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Grinders should also be fitted with spannerless nuts too. This is a hugely underrated comment. I recently changed to spannerless nuts on mine and its a game changer. No more messing about with the tool, trying to undo the nut. Just flick the tab out, lock the head and turn. I have a cordless and a corded grinder. Both the same size, so they can share consumables. Like the others, I tend to use the cordless one for basic cutting and some flap wheel action, but the corded one just has a ton more grunt so use that to grind down welds or cut thicker steel. If you do go cordless, keep in mind that the smaller batteries like the 2AH ones tools come with just wont cut it (heh). The bigger batteries, although heavier and bulkier, have mine much better runtime and a noticeable increase in power.
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slater
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I've never found the spannerless nuts to be nessicary personally. Only time a spanner ever goes near any of my grinders is when a cutting disc gets pinched and leaves behind nothing to grip while wrenching the nut on extra tight..
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thomfr
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I have a small 115mm 18V Makita cordless which I love for the convenience of be able to walk somewhere and to be able to cut or grind instantly (especially now while doing construction work at home) but hate for it's bulkiness with a battery on the back and the different balance feeling due to this compared to a corded one (which I blew the rotor of).
Beside that I have a 230mm disc Makita slow start corded beast which helps me out for all heavier cutting and grinding stuff (and also only cost Eur. 150,-) and never runs out of power.
Thom
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mk2cossie
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Jan 20, 2023 12:42:14 GMT
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Not a single mention of metabo? They’re famed for making the best grinders by miles. I’ve had a 5” for 5+ years, nothing else lasts two. That’s daily heavy fab use. . I have a cordless Metabo angle grinder, and its been amazing in the 6-7 years I've owned it. It isn't amazing on batteries, but most cordless grinders aren't, but the swivelling battery mount is a game changer Also has a very low profile head, so can get in to places most grinders can't, and is also in a fetching red colour with Snap-On embossed on it
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Jan 21, 2023 16:22:49 GMT
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Not a single mention of metabo? They’re famed for making the best grinders by miles. I’ve had a 5” for 5+ years, nothing else lasts two. That’s daily heavy fab use. Bosch professional (blue, not green) are second. Makita grinders were great 10 years ago, now they’re one of the worst. Dewalt have never been that good for corded either. As said above, but something quality that’s smooth and quiet, even if you’re using it for 10 mins some cheapo that will rattle your teeth out and send you deaf at the same time aint enjoyable (or safe) to use. Metabo are great. I work in stainless fabrication and we have a lot of metabo 110 grinderettes and 9" discers and they last forever and most impirtantly are really smooth. I've got a cheapo black and decker for light DIY stuff at home and it's like using a pneumatic drill in comparison, fine for odd jobs but if I was using it 10 hours away I'd have no arms or teeth left!
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jmsheahan
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Jan 23, 2023 10:08:52 GMT
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Echoing the comments about the spannerless nuts. If you keep switching between consumables they save so much time! I have a Milwaukee M18 grinder (6ah batt) and a dirt cheap Baulker (I think?) corded grinder which cost about 25 quid a few years back. The Baulker is heavy, noticeably noisier and doesn't have a quick stop function should it slip. Ask my arm from this weekend how it feels about that It is however bulletproof despite the abuse I've given it and has considerably more grunt than the M18. It's survived bare metalling two car undersides and is currently embarking on it's third. The M18 however is so much nicer to hold when doing longer stints, albeit underpowered in comparison, and having it good to go without extension leads is a real win. But, inevitably you either need to keep stopping to recharge the battery or invest a small fortune in battery packs. Cordless means more coffee breaks whilst recharging packs though so there is that
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Jan 23, 2023 11:07:23 GMT
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Having had many Bosch power tools fail over the years I rate them as poor. Amazingly a Deck and Blacker grinder I bought in the early 90s is still going, it has a very long rubberised cable, but no spindle lock. I doubt very much the current ones are made like this. If I had to buy a grinder today I'd buy a corded Makita, Metabo, maybe Milwaukee or DeWalt. I have a cheap battery grinder, it is gutless especially in cold weather.
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Jan 23, 2023 22:33:21 GMT
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i had a b&q own brand corded grinder that lasted close to 20 years of home/diy/hobby use. it came with a spare set of brushes which after the second set wore out i couldnt find a set to replace with, so that was the end of that. only cost about £20 i believe.
so, the second corded grinder i bought was a bosch, because all i could find online were bosch brushes and i thought i'd be ok for a while. this bosch grinder is still living to this day, and i believe still on the original brushes about 5 yrs on. cost about £45 i think.
i then got sick of changing discs all the time and decided to break the bank and bought a LIDL corded Parkside grinder for about £20, pretty decent bit of kit with variable speed, although the button was a bit of a faff until it wore in a bit, still lasting, still on the original brushes.
its a bit of a toss up between hobbyist/pro and the amount of use itll see. most of my work is near my vice or somewhere within my garage, so corded suits me fine. think you'll be fine with the silverline Grizz, let us know how its going in 6 months.
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i managed to destroy a brand new Einhell in one day. I assumed Parkside /Silvercrest/powerbase etc and the like would be as bad but it looks like they are much better from what other people have said.
