sonus
Europe
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Nov 10, 2023 21:40:37 GMT
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Anyone riding a Vmax has to read Joe Bar Team comics  One of the classics is when one of the youngsters test rides a Vmax for the first time arter getting his licens 😅👍 |
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Last Edit: Nov 10, 2023 21:43:11 GMT by sonus
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1968 TVR VIXEN S1 V8 Prototype
2004 TVR T350C
2017 BMW 340i
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BMW 325d E91LCI - sold
Alfa Romeo GTV - sold
Citroen AX GT - at the breakers
Ford Puma 1.7 - sold
Volvo V50 2.0d - sold
MGB GT - wrecked by fire
MG ZT 1.8T - sold
VW E-golf Electric - sold
Mini Countryman 1.6D -sold
Land Rover Discovery TD5 - sold
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Dec 13, 2023 13:58:01 GMT
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I have disappointedly been let down by 2 companies on Uprights, it’s a shame being led down the garden path with “ next week “ or “2 weeks” There isn’t really a problem having custom uprights made if money is no object, trying find race quality in the real world is severely limited. I am weighing up the options either a set of cast Ford WRC upright all around  Or going for a set of new old stock RS200 upright’s Which the fronts have same geometry as WRC type   I going get Xmas out of the way then make a decision. |
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Dec 13, 2023 22:48:34 GMT
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The company Maturo (MCC) in the Netherlands have just finished building a quite nice 037 replica. I think those things have a rear suspension that's not too far off what you need?
They also build high quality Delta's for rally's and i've seen a Stratos there as well.
They are very helpful and knowledgeable guys. Perhaps they can help you.
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The company Maturo (MCC) in the Netherlands have just finished building a quite nice 037 replica. I think those things have a rear suspension that's not too far off what you need? They also build high quality Delta's for rally's and i've seen a Stratos there as well. They are very helpful and knowledgeable guys. Perhaps they can help you. Thanks I staying with Ford Cosworth WRC type to dramatically keep relevant prices of parts, brake bells hubs CV flanges etc low and easy to obtain Italian guy makes all the 037 suspension parts 4 uprights with hubs bearings €7000, then I would have to change my wheels I just bought Ford pattern race parts are about £4500 and wheels, brakes, disc calipers brake bells etc are all off the shelf available, massively minimizing the amount of machine work and cost But I do like the 037 stuff, I will be using 037 geometry as close as possible Instant swing arm length Roll center height, exact on front but higher in rear 3 hole suspension ride height adjustment |
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Dec 29, 2023 12:10:16 GMT
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Lots of mathematical calculations and guideline geometry and aesthetics later, I am ditching my new just bought 15x10 Minilites, due to limited quality tyre availability I will be run a staggered tyre wheel combination, this means in order to run a 12.00” wide rear I have to jump up to 17” diameter wheel for 315/35ZR17 AR-1 Nanking
Bit of loss on what I had purchased but hopefully they will sell at some point to offset cost of the required custom order 3 piece Minilite style rears.
Other decision I have made is to order Group 5 front Spoiler section and Grp4 rally spot lamp pod
The idea is to follow the 037 with its multiple hole suspension mounting so can switch between 2 ride height’s without effecting alignment
170mm and 200mm chassis to ground clearance
Love the look and functionality of both, so why compromise
Next week going to Prestige Motorsports to look at Ford WRC Grp A uprights and associated components put my big shopping list in order
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Dec 29, 2023 12:51:54 GMT
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Dec 29, 2023 12:53:58 GMT
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Dec 29, 2023 12:59:12 GMT
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Dec 29, 2023 14:02:31 GMT
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Dec 29, 2023 17:09:08 GMT
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I take it uprights from Lister Bell are no use to you?
Or perhaps Ultima?
