nigxl
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Dec 10, 2022 19:13:17 GMT
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Decided to build a new garage in the garden having previously had planning for a bungalow on the site. But you can't park cars in a bungalow. Is anyone using these chinese diesel heaters for heating? If so did you mount them outside in an enclose and duct through the wall or were they mounted inside and exhausting out through the wall? I'll add a few pics so you can see where I am to date.     |
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Last Edit: Dec 10, 2022 19:15:27 GMT by nigxl
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Dec 10, 2022 19:19:30 GMT
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I'm using one from Maxspeedingrods. 5Kw all in one unit. Lots of paranoid people say they MUST be in a box outside as the exhaust might leak and kill you. But really, why should it leak if fitted properly? I fitted mine inside the garage with the burner inlet & exhaust piped out of the wall with proper gas tight paste on the exhaust fitting. They need a 12v 30A power supply. It kicks out a lot of heat but for my garage (24ft x 12ft) with single block walls I think 2 would be about right for heating.  |
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nigxl
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Dec 10, 2022 19:40:43 GMT
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That looks a neat bit of kit.
Mine is 6.7m x 7.3m with attic trusses above so another room.
It's going to have full insulation as well as insulated garage doors and double glazing so I was hoping to get away with one heater if possible. Not too concerned about heat as such, just enough to take the chill off.
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Dec 10, 2022 19:50:17 GMT
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If yours is insulated then one should be enough. I ran mine for a test today - 0.01C degrees in garage - ran the heater for about 20 mins and it was 4.3C I think mine struggles to get the temp up on its own (I have a convector heater & an Infra red as well) but once it gets it warm it works extremely well. If you do facebook then there is a good group www.facebook.com/groups/212813887001237 Chinese Deisel heaters UK with a lot of very good tech info pinned to the top of the page. |
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nigxl
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If yours is insulated then one should be enough. I ran mine for a test today - 0.01C degrees in garage - ran the heater for about 20 mins and it was 4.3C I think mine struggles to get the temp up on its own (I have a convector heater & an Infra red as well) but once it gets it warm it works extremely well. If you do facebook then there is a good group www.facebook.com/groups/212813887001237 Chinese Deisel heaters UK with a lot of very good tech info pinned to the top of the page. Appreciate that thanks. I've joined the group. |
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Paul Y
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Dec 12, 2022 12:52:17 GMT
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I have just invested in one of these www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394077090877Really happy with it - a lot of the comments about checking this and checking that before use - noisy pump etc I have not experienced.  Over engineered some brackets and fixed it to the wall  This unit actually came with a hole saw, would have been useful if my garage was not double walled brick but a nice touch. My exhaust exits out at an angle and during the initial fire up, after the 'new' smell had burnt off no issues at all. Out put is supposedly 8kw so not enough to heat my garage but in conjunction with a torpedo heater to get it up to temperature, holds my uninsulated, slightly draughty, garage at around 18c. Next step is to get a 12v transformer, install some proper piping to get etc heat into the centre of the garage and then enjoy. So, in conclusion. Worth the money. P.  |
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Last Edit: Dec 12, 2022 13:23:17 GMT by Paul Y
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Dec 12, 2022 16:31:23 GMT
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They look a handy thing. Basically a big version of a truck night heater
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nigxl
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Dec 12, 2022 17:08:07 GMT
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 Decided to go for this 5kw heater. It's actually going in the block shed/hobby room in the fourth picture for the mrs. I'm going to mount it outside as she's pushed for space as it is. It's probably an overkill for the shed but I can always replace it for a 2kw model and have the 5kw for the garage once it's finished. Work is at a standstill this week as it's -5 where I am and no one fancies going on the scaffold / ice rink. |
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Dec 12, 2022 17:13:00 GMT
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Could you not run a radiator in the hobby room & garage from the house?
I now have an integral garage and my plan is to put the massive hall rad in it when we update the hall.
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nigxl
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Could you not run a radiator in the hobby room & garage from the house? I now have an integral garage and my plan is to put the massive hall rad in it when we update the hall. Not really without digging up the paths around the house. I think the heat losses would have been too great due to the length of run anyway. Also you are governed by the temperature of your thermostat in the house then. Think the house will come up to temp before the garage would, thus shutting off the boiler. |
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Nathan
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Grabbed one of those cheap heaters recently too, I've got mine running off an Xbox One power brick as they do need quite a bit of juice to get fired initially. It gets my bench area up to temp but the rest of the workshop it needs a hand with the paraffin burner (10-20mins).
