love the engineering drawings, your job?
Excellent project, 7 years is nothing, started mine in 1991!!!!!! (life got in the way!)
What are the rear drums painted with?
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Nice work V8, it looks like the wait and head scratching was worth it I still love your car, it makes me dribble.......... |
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o jesus christ, its 3:30 in the moring and I'm normally asleep but your car is soo OOOFFFFF worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HOLY COW! Lost for words...... I'm humbled on this site, some of the work and engineering/design abilities leave me feeling like a total feckwit!  This really is a work of art....... ;D Best of luck with the grand finale John |
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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Thanks all for the encouraging feedback It's been a longtime coming, but I think I can see light at the end of the tunnel.... The support and feedback I've had from RR folks over the last 2 years helps a lot with motivation. Sorry just noticed your questions BlackPop... Yep I'm a design engineer (covering mech and electrical) in the Semiconductor Industry. So spend a fair bit of time on CAD. Rear drums are in POR15 - not sure what's it temp' rating is, but welding brackets etc on parts already painted in POR15 didn't touch it, so should be able to cope with the heat on the rear brakes. |
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Dec 28, 2007 20:21:10 GMT
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A quick update..fairly boring stuff though. I've been waiting on some helper springs to arrive before I could refit the front struts.  I ordered the longest ones I could find (4") and duly fitted them. It soon became apparent that even the 4" helpers couldn't keep the 6" 350 rate springs captive with standard stroke shocks  ...take it all apart again and start work on plan B. After a bit of research, I ended up with a new pair of KYB AGX 4 way adjustable inserts, designed for the REAR of a Toyota MR2. They are about 40mm shorter, but everything else is compatible with the original (right of pic) insert.  You need to make up that 'lost' 40mm somewhere, so I turned some Nylon spacers to suit :   So here they are bolted back together:  4"/4lb helper spring:  ..keeping everything nice and captive:    Cool 4 way adjustment knob:  On setting 1 they are still slightly firmer than the standard insert. On click 4, they are uber stiff. A few other things worth a mention..... Now the struts and brakes are all bolted in and torqued down, the wheel/caliper clearance was a bit tight so I dropped on a spacer. Not a great fan of spacers but it's only 3mm and the wheel is still hub-centric on its spigot by at least 7mm - so nothing to worry about.  The spacer has in effect shortened the wheel studs by 3mm - and they are right on the edge of what I'm happy with for thread engagement. Longer studs ordered..but the only ones I could get were much longer than I needed. Shortening and finishing 16 studs by hand is mind-numbing. Left to right - Standard, modified, long.  |
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Last Edit: Jan 31, 2020 10:23:49 GMT by celicaV8
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etc etc
but why do you need that camber? Or does it just allow you to use the Supra struts? 
clever work anyways 
