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Nov 17, 2023 17:19:54 GMT
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My Humber has been ongoing now for far too long and seems to have fought me all the way. A few days ago I finally had it started and got the cam broke in. Apart from an oil leak (back of the intake) all was good. Manifold off, new gaskets and all good. Start it the next day and quite quickly it starts to knock. I mean really knock like a rod has puked the bearing. I switched it off and walked away. I'm not sure I can face pulling the engine and stripping/checking/rebuilding it again. I'm nearly 70 and it gets harder every time. I'm about done with it and very close to just putting it up for sale at a price I know will get it gone. I also know that regret will follow on shortly after. I was so close but now it feels like a long haul again. This feels like self flagellation now.
Sorry for the downer post, just needed to vent.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Nov 17, 2023 18:37:49 GMT
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I feel your pain. I was a truck mechanic for 30 yrs, now run my own motorcycle business. I’m a decade younger than you, but literally lost my mojo about 10 yrs ago. Other than little half hour jobs I just cannot be arsed with any of it. I still like ‘the scene’ but hate the ‘in depth’ work. I just pay a good mate (who I used to work with & owns a garage) to do all my stuff now & just enjoy driving & owning the car(s)
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brachunky
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Totally fed upbrachunky
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Nov 17, 2023 19:18:30 GMT
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Venting is okay. Same age as Rattlecan and agree, it can get to be a proper chore instead of pleasure especially when the body is moaning. Don't be tempted to walk away only for the next bloke to be grinning from ear to ear with his "bargain". You have come this far so take a huge breath & slowly try again. It will be worth it.
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vulgalour
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Totally fed upvulgalour
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Nov 17, 2023 20:17:37 GMT
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Doesn't help it being the time of year it is either, that just makes stuff like this feel so much worse. Hopefully the knock ends up being one of those daft things we all do like a spanner has fallen down between something unseen and is banging about when the engine is running. Fingers crossed for you at any rate.
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stealthstylz
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Totally fed upstealthstylz
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Nov 17, 2023 21:07:59 GMT
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I know feeling, bloomin horrible when anything like that happens.
Before you pull the motor have you checked if a Flexplate/Torque Converter bolt has come loose?
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Nov 17, 2023 21:50:05 GMT
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I know feeling, bloomin horrible when anything like that happens. Before you pull the motor have you checked if a Flexplate/Torque Converter bolt has come loose? Thanks for the replies guys. I shall be checking those stealthstylz but it did sound very bottom end like. I can hope though.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Nov 18, 2023 10:00:35 GMT
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Also at the magic 70 and sometimes the jobs can be a bit daunting so stagger any work leaving something to look forward to the following week / as you get older mechanical work often gets challenging and what was a job after work laying on cardboard in the dark with a lead light for light and bit of heat changes with age and outlook not to mention aches pains and bruises take longer to heal. Still enjoy the car scene as stated by another member but the actual doing is sometimes a young mans sport but cars have kept me sane for 50 years and for that I'm grateful and will never give up just go at a slower pace than before.
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Started out with nothing and have most of it left.
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Nov 18, 2023 10:37:46 GMT
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I've found that taking a break for a couple of weeks, watching some car shows on YouTube, and reading other peoples' projects on here generally gives me a bit of mojo back. It may not work for everyone, but it does for me. If it's any consolation crockpot I love reading your rebuild threads, even if I don't comment on them much. Take a step back for a bit, and do something else. The need to tinker should return. 
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Nov 18, 2023 11:38:20 GMT
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Sorry to hear about the trouble its giving you crockpot . This may be a situation where getting the oil analyzed would make sense. I've heard its not that expensive to get done, and it would give you an idea of what's going on. Also, if it has a spin on oilfilter, I'd cut that open to see what's inside ( what particles it has filtered out). Good luck man...
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Nov 18, 2023 11:54:44 GMT
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Also, if you broke in the cam, you'll have new lifters.
I hear people are having a lot of problems with those lately ( Aftermarket V8 Hydraulic. Quality has become a problem).
I'd pull the valvecovers and turn it over by hand to check everything.