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Dec 13, 2022 12:29:41 GMT
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Hi, From what I've learnt they are all the same internals just packaged differently, they are all 5kw output the only difference is what's printed on the advert or the label. If you're putting it outside the building put fresh diesel in because it will have an anti-waxing additive.
Colin
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Dec 13, 2022 12:58:06 GMT
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Those little heaters are pretty good.
I have one heating up my workshop mounted on the inside with the intake and exhaust for the combustion chamber ducted outside, been running on red diesel or kero depending what i have for the past 3 years. no real issues.
2 of them would probably work better as it takes a while to get up to temperature but its a fairly big workshop so i usually put a gas heater on for a few minutes first to give it a hand.
I would reccomend a CO alarm just to be safe but thats fairly common sense in a workshop anyway.
Tempted to try running it on old oil and diesel mix but have heard mixed reviews on how well that works. also need to have a play with exhaust heat exchangers but havent got around to it.
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nigxl
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Grabbed one of those cheap heaters recently too, I've got mine running off an Xbox One power brick as they do need quite a bit of juice to get fired initially. It gets my bench area up to temp but the rest of the workshop it needs a hand with the paraffin burner (10-20mins). I've got hold of a second hand space heater for the initial warm up but it's brutal  . Hell of a heat off of it but will probably consume 11kg of gas in around 3 to 4 hours if left on. |
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nigxl
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Those little heaters are pretty good. I have one heating up my workshop mounted on the inside with the intake and exhaust for the combustion chamber ducted outside, been running on red diesel or kero depending what i have for the past 3 years. no real issues. 2 of them would probably work better as it takes a while to get up to temperature but its a fairly big workshop so i usually put a gas heater on for a few minutes first to give it a hand. I would reccomend a CO alarm just to be safe but thats fairly common sense in a workshop anyway. Tempted to try running it on old oil and diesel mix but have heard mixed reviews on how well that works. also need to have a play with exhaust heat exchangers but havent got around to it. From what I've read about using old oil/diesel mix is that they tend to mess up the internals of the heater. Ok if you are happy to strip and clean it out every so often. |
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Not really without digging up the paths around the house. I think the heat losses would have been too great due to the length of run anyway. Also you are governed by the temperature of your thermostat in the house then. Think the house will come up to temp before the garage would, thus shutting off the boiler. Ahh, couldnt tell how far the house was from the outbuildings. I was just thinking it might be a way to keep the ambient temp up, rather than trying to heat the space from nothing each time. |
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Dec 20, 2022 19:12:12 GMT
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I'm surprised they don't do a wet version of those heaters so you can use them as a block heater etc, would be a simple task then to use one as a boiler to run some rads especially as you can program controls on then to come on with frost etc.
Underfloor heating would be great on a new build garage.
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nigxl
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Dec 21, 2022 20:13:09 GMT
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  Underfloor heating would be great but tricky with the weight of vehicles I'd guess |
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Dec 21, 2022 20:41:41 GMT
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I'm surprised they don't do a wet version of those heaters so you can use them as a block heater etc, would be a simple task then to use one as a boiler to run some rads especially as you can program controls on then to come on with frost etc. Underfloor heating would be great on a new build garage. Some cars have them to provide heat (I think mainly diesels), I had a 2.7 S-Type that had one connected to the heater, maybe it could be adapted but I wouldn't think it would give out much heat for a large area. |
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Dec 21, 2022 20:43:54 GMT
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Could you not run a radiator in the hobby room & garage from the house? I now have an integral garage and my plan is to put the massive hall rad in it when we update the hall. Not really without digging up the paths around the house. I think the heat losses would have been too great due to the length of run anyway. Also you are governed by the temperature of your thermostat in the house then. Think the house will come up to temp before the garage would, thus shutting off the boiler. You can get insulated pipework to install below ground that has very minimal heatloss (but appreciate the concern about the digging), you can also alter the controls so that the garage is on its own circuit and can run independant of the house, just need a couple of two port valves and a controller and stat in the garage. |
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