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Jul 12, 2022 11:32:25 GMT
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I'm thinking perhaps narrowing the grille, removing the parker/indicator mounts and fitting a set of headlights just wider than standard into the guards a little like they are on an Oxford of the same era might work nicely. Will have to do a better mock-up to get a feel.    Second option may help to widen the car visually as well as drawing it down a bit. I could be wrong. |
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Jul 12, 2022 13:08:25 GMT
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Another vote for the second one, grill in bodycolour. To the untrained eye (me) it looks oem, but better.
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Last Edit: Jul 12, 2022 13:11:35 GMT by bmcnut
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Jul 12, 2022 15:20:06 GMT
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I like no.1
Don't go near no.3!
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Jul 12, 2022 16:14:12 GMT
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Number 2 I think works best and would be the least work. Number 3 is more like a later minor, which would beg the question of why use a low light in the first place. I prefer the red photoshop in your first post  |
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looks good.
I know its (probably?) not going to stay like that but i do quite enjoy the patina its got at the moment.
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Not sure I'd raise the rear of your cut off gutter section to make the front line up (if that's what's happening). It makes the roof look like it's going uphill. Would it be better to reshape the curve for a better alignment where it meets the front of the roof, above the front quarterlight? You want to avoid the "jacked up at the back" look that these cars get when people just move the back of the roof forwards.
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Not sure I'd raise the rear of your cut off gutter section to make the front line up (if that's what's happening). It makes the roof look like it's going uphill. Would it be better to reshape the curve for a better alignment where it meets the front of the roof, above the front quarterlight? You want to avoid the "jacked up at the back" look that these cars get when people just move the back of the roof forwards. I think the condition you are talking about occurs because the rear of the roof is brought forward in a way that causes the whole curvature of the window opening to occur rapidly and behind the B pillar, which gives a disjointed feel. While I could reshape (and probably will to tighten the rear curve a tad) I like using Morris' own curve. I started with the rear at stock height and raised it until it didn't feel like the frame was visually drooping to me, which was a fault I felt in the last render I did. |
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Had a little bit more of a play when I got home, moving the profile back around 10mm, I think that has the line just about where I want it. I'll sit on it for a bit, tack it in, repeat on the other side then bring the back of the roof forward to about the right spot, then look at bringing the roof down. I suspect it will only come down an inch or so.  |
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I'm an idiot. You've barely started and here's me sticking my oar in about nothing! You know what you're doing.
Would it be worth making quick cardboard templates of the side window shape to see what you like the look of?
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I appreciate the constructive thoughts. It's hard to know where to start really with so many possible movements. I don't think I will push the side window shape too far yet, I think it is all going to end up a little iterative, as each tweak will influence another and each angle of viewing will bring about different insights. I think I will tack this frame in close to where it is next time I get a chance to work on the car. I did another super-rough photoshop based on the final image to get a sense of whether the direction was right. It all felt a little stumpy until I added extra depth to the roof behind the rear window, but even doing that I found that as soon as I chop the roof more than a fraction it looks out of proportion with the slab body side. sectioning is just a step too far for me, while it was a thing of the era, but I did notice that raising the window sill height (I have done it from the side strip, but the only practical way to do it in reality would be to add to the square section above the door's curve) I can give the impression of a lower roof without it looking out of proportion with the body. Doing so may make that box section look unusual but I will keep it in mind once the other changes are mocked in.   |
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Jul 26, 2022 10:39:51 GMT
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Bookmarked! Intrigued to see where this is going. For the love of all things holy though, keep the lowlight look!
On a different note, did your old lowlight end up being restored by its new owner?
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Jul 26, 2022 10:50:25 GMT
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Bookmarked! Intrigued to see where this is going. For the love of all things holy though, keep the lowlight look! On a different note, did your old lowlight end up being restored by its new owner? The new owner bought it with the intention of restoring, I'm get to hear if it has progressed, but it was a good candidate |
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Jul 26, 2022 13:12:03 GMT
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Another vote for number 2 lowlight.
Why modify a lowlight to look like a newer, more common car?
The very first photo in the thread had no rear side windows. I kind of liked the look of that, but would be painful to drive.
Could you convert this to ‘convertible’ in the eyes of the regulators and then have a ‘fixed’ hardtop? Or wouldn’t that save anything as you would still have to have the floor supports welded in by a certified welder?
Either way, I wish I had your courage and talent!
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Jul 29, 2022 18:14:15 GMT
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   At Hotrod Hayride today. May add ideas…… |
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Jul 29, 2022 21:45:11 GMT
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At Hotrod Hayride today. May add ideas…… Thanks, gives a good sense of what a shaved bonnet would look like. I like the idea of one as it is what Morris probably wanted before widening the car, but at the same time it is such an iconic detail |
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Jul 30, 2022 21:36:32 GMT
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Of all the grille options, the first is my favourite, the one where you can't see any headlights at all. It has Buick Y-Job overtones to it. Having the headlights completely hidden tidies up the front of the car so well, even having the sidlights on display in the grille works for the proportions at the front.  Shall be watching the evolution of this one with interest. |
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It's not far off is it? It'll look different in photos than in person so you'll have a better sense of it but at the moment it looks like your window line and roof line flow down to the rear wheel nicely and the rear deck doesn't look overly long in comparison to the bonnet. I can't imagine it'll need much of a roof chop at all to balance everything either, by not trying to fight the roundness of the Minor and working with it I expect it'll look more balanced. Some Minor chops end up looking mismatched because the roof line is too low and it makes the body look too short and fat to match.
The rear arches make a difference too being the bigger wheel opening type, they seem to make the rear look a bit longer and lighter and that I think is helping balance out your roof position.
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