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Dec 29, 2023 17:29:10 GMT
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LB are macpherson strut
Ultima could work , but I am not familiar with them, probably not as strong as WRC + they would not have the same easy off the shelf component fit easy to get high strength
I’ve worked a colleague Replica Lola T70 MK1 if they are like these ? Not that impressed
Ie bolt on production wheel hub bearing cartridge just will not do
+ they have to be close to 037 dimensions to achieve the required geometry
As I wrote before it’s either WRC RS200 or real 037
Best cost availability is WRC
Thanks for the input and ideas
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Dec 31, 2023 11:15:32 GMT
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I take it uprights from Lister Bell are no use to you? Or perhaps Ultima? I did look at Ultima, they look really good, unfortunately they are designed around 17” -19” Wheels the rear in particular I would not be able to either sink inside the wheel deep enough but more importantly I would not be able to achieve the ideal RC roll center height + it still looks like Ford WRC has the proven super strong wheel bearing package If it wasn’t a Stratos type car they would be a really good option |
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Dec 31, 2023 12:04:32 GMT
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I hadn't realised you weren't doing Macpherson strut.
Is it going to be an out and out competition car?
I must have missed that, I tend to be more interested in pictures :-)
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Dec 31, 2023 12:15:10 GMT
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I hadn't realised you weren't doing Macpherson strut. Is it going to be an out and out competition car? I must have missed that, I tend to be more interested in pictures :-) I wouldn’t say out and out race car but definitely hillclimbs and the odd tarmac rally Our roads are horrendous and B class roads can be worse still |
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Darkspeed
Club Retro Rides Member
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Club RR Member Number: 39
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Dec 31, 2023 23:19:28 GMT
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The way its going at the moment you will be stretching the wheelbase and going North-South before too long.
I am putting on the Rose coloureds and hoping that the roads get improved - I'm at 40mm lower than your lowest chassis height.
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The way its going at the moment you will be stretching the wheelbase and going North-South before too long. I am putting on the Rose coloureds and hoping that the roads get improved - I'm at 40mm lower than your lowest chassis height. Yes my ride height will not directly relate as my whole base floor is raised over the Litton ie no lowered seat pan area Just as a reference John runs his car 200mm from lower edge of the Sill front to rear, he has deeper seat well than the original Litton, lower than that sill measurement, I’m short and the Tillet seat is layed back more End of the day the body is in height range that the original Stratos used , wheels will be centered and look right in the wheel arches Definitely not stretching or turning the engine 😀 170mm is standard chassis height on a 037 Original drawing of the Stratos showed lowest point 130 that’s were the 40mm difference is in measurements |
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Jan 12, 2024 10:58:41 GMT
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After months of avoiding the door hinge / door fit Finally got around to it, my lightweight solution is definitely race car V sturdy road car, but it works. 4130 hinge receiver Stainless rivnuts with Ally shim spacer and matching Ally plate inside to sandwich clamp the door shell, secured with Ally 7075 Allen head screws, the Ally shim will be eventually painted body colour   Beautiful billet 20mm Velocity Stacks arrived to correct the tuned length intake Work in progress throttle linkage mounting bracket, that will be triangulated brace to cam cover mount   |
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Jan 23, 2024 11:30:29 GMT
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I found retired robotics mechanical engineer Dave to help me with Solidworks CAD work Dave drawn up a name plate for the cam cover, and filter box carb top flanges to support to be made moulded see through polycarbonate air box   These have been sent to my local waterjet cutting firm Getting close to completion of the throttle linkage, bracket needs bracing to cam cover bolt hole, profiling etc The throttle arms came with optional pivot holes, I cut off the long section so they are the same length arms as the Weber links, but had cut the clamping slit.    Reason only 2 carbs and manifolds is due to sending 1 assembly to Dave He is 3d scanning my fabricated manifold, transfer to CAD, he is then going to perfect taper inlet tracks and radius, shorten the manifolds 20mm then 3D print manifold in hi temp carbon reinforced plastic as I have decided to go 48mm TBI and Fueltech FT550 EFi route |
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Jan 24, 2024 14:19:33 GMT
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Just return from Essex and back drive to inspect Ford Motorsport WRC Grp A Cosworth Escort Uprights, Hubs, CV drive stubs, steering arms, Lower front A / control arms, adj' anti roll bars etc Quality as to be expected with real race components. Repeat the journey again in 4 weeks to collect the parts, then I can finally get on with completing the chassis fabrication. Just a few pics    |
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Jan 24, 2024 19:07:15 GMT
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Just need to sand a little off right here...😅  |
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