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Jan 24, 2023 14:02:09 GMT
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I've mostly had cheap corded 5" ones from Lidl, Argos etc, I find they last pretty well but are a bit rough and crude to use. I also have a worx battery one, the 2AH battery doesn't last long but it is useful for the odd cut here and there and fits in tight places.
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Jan 25, 2023 19:45:57 GMT
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i managed to destroy a brand new Einhell in one day. I assumed Parkside /Silvercrest/powerbase etc and the like would be as bad but it looks like they are much better from what other people have said. I think it varies between tools and who they are made for,
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thomfr
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It is also technical feeling etc. I did some far too big jobs for the little Makita 125mm. corded grinder over the years. Just listen (through the ear protection) to the sound it makes. If it sounded too stressed just backed off a bit and give it every half an our a minute to cool down. Kept it alive for years. While doing some demolition work for our construction work at home a month ago my brother in law managed to kill it within 15 minutes while I was not around. Grrrr... But he is working in the construction industry..
Thom
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Jan 26, 2023 12:08:45 GMT
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It is also technical feeling etc. I did some far too big jobs for the little Makita 125mm. corded grinder over the years. Just listen (through the ear protection) to the sound it makes. If it sounded too stressed just backed off a bit and give it every half an our a minute to cool down. Kept it alive for years. While doing some demolition work for our construction work at home a month ago my brother in law managed to kill it within 15 minutes while I was not around. Grrrr... But he is working in the construction industry.. Thom I managed to trigger tinnitus while working on the Rezin Rockit It may have been dormant, building up or just waiting to be triggered. Quite inconvenient.
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thomfr
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Jan 26, 2023 12:39:08 GMT
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It is also technical feeling etc. I did some far too big jobs for the little Makita 125mm. corded grinder over the years. Just listen (through the ear protection) to the sound it makes. If it sounded too stressed just backed off a bit and give it every half an our a minute to cool down. Kept it alive for years. While doing some demolition work for our construction work at home a month ago my brother in law managed to kill it within 15 minutes while I was not around. Grrrr... But he is working in the construction industry.. Thom I managed to trigger tinnitus while working on the Rezin Rockit It may have been dormant, building up or just waiting to be triggered. Quite inconvenient. Here dito. Not always present but very annoying. When it triggered I do not know exactly but it was in a very stressful time in a previous job so I think it was a combination of noise and stress and after more that 3 years I'm quite confident that I have to live with it.. Thom
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Jan 27, 2023 19:27:06 GMT
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I've mostly had cheap corded 5" ones from Lidl, Argos etc, I find they last pretty well but are a bit rough and crude to use. One of my Aldi ones - the one with the cutting disc in it - has given up the ghost today, but I think it might only be the carbon brushes so I'll have to try to find the spare pair that came with it when I bought it in 2014. It's been very good, for the money. I can't say whether it's rough and crude as all of mine bar the first have been cheap ones. The first was a Black and Decker one, and I'd like to use it just to use up the slightly-smaller grinding discs that I've got, but the mains lead is strange and has broken up, and a replacement from a B&D parts supplier is more than double what an Aldi grinder cost last time I saw them.
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melle
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I still use the Skil 5" that I bought as my first angle grinder around 1998, and also a second hand 3M-branded one that someone gave me, two Metabos I liberated from skips and fixed with new brushes and fresh grease, and a blue Bosch GWS 850C that I bought brand new a couple of years ago when I needed a lightweight 5" angle grinder to make overhead work a little easier. (If you need spannerless nuts for quick consumables changes you clearly don't have enough grinders! 🤣) Very happy with all of them, but the switches on both Metabos aren't great as they occasionally disengage (I can probably get new ones from Metabo for the price of a new grinder). I occasionally do some light maintenance on them, mainly opening them up and blowing them out with compressed air, and regreasing "gearboxes", and I've replaced the odd bearing over the years. The only grinder I've ever had to replace (well, still need to replace), was a beast of a 1970's 9" Fein that someone ran over with a forklift. 🤬 My father in law has a 9" Hikoki that I use when I need a big grinder, which isn't very often; I would happily buy one of those if I were in the market for a new 9".
I don't have any cordless tools bar my brother in law's old Makita drill that he was going to bin because the battery only lasts about ten minutes, which is fine for the occasional screw. I'm sure battery tools have their use, but I simply don't have a need for them and also, I try to avoid buying anything that has batteries because of the environmental implications, e.g., of lithium mining.
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Update on my Aldi grinder - it was indeed just the carbon brushes, and as one was shorter than the other I expect I'd have got away with replacing just one of them. But, the new pair came in the box with the grinder so I put them both in, and all is well again.
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Rescued from the scrap pile, tried it,it runs. Blow out the motor, shove some grease in the gearbox, just need to test it in anger Ttfn Glenn
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namless
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Feb 14, 2023 15:34:30 GMT
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Not going to lie, for donky work I use aldi or lidl grinders i have a 14 year old parkside grinder that has seen some hard work wirebrushing chassis, plates and all sorts, lately been using the aldi battery one for running a wirewheel and its great.
Top tip occasionally give the grinders a purge with the airline to get rid of internal dust (without opening)
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melle
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Feb 14, 2023 16:39:45 GMT
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What's the harm in opening them? It's usually only one screw and it allows you to remove all dust from every nook and cranny.
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