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Nov 11, 2022 12:29:06 GMT
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I never really have much of value to add from an advice point of view.
But admiration in spades for what you have taken on.
I too, like these, the basic shape and way they look.
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ToolsnTrack
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Nov 11, 2022 13:13:37 GMT
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Looks like a decent base for wild plans... I’ve seen a lot worse go again, that’s for sure. I know it needs chassis welding so it’ll be a body off job, but if you’re not trying to cut corners and avoid that, it’s actually the easiest way to do a lot of things on these. I don't think I can comment on cutting corners, my build series doing just that on the Chimaera had ample sketchy schit WITH the body off, mostly around lifting it with 2 engine hoists, but i digress.. I put good money on your plans needing more mods than you think on the chassis, so might as well go all out and sort it front to back. Looking forward to this one!! |
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Nov 11, 2022 13:21:48 GMT
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Love a Scimitar! Had a couple myself a few years ago. Agree about the shocking quality interior (also had an 80s Lotus and same applies). Hopefully yours will be OK but on my second one some of the steel bonded inside the fibreglass was rotten. Ended up as a chassis donor for somebody else.
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Davey
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Nov 11, 2022 13:37:52 GMT
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Intrigued to the effectiveness of the bodgehook. Can see it actually working.
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village
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Nov 11, 2022 13:40:21 GMT
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Is it too late to mention that the Vauxhaul Omega engine and gearbox is a fairly easy swap?
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"The White Van is strong with this one...."
Chris "Chesney" Allen 1976-2005 RIP
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Nov 11, 2022 13:40:56 GMT
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Doesn't the Jag LSD fit straight into the Scimitar axle? I have heard this stated many times but I am unsure ifs its pub knowledge based on the fact they are both Sailsbury units. |
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Nov 11, 2022 14:58:32 GMT
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Is it too late to mention that the Vauxhaul Omega engine and gearbox is a fairly easy swap? Yes. V8 😀 |
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Dez
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Nov 11, 2022 16:11:21 GMT
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You are brave man Dez, but there's loads of potential in that. I think once I’ve got 30 years of filth off it, it’ll be a fairly easy going job. Certainly no worse than the lada. |
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Dez
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Nov 11, 2022 16:17:20 GMT
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I’ve seen a lot worse go again, that’s for sure. I know it needs chassis welding so it’ll be a body off job, but if you’re not trying to cut corners and avoid that, it’s actually the easiest way to do a lot of things on these. I don't think I can comment on cutting corners, my build series doing just that on the Chimaera had ample sketchy schit WITH the body off, mostly around lifting it with 2 engine hoists, but i digress.. I put good money on your plans needing more mods than you think on the chassis, so might as well go all out and sort it front to back. Looking forward to this one!! I’m actually thinking the chassis will need less than I thought! They’ve very spacious between the rails, , and other than probably moving the engine mounts I cant really see any issue. There is no crossmember to deal with as it’s in front of the engine under the steering rack, so it can take any shape sump. I envisage most of the work regarding the swap will be mounting a larger rad and plumbing and ducting it accordingly. Also the turret brace will need remaking to a different shape. |
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Dez
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Nov 11, 2022 16:19:21 GMT
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Love a Scimitar! Had a couple myself a few years ago. Agree about the shocking quality interior (also had an 80s Lotus and same applies). Hopefully yours will be OK but on my second one some of the steel bonded inside the fibreglass was rotten. Ended up as a chassis donor for somebody else. As it came from a family of scimitar owners, the usual bits around the door pillars and sills where inspected and deemed ok. The doors certainly shut better than any other one I’ve encountered. Maybe another benefit to 30 years of non-use in relatively dry storage. |
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Dez
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Nov 11, 2022 16:20:13 GMT
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Intrigued to the effectiveness of the bodgehook. Can see it actually working. From what I can tell, it did! Certainly no major shooting around that port so it doesn’t seem to have leaked. |
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Dez
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Nov 11, 2022 16:22:48 GMT
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Is it too late to mention that the Vauxhaul Omega engine and gearbox is a fairly easy swap? I have experience with them, and I’d never view them as a engine swap candidate. Overly complicated and with some pretty major design flaws. If I was using a 6 it would be a straight and not a V. Neither compare to a Windsor though. |
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Dez
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Nov 11, 2022 16:29:32 GMT
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Doesn't the Jag LSD fit straight into the Scimitar axle? I have heard this stated many times but I am unsure ifs its pub knowledge based on the fact they are both Sailsbury units. Many year ago I bought a chassis donor scimitar and it had an axle with a powerlok fitted. I was going to sell the axle and I pulled the cover to check the ratio to be confronted by it. I did some research at the time and iirc there is a disparity in the width of the carrier bearings, so you need two spacers making to centre the diff in the scim case. I sold that axle for 3x what I’d paid for the whole chassis to a guy with a Jensen interceptor racecar 😁 |
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Nov 11, 2022 18:36:22 GMT
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Grimitar. :-)
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Nov 11, 2022 20:34:51 GMT
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I love these cars. Like you say- underrated. I know you've made your engine choice already but if I had one I think a Jaguar V6 and manual box would be sweet- like what are now often finding homes in mx5s. Nice and light, efficient and smooth. I spotted this one in Oxford a few years ago. I love the style of repairs     |
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Nov 11, 2022 21:34:58 GMT
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scimiborg !
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Mark
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Nov 11, 2022 21:41:13 GMT
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Enjoying this so far Dez!
I know you're set on going v8 but how about a tuned BMW m57?
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Nov 11, 2022 22:38:09 GMT
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Can vouch for the M57 being an excellent engine, especially with a hybrid and 535d injectors. Might need a different axle at the back mind, depending on torque rating of the Scimitar one and/or ratio. The BMW gearboxes are pretty short (5th is direct drive) so a low ratio diff is needed. Jag IRS will take 500lb-ft or so with a 2.88 diff if you could wedge it in there. Bet there's plenty of strong, low ratio live axles out there too though which might be a little easier.
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Nov 12, 2022 10:08:28 GMT
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Will people please stop trying to talk Dez out of using a Windsor engine!
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bstardchild
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Nov 12, 2022 10:21:52 GMT
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Is it too late to mention that the Vauxhaul Omega engine and gearbox is a fairly easy swap? I have experience with them, and I’d never view them as a engine swap candidate. Overly complicated and with some pretty major design flaws. If I was using a 6 it would be a straight and not a V. Neither compare to a Windsor though. As a serial Opel/Vauxhall nut - I one hundred percent agree about the V6 being poo However V8 FTW |
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