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Hello guys, need some help as it's the first time I'm doing this, so my car turns 40 this year, and the current mot expires on the same day as the date it was first registered, to declear an mot exemption is there anything I need to do or would the system automatically update once the current mot expires and it over its first registered 40 years ago Mark.
With historic tax I am I correct in saying this can only be done through the post office who send off your log book.
All help appreciated in advance
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ChasR
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Mot and tax exemption ChasR
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Proper way is to go to the post office.
However, the next time you Tax it, you can declare it online when the time comes to tax it again.
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Jul 10, 2022 12:04:51 GMT
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you mite need to wait until April if it turns 40 this year
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dragon
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Jul 10, 2022 15:15:48 GMT
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There's another post on here with the same sort of information. What date is it 40. Through adatig letter I gained mot exemption but tax exemption is granted on the April following its 40th birthday.
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Jul 10, 2022 15:26:21 GMT
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It's was first registered in August 1982, would the mot exemption come on automatically once the current mot expires which is also in August this year
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Jul 10, 2022 17:35:03 GMT
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If it turns 40 in August of this year, then it's not VED-exempt until April 1st next year, presuming there is no change in things before then.
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Jul 10, 2022 18:22:20 GMT
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It is next year unless you can prove build date. If it’s a ford then easy Peezy. If not then good luck. I had to prove build date to dvla. Post office have not got a clue on the first attempt.
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slater
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For the MOT theres nothing you need to do. As soon as its 40 years from when it was registered its exempt. Its not the same thing as historic tax class.
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Hi, Yes strictly speaking it's not 'tax exempt'. It still needs to be taxed however it is zero rated. In your case to tax it you will need insurance.
Colin
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Jul 11, 2022 16:13:15 GMT
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Hi, Yes strictly speaking it's not 'tax exempt'. It still needs to be taxed however it is zero rated. In your case to tax it you will need insurance. Colin Thanks, I understand the tax side now as it needs to be classed as historic next April, but wanted to know more about the mot which expires next month same as the date it was registered 40 years ago, wondering if it will automatically be mot exemption or will that also need applying for
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I've never "applied" for MOT exemption on either of my classics, I just went to do the VED renewal online once they'd passed 40 years and it was no longer an issue. The next time (so for the second year of VED without MOT requirement) the web site made me tick a box to confirm that the vehicles met the requirements for being MOT exempt.
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LowStandards
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My classic passed 40 this year and if I go to the vehicle enquiry it shows as mot expired, not exempt If I try to tax it, the website says it cannot find a valid mot certificate So i'm guessing I do need to do something?
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dragon
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You need form V112. Fill it in and post to DVLA. It doesn't say of you need to post the V5c. It does also say that you can visit the Post Office. I would suggest taking the V5c as well. Until you are tax exempt you will still have to pay VED. It would have been far simpler if it was actually MOT and Tax exempt at 40.
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LowStandards
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I filled one in the day it became exempt and posted it off, never got a reply or anything and clearly they've not updated anything
I'll have to wait until the new engine is in, so I can wander down the post office and see if they'll sort it
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slater
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Jul 12, 2022 13:58:41 GMT
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The v112 is what you would use to declare your vehicle conforms to MOT exemption rules when taxing at the post office. It's the same as ticking the declaration box when you tax an historic vehicle online. You should never have to send it to the DVLA unless you are trying to tax the vehicle.
The only time you have to declare MOT exemption is when you tax. The DVLA keeps no record of your vehicles MOT exemption status. Online you will only ever see 'MOT expired' never 'MOT Exempt' so don't worry about that.
Unfortunately theres a bit of a problem with the DVLA online system. It doesnt have a facility to allow you to tax an MOT exempt car that not registered as Historic. You will have to take it to a post office and fill in a v112 insted. I have come across this problem before with people using their 40+ year old vehicles for buisness purposes (hence needing to pay road tax) but still wishing to declare MOT exemption.
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Mot and tax exemption accord83
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Jul 12, 2022 17:22:36 GMT
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Why would anyone not get an annual MOT? Isn’t it a peace of mind thing to get a fresh set of eyes looking over your vehicle, and also shows you insurance company that in the unfortunate event of a collision that you looked after your vehicle (if only to a minimal standard)
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Jul 12, 2022 18:25:07 GMT
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Why would anyone not get an annual MOT? Isn’t it a peace of mind thing to get a fresh set of eyes looking over your vehicle, and also shows you insurance company that in the unfortunate event of a collision that you looked after your vehicle (if only to a minimal standard) Unfortunately, there are a lot of car owners who only ever fix faults when they're forced to by an MOT failure. Many of them are incapable of doing the jobs properly, no matter how many times they attempt them. And a number of these are incapable of taking any sort of criticism, especially from someone with expertise. Anybody who has been around enthusiast cars will have met these people and seen their work. A disinterested inspection is a good thing, and doing away with the MOT requirement is truly stupid.
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ferny
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There's another post on here with the same sort of information. What date is it 40. Through adatig letter I gained mot exemption but tax exemption is granted on the April following its 40th birthday. Ta for the reminder. I think you mean my thread. Either way, I just realised I've not had the new V5C.
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slater
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Jul 13, 2022 13:34:03 GMT
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Why would anyone not get an annual MOT? Isn’t it a peace of mind thing to get a fresh set of eyes looking over your vehicle, and also shows you insurance company that in the unfortunate event of a collision that you looked after your vehicle (if only to a minimal standard) Nope. I don't need other sets of eyes on my vehicles, especially when it's some brain dead MOT mong scamming me out of 50+quid for the privilege. The time saved alone is worth its weight in gold. If you're not able (or too lazy 😂) to keep check on your own vehicles yourself then by all means pay a professional to do it for you but you don't want an MOT you want a proper service and safety check where they arnt bound by silly MOT rules and you want it more than once a year if it's in daily service too. The MOT has become a joke. Just another corrupt box ticking exercise where all you need to pass is a few £20 notes. I agree we should be enforcing people looking after their vehicles but that needs to be done by roadside spot checks by the government..
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Mot and tax exemption accord83
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Jul 13, 2022 17:23:19 GMT
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Why would anyone not get an annual MOT? Isn’t it a peace of mind thing to get a fresh set of eyes looking over your vehicle, and also shows you insurance company that in the unfortunate event of a collision that you looked after your vehicle (if only to a minimal standard) Nope. I don't need other sets of eyes on my vehicles, especially when it's some brain dead MOT mong scamming me out of 50+quid for the privilege. The time saved alone is worth its weight in gold. If you're not able (or too lazy 😂) to keep check on your own vehicles yourself then by all means pay a professional to do it for you but you don't want an MOT you want a proper service and safety check where they arnt bound by silly MOT rules and you want it more than once a year if it's in daily service too. The MOT has become a joke. Just another corrupt box ticking exercise where all you need to pass is a few £20 notes. I agree we should be enforcing people looking after their vehicles but that needs to be done by roadside spot checks by the government.. Then find a decent old school MOT Station, I think you underestimate the small independents and if I was a tester I would take exception at your description of them. I have just had a very strict test, I was impressed, they found some advisories since repaired. I hadn’t had time thorough health and house moves to check my car. I will still get an annual MOT, I’m a retired Advanced Police Vehicle Examiner so I have a rough idea of what to look for myself, but the extra check is basically to show my insurance company I’m looking after my motor.
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74 Mk1 Escort 1360, 1971 Vauxhall Victor SL2000 Estate.
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