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1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...

akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 17, 2023 16:47:58 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Further updates from the land of Dez. I have been travelling for work a bit so not updating the thread. Transmission tunnel needed work, and the odd transit shifter position makes it "characterful" The pedal box needed work as the clutch was pendulum and the brake was organ. This means relocation of the brake master cylinder but the stock one was done for anyway. A Ford Cortina was the donor, adapted with a little Dez magic Luckily it seems the silver paint applied to the original grill shell is comign off and the original chrome is OK underneath Wiring has also been attended to, such as there is in this car, and safened with the inclusion of an actual fuse box.
	Last Edit: Sept 17, 2023 16:51:15 GMT by akku 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 17, 2023 16:57:15 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	With the recent "small amount of rain" we have had, Dez observed that the opening windscreen was letting in a lot of water. Far from ideal. So he's had it out, dealt with the seal, made up new pivots, cleaned up the mess and even applied a very un-stringer shiny paint job to the area There is primer as well, just before anyone asks... Work also needed doing on the exhaust. We now have 100% less baked bean can in the system. Dez has also tucked it up under the car so it allows better clearance, and maybe if the car gets lowered at some point.... Proper flexi Bought a noisy box Bought a heater as it doesn't have one...
	Last Edit: Sept 17, 2023 16:58:09 GMT by akku 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 17, 2023 17:01:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 4, 2023 22:27:34 GMT Dez said: homersimpson there’s more than one similar vehicle about. I met a guy road testing a jag engined Brit saloon done back in the day when I lived near Ipswich. I think it was a MO morris Oxford though. Essentially the same car with a considerably less ugly front end. That thing is massively overpriced in its current state. Part of the appeal of cars like this at the moment is the market is falling as people who take them seriously are dying off. Shabby ones are becoming good cheap fun, there’s loads of stuff around sub 5k. The 6/80 was based of the Morris Isis not the Oxford. Both are pretty rare these days. Its the MO back end but on a much longer wheelbase to accomodate the six cylinder engine, I think a predecessor to the C series. I suspect that price was an opener for negotiation as its sold now and £10K was certainly not a viable price. No idea what the XK engine and Moss box in it were worth on their own though?
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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crockpot Posted a lot Posts: 1,537	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...crockpot @crockpot
	Sept 18, 2023 5:01:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 17, 2023 17:01:07 GMT akku said: Sept 4, 2023 22:27:34 GMT Dez said: homersimpson there’s more than one similar vehicle about. I met a guy road testing a jag engined Brit saloon done back in the day when I lived near Ipswich. I think it was a MO morris Oxford though. Essentially the same car with a considerably less ugly front end. That thing is massively overpriced in its current state. Part of the appeal of cars like this at the moment is the market is falling as people who take them seriously are dying off. Shabby ones are becoming good cheap fun, there’s loads of stuff around sub 5k. The 6/80 was based of the Morris Isis not the Oxford. Both are pretty rare these days. Its the MO back end but on a much longer wheelbase to accomodate the six cylinder engine, I think a predecessor to the C series. I suspect that price was an opener for negotiation as its sold now and £10K was certainly not a viable price. No idea what the XK engine and Moss box in it were worth on their own though? The 6/80 was based on the Morris Six although strictly speaking they were both (Six and 6/80) based on the MO. The MO front was stretched 6" to accommodate the straight six and the first Six's on the road broke the chassis rails due to the weight and leverage. This was cured with large gussets in the engine bay. There are about 20 Sixs left on the road including my old one which was 460 Ford powered and around 500 horse (not a lot of Six structure left).
	Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).

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horrido Posted a lot Posts: 1,065	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...horrido @horrido
	Sept 18, 2023 11:26:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Funny that they also did a shorter stretch on the Wolseley 4/50. Also longer than the MO as far as I can tell.


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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 18, 2023 12:57:43 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 18, 2023 5:01:14 GMT crockpot said: Sept 17, 2023 17:01:07 GMT akku said: The 6/80 was based of the Morris Isis not the Oxford. Both are pretty rare these days. Its the MO back end but on a much longer wheelbase to accomodate the six cylinder engine, I think a predecessor to the C series. I suspect that price was an opener for negotiation as its sold now and £10K was certainly not a viable price. No idea what the XK engine and Moss box in it were worth on their own though? The 6/80 was based on the Morris Six although strictly speaking they were both (Six and 6/80) based on the MO. The MO front was stretched 6" to accommodate the straight six and the first Six's on the road broke the chassis rails due to the weight and leverage. This was cured with large gussets in the engine bay. There are about 20 Sixs left on the road including my old one which was 460 Ford powered and around 500 horse (not a lot of Six structure left). Ah yes, it became the Isis on the Series II platform!
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 18, 2023 12:58:49 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 18, 2023 11:26:41 GMT horrido said: Funny that they also did a shorter stretch on the Wolseley 4/50. Also longer than the MO as far as I can tell. Really? I never knew that, I thought it was just the front end sheetmetal making the 4/50 look more bulbous than the Oxford. I've never seen two side by side to compare
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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horrido Posted a lot Posts: 1,065	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...horrido @horrido
	Sept 18, 2023 15:21:18 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	6/80 4/50 MO


