Andrew
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Jan 24, 2005 14:27:21 GMT
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Jan 24, 2005 14:52:48 GMT
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I don't know about worst but I just don't like these  There just so camp ducky.  |
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Jan 24, 2005 15:02:28 GMT
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whats the point of that lmfao a 307 why?  206 were much better |
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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worse rallycar ever???DarrenW
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Jan 24, 2005 15:04:47 GMT
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Not sure if they were the worst, but these must rank amongst the most disappointing:  |
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Andrew
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Jan 24, 2005 15:05:46 GMT
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the 206 was unstable at high speed because of the length of it, and the fact that everything was so close it was hard to change gear boxes and diffs. the 307 is much bigger and is built for rallying with an easy change box and a better all round car
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Andrew
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Jan 24, 2005 15:06:50 GMT
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Not sure if they were the worst, but these must rank amongst the most disappointing: lol, here the evo   |
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Shortcut
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Jan 24, 2005 15:18:22 GMT
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rallying=marketing. But imho the average 307cc driver isn't a big rally fan while 206 drivers probably are.
BX 4TC rare. When group B folded Citroen went round, bought all the ones they'd sold back (who's owners would sell them) and cubed them. Why?
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Andrew
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Jan 24, 2005 15:33:15 GMT
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some of the running gear was evolved into the dakar rally car
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Jan 24, 2005 15:37:00 GMT
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BigWig
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Jan 24, 2005 18:53:38 GMT
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The Works Escort Rally Programme 1983
In 1980, following the launch of the MKIII Escort, Ford plans were started to produce a rear wheel drive Escort to replace the MK II Works rally cars, the RS1700T, with a full programme expected in 1983. As all Ford rally enthusiasts will know, the development was hindered by all kinds of problems, and ultimately the project in the UK was cancelled.
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Andrew
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Jan 24, 2005 19:04:37 GMT
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it was only canceled though coz when it started out ford thought that 4wd in rallying would never take off..but they were wrong and it did, so they stopped that program and went on to build a group b car group 4/early group b rs1700t  group b rs200  |
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Jan 24, 2005 19:18:16 GMT
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Was the BX4TC based on the same chassis as the 205 T16 then? Because I believe the T16 was lengthened to make the 405 Paris Dakar car which got the Citreon shell later on? Or is all that rubbish?
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BigWig
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Jan 24, 2005 19:24:57 GMT
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that bx looks mad, id love that
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Andrew
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Jan 24, 2005 20:44:57 GMT
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Was the BX4TC based on the same chassis as the 205 T16 then? Because I believe the T16 was lengthened to make the 405 Paris Dakar car which got the Citreon shell later on? Or is all that rubbish? not sure on that accually   |
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Jan 24, 2005 21:55:02 GMT
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I think there are a few shared parts as you would expect from sister companies but I think the BX was a far more sophisticated car. The T16 4WDsystem is actually quite basic. It's sort of one generation on from the T16 and half a generation before the Paris Dakar cars. (mod) from koti.mbnet.fi/css/bx/4tc.htmlThe BX 4TC Evo was Citroën's weapon for the B-group World Rally Championship. The 4TC Evolution was classified with a 4TC (a series of 200 cars). The car was officially launched by Citroen in November 1985 ment for he World Rally Championship season 1986. The 4TC was far from similar to normal BX's, and the 4TC Evolution was far from similar to the 4TC street version. The last Evo version had a number of radiators in the back and a different turbo (KKK). The first Evolution version had 6 round headlights and this version was only tested before the final version was created. Both types (evo and street version) had the hydropneumatic suspension. Transmission was borrowed from the SM and brakes from the CX. The nose of the 4TC was a lot longer then the normal BX because a 4 cylinder 2 litre engine had to be rotated by 90 degrees compared with the normal BX-engine. The 4TC was a fast and very luxurious car. The interior (for 5 passengers) was similar to the yet to be launched BX Sport, including the steering wheel. On the dashboard a few additional gauges (for example engine temperature indicator) were added. Bonnet, tailgate and all the wings are plastic in both versions. 4TC's have six head lights and 210/55 VR 390 tyres on 150 TR 380 FH alloy wheels. The last Evo versions had only 2 small headlights to permit as much cooling area as possible in front of the car. |
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Jan 24, 2005 22:12:10 GMT
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My vote  |
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rallying=marketing. But imho the average 307cc driver isn't a big rally fan while 206 drivers probably are. That's a bit of a broad sweeping generalisation - if anything I would say that the 206 is driven by a younger person, generally of the hairdressing or "beauty therepy" persuation - I didn't take them for big rally fans lol |
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that BX 4TC is god damn ugly! i usually appreciate 'odd' cars but it just looks wrong. not sure if it's the elongated front, or the fact it's a 4-door or what but it just doesn't 'click'.
what kind of spec is it anyway - is it full group B RS200-style fast as it doesn't even look that quick.
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Shortcut
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380BHP. 0-60 5.5 secs 280kmh top whack.
Extra added uglyness!
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Andrew
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yeah but they only turn'd up to one world rally round, in greece. both cars broke down and they went home, and were never seen since  |
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