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Nov 18, 2023 12:27:43 GMT
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Another vote for trying to outsource the work now. I'm getting too old, tired, busy, to do proper car work. Its frustrating, I just had a week off and planned to get back into the garage and onto the Galaxie in there but yanno what, I didn't even get to tidying up the garage which is necessary before I can do that. Mojo is harder to come by. And time and effort.
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 18, 2023 14:35:01 GMT
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Thanks for all the good advice guys, appreciated. quasimoto very true, my body will not take the abuse it used to. Some arthritis doesn't help but most days I can ignore it. We both had COVID five weeks ago and I haven't really got over it. An hours work sees me needing a rest as I'm exhausted. Takes time for some. mrbounce thank you for the kind words of appreciation for my meanderings on here. I don't update as often as I should. metalshapes the oil looks good (no glitter) and was changed after break in. The lifters were Johnsons, apparently the last of ones you can rely on. I have had the valve covers off and turned the engine over to check, all looks good at thetop end @akku I try not to outsource. I'm (we) am retired and as such on a fixed (ish) income(s). We are not hard up but spending large amounts on such things can give rise to questions from senior management! I also (generally) enjoy doing stuff myself, at my age I figure that if I stop... I'm sure I will get past this although it may hurt a bit one way or another.
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Last Edit: Nov 18, 2023 14:38:02 GMT by crockpot
Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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stealthstylz
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Totally fed upstealthstylz
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Nov 18, 2023 16:09:09 GMT
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An hours work sees me needing a rest as I'm exhausted. Takes time for some. I'm 37, got Covid about 6 weeks ago and it took me a solid month for it to get better. Had a week of really bad all the symptoms, seemed to clear up then for some reason I'd get each individual symptom for a couple of hours at random times for the next month. I've at most had a fairly dull headache in my life upto that point, but had proper head explosion curled up in a ball in the dark ones. Luckily they seem to have gone now. Once you've checked anything obvious, if the motor needs to be pulled would it be beneficial to write a step by step plan so you can do it in half hour stints?
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Nov 18, 2023 21:17:38 GMT
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I'm 57. Got covid last year. Wasn't really sick with it (wfh right through) but did take a long time to recover from the lingering lethargy. I also have far too many projects, automotive and otherwise, that I haven't really looked at in years. If anyone has a magic solution to the lost mojo problem please share it with the group.
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qwerty
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Totally fed upqwerty
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Nov 18, 2023 21:26:40 GMT
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Take a break, do some other things you love, come back to it when you have the desire. I've been in the same position with cars, walking away and then coming back worked wonders for me.
Tom
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vulgalour
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Totally fed upvulgalour
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Nov 18, 2023 22:08:00 GMT
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If anyone has a magic solution to the lost mojo problem please share it with the group. Decide what projects you want to get done and make yourself do those. Ignore the rest. It's really hard to do if you're a project-hoarder and feels utterly hateful when you start. Persist, as things start to be completed and you can see a path through the mojo does return, just takes a while. Do *something* once a week, even if it's putting a single socket away in its proper place, and eventually you'll get back on track again. Whatever you do, don't take on a fresh project to kickstart the mojo because you'll lose impetus with it and then feel you've got even more things to complete.
Your mileage may vary of course. We can be our own worst enemies at times and that frustration at lack of progress, the lack of mojo, is more often than not simply because we've taken too much on for our personal resources be that time, money, energy, or patience.
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Nov 18, 2023 23:04:39 GMT
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Thanks guys.