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crockpot Posted a lot Posts: 1,537	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...crockpot @crockpot
	Sept 18, 2023 15:32:30 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Different bonnet and grill. That was the only sheet metal difference. One of my Six doors came from a MO.
	Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 18, 2023 16:03:58 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	horrido - thanks for that, very illustrative. I think the 4/50 probably has the best proportions of those three.
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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horrido Posted a lot Posts: 1,065	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...horrido @horrido
	Sept 18, 2023 20:17:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Sept 18, 2023 15:32:30 GMT crockpot said: Different bonnet and grill. That was the only sheet metal difference. One of my Six doors came from a MO. Look at the length of the front wing, between the wheel arch and the door.


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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 21, 2023 9:30:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Progress... pedals hung already, but need to connect to brakes as well... All of which is a little tight under the engine bay of a prewar car (I guess thats why they usually stuff things like master cylinders under the floor) Hopefully they all load in the right order....
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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jimi Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,223	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...jimi @jimil
	Sept 21, 2023 10:32:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Nice job on the master cylinder Good good see someone (Dez ?) looking after their hearing with proper ear defenders (Peltor Optime's) I've used Peltors for over 30 years and Optime's since they were introduced, very effective my hearing is still good after years of working in engine/hydraulic pump rooms, supercharged V16 EMD's are not quiet 👍
	Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour

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grizz Probably posted too much REZIN ROCKIT......🚀 Posts: 28,504	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...grizz @grizz
	Sept 21, 2023 11:41:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I missed the introduction of this car. Good to see the two of you on this build. Great result’s guaranteed
	1966 Chevy C10 V8 REDNECK EXPRESS. (Restoration now) GRIZZ-POD Build Thread grizzmakes.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-birth-of-grizzmakes.html IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM MATE. .

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 22, 2023 11:52:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Exhaust system contained too many baked bean cans, and hung a little low. Aloowing for potential future lowness of the car and also making the right sort of noises Dez has been at work again...
	Last Edit: Sept 22, 2023 11:53:59 GMT by akku 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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horrido Posted a lot Posts: 1,065	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...horrido @horrido
	Sept 22, 2023 19:05:39 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I really like this! Just proves the point that you don't have to spend a fortune to have a neat little hot rod and it doesn't have to be perfect to be cool.


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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Sept 30, 2023 17:06:06 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	More fun and fiddly bits making the brakes actually work - the pedal box is about finished as of this week, there's some work to do to fit up an bleed up and it should be stopping properly. The fuel sysem probably wants a flush out, theres some bits and bobs of electrical work to do and a bit of refitting and mackling up. Theres still the heater to go in and the wiper motor is missing which will require something adapting. Then its pretty much onto bits of bodywork & this n that and the home straight for phase 1.
	Last Edit: Sept 30, 2023 17:09:21 GMT by akku 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Oct 16, 2023 14:03:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	The Wolseley continues to come together. Brakes and pedal box is the main current focus. Looks too nice to put your feet all over... Also I am busily dealing with the DVLA on the registration still. So thats basically where that is at
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Oct 16, 2023 20:07:44 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Dez now has it all installed... However we are missing a vital item... It goes here on the front brake It is an odd size because of the bigger lines. It’s 7/16”UNF. We can buy 3/8” for the later cars but can’t find one of these. Anyone any ideas or suggestions, welcome...
	Last Edit: Oct 16, 2023 20:12:26 GMT by akku 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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akku Probably posted too much Posts: 15,889	1941 Wolseley 14/60 Met Cop Car, brit rod, whatever...akku @alistairk
	Oct 19, 2023 9:54:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	eBay has come good on the brass banjo and now other work is taking place. Because I am proper fancy and a bit nesh I have acquired a heater for the car and Dez is installing this as part of the works I grabbed that off eBay a little while ago testing the core Various repairs to the unit itself... Also new brake lines being run... and some weldy action where holes discovered.
	1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta

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