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ChasR
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Totally fed upChasR
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Without making this a thread about something, I'll chip in with my 2p. I've had Covid a few times now. The first time, I: -Couldn't remember everything I did, or rather, how I remembered things previously (i.e an almost picture like/recording of a memory) -Was just shattered From having a clear memory, which remembered everything, anything to remember became a real struggle. A few folks even noticed I spoke different, mainly as I used contexts to try and remember things. It was scary not remembering conversations from literally an hour go, that I'd spent 30 mins having. I suppose me needing to take breaths like Jeremy Clarkson did, with his smoking habit, due to a lack of breath, also helped in this not being too obvious to most, as I didn't really speak about this until months after; I also knew my mum if she found out via friends or family would be very concerned, as would my sister, who is a doctor) . Considering I chair a number of meetings at work, this became a nightmare. To make matters worse, I was simply shattered after work. Doing any sort of work on the car, bikes or house was a real struggle. Work would basically shatter me, and have me in bed for a couple of hours most days straight after work. I would basically only do bits of work on the cars if I had to (i.e pass an MOT, service it etc.). I frankly hated working on cars for a bit. Paying something for me isn't an option either, like yourself. The expenditure simply isn't there. I earn a decent wage, but the house bills etc. will wipe out over almost half of my income (FWIW, my house isn't massive or pricey or anything either), meaning the costs of outsourcing will soon build up. I do feel for others at the moment, who aren't so lucky with rates etc. as that must be a little hand-to-mouth I imagine! That said, while work over the last month has gone into overdrive, the mojo etc. has come back. I'm reasonable now. Memory is back to a reasonable state, and the lethargy has almost gone, even when it is cold. But I do have an age advantage which I admit is possibly an unfair advantage. A few friends of mine are about a decade behind you, and it's interesting hearing them struggle, but also how they manage to do it as well. There's no magic means of getting your mojo back but there are things that can be done to make it less of a chore. Take a break, do some other things you love, come back to it when you have the desire. I've been in the same position with cars, walking away and then coming back worked wonders for me. Tom This is some great advice. It can seem like a lifetime of waiting at times, but even a week away from the car can help, if you don't need to drive it. The mojo for my M3 was low for a couple of years TBH. It's now back. A few things helped: -Chatting to mates about their projects as well as mine. It still fascinates me, how conversing with something about an issue can help you to fix a problem, whether it's you talking about it or them, even if the other party never suggested anything obvious on how you fix the car. I suppose this is where forums can be semi-valuable as well. Yes, it's not quite the same as bouncing off ideas as someone in person, but it's still pretty damn good at assisting. -Doing the smallest of jobs on it. Even something small is one less thing to do later. A bit of trim to do? Do it? Clean the engine bay, so it's not the same grubby, slippy mess to work on? Clean it. Inflate the tyres, so when you have to move it, it can be easier to move? Inflate them. Just chiselling away at jobs can make the world of difference when it matters. As an old boss said, many crumbs make a cake. -Having decent kit to do the job. Not everyone has the chance to get decent gear over the years, albeit I do save a bit of a 'slush' funds, so as to rigorously to improve the parts inventory. Since I work on the cars myself, I justify it that way, especially now that rates have really climbed up for folks paying to have work done on their cars. Things like my impact ratchet and rattle gun have helped massively, and made routine tasks far less of a struggle ; I can name about 3 jobs I did on my E91 over the last two years which made the rattle gun pay for itself. The Snow-Foam lance I have for my pressure washer recently, has massively helped in keeping the arches etc. cleaner, so it's not just a dirty mess to work on a car when I have to. It's odd having cars with clean engine bays now, but it does help signficantly. -Having good help at hand. I've had friends help out and have picked up things from them. It's helped me improve my techniques, and become a better 'mechanic'. Am I some sort of master? No chance, but I'm alot better than what I was, which helps with speeding things up. -The YouTube content out there really helps. Whether it's a how-to video from a known person, or just seeing someone run through a car, to get it back to its former glory. It's curse word when you get into a rut, and there does not seem to be a way out of it. But keep the faith, and hopefully one day, the mojo will re-appear, and then flourish.
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Nov 20, 2023 16:31:51 GMT
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Bit of an update. I summoned up some enthusiasm and started to check the obvious stupid stuff, converter bolts etc. I found nothing untoward. Cranking the engine over there is definitely a noise every rotation. A screwdriver on the block and to my ear confirmed my suspicions that it's an internal issue. I'm going to write out a strip down plan and do a bit each day. It's the headers that will make me a wreck, they are a nightmare to fit. In the meantime I am getting on with wifey's Pop as it's fairly easy at the moment.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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I find breaking it down into tasks and having a plan makes it easier, I once rebuilt an RV8 3 times for knocking noise on the LH no2 cylinder (found by removing plug lead) only to give up and find when fiting a new short engine that the engine mount bol adjacent to the same cylinder was loose....
Once it's all working the frustration is forgotten though.
Can you get the sump off in situ? if you can it may be something you can fix without the need to remove the engine.
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