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oldisbetter Part of things If it has a ECU it's complicated :) Posts: 478	Number plate rules?oldisbetter @oldisbetter
	Jun 22, 2022 22:46:52 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I recently purchased an 1953 car with a number plate from 1983 on it like A123ABC, the log book states it was built in 1953 but registered in 1983 i am guessing it was re-registered but there is nothing on the the new log book saying the number is non tranferable, anyone got information on how to find out?


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crockpot Posted a lot Posts: 1,408	Number plate rules?crockpot @crockpot
	Jun 23, 2022 7:29:36 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If it says nothing then it's transferable afaik. I have two that say non-transferable and one that says nothing (which I know is transferable).
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dragon Part of things Posts: 148	Number plate rules?dragon @dragon
	Jun 23, 2022 8:03:24 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If you are thinking of taking the plate off you might find its a paper exercise and not available online. You should then be allocated an age related number.


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TessierAshpool Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 507 Club RR Member Number: 168	Number plate rules?TessierAshpool @tessierashpool Club Retro Rides Member 168
	Jun 23, 2022 9:16:52 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If you're looking to take the number off, all the rules are at: www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registration-numbers/take-private-number-off The relevant criteria are: The vehicle must: - be registered with DVLA in the UK - be able to move under its own power - be of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate - be available for inspection - DVLA will contact you if they need to inspect your vehicle - have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years - be taxed currently or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN in place for more than 5 years, it must be taxed and have an MOT certificate If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs. If you're looking to change it from a 1983 to 1953 reg number, by getting DVLA to give you a 1953 number, that's a different process...
	Last Edit: Jun 23, 2022 9:19:22 GMT by TessierAshpool 2000 Lexus LS430 ~ 2001 Honda Civic EJ9 1.4

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oldisbetter Part of things If it has a ECU it's complicated :) Posts: 478	Number plate rules?oldisbetter @oldisbetter
	Jun 27, 2022 0:10:05 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	After reading up and trying to talk to a human i find it a pain that the vehicle was stored for 40 years so it has not been on a sorn, hard to sorn something for 5 years if it was not known about, the human kind of understood and said thats how it was but i was told to write a letter explaining my concerns.


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dodgerover Posted hell of a lot "These days turned out nothing like I had planned" Posts: 5,877	Number plate rules?dodgerover @dodgerover
	Jun 28, 2022 17:56:30 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	As far as I know vehicles which were not taxed before sorn came in do not need to be Sorn even after a change of keeper.
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TessierAshpool Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 507 Club RR Member Number: 168	Number plate rules?TessierAshpool @tessierashpool Club Retro Rides Member 168
	Jun 28, 2022 18:23:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jun 28, 2022 17:56:30 GMT dodgerover said: As far as I know vehicles which were not taxed before sorn came in do not need to be Sorn even after a change of keeper. Basically yes.If a vehicle has not been taxed at all since the SORN system was introduced, it exists in a legal limbo outside of the SORN rules. Any attempt to SORN it will fail (online and DVLA phone systems will accept the request, but will never action it). It is not possible to SORN a pre-SORN vehicle, until you tax it. The act of taxing it brings it in to the new legal remit, and from then on the vehicle must stay taxed or SORNd. This may work in the original poster's favour, as it is not possible to comply with the SORN side of the rules, as the vehicle is grandfathered in. Vehicles less than five years old obviously cannot comply either so the rules can clearly be bent!
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oldisbetter Part of things If it has a ECU it's complicated :) Posts: 478	Number plate rules?oldisbetter @oldisbetter
	Jul 2, 2022 0:50:43 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Amazingly the paper work asking me to sorn it turned up today lol


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TessierAshpool Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 507 Club RR Member Number: 168	Number plate rules?TessierAshpool @tessierashpool Club Retro Rides Member 168
	Jul 2, 2022 11:58:29 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 2, 2022 0:50:43 GMT oldisbetter said: Amazingly the paper work asking me to sorn it turned up today lol Yeah they'll send one out, freaked me out when I got one for my pre-SORN moped. Ended up phoning them up as the SORN wouldn't happen despite using the phone and online systems to SORN it. Got told over the phone by a manager that the letter sending system isn't intelligent enough to realise that it's not sornable and to ignore it...
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Ryannn Posted a lot Posts: 2,421	Number plate rules?Ryannn @blackbelt1990
	Jul 17, 2022 16:35:03 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	What are you trying to do with the plate? Take it off or get an age related one?
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oldisbetter Part of things If it has a ECU it's complicated :) Posts: 478	Number plate rules?oldisbetter @oldisbetter
	Jul 26, 2022 23:03:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 17, 2022 16:35:03 GMT Ryannn said: What are you trying to do with the plate? Take it off or get an age related one? Yes, the reg that is on is A reg as in A123ABC which is not correct for the car at all.


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TessierAshpool Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 507 Club RR Member Number: 168	Number plate rules?TessierAshpool @tessierashpool Club Retro Rides Member 168
	Jul 27, 2022 10:34:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	OK so it seems like you're actually trying to get a dateless (i.e. age appropriate) plate, rather than trying to keep the A plate? So you've got a few options: 1: Just buy a dateless plate and stick it on. Easy option, no need to grovel to DVLA, but likely to be costly to buy a dateless plate. DVLA sell AAA123 style plates for about £400. 2: Send a nice letter to the DVLA pointing out to them that back in 1983 they should have given the vehicle a dateless plate, and could they please do so now, as the V5C already shows a 1953 build date. 3: Essentially the same as option 2, but with a letter from an approved source giving proof of build date. 4: Pay the £80 transfer fee to put A123AAA on retention and see what plate they replace it with. No guarantees they will issue a new dateless plate, but there's a chance. Are you a gambling man?
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dragon Part of things Posts: 148	Number plate rules?dragon @dragon
	Jul 27, 2022 19:20:24 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	A dateless Irish registration from DVLA can start at £250 inclusive.


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oldisbetter Part of things If it has a ECU it's complicated :) Posts: 478	Number plate rules?oldisbetter @oldisbetter
	Jul 27, 2022 23:43:18 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thanks all good advice and i will try a nice letter, to be honest the number plate on the car now would be nice to keep as it had been a private plate even though it is just a standard A reg format, i know this is going to take a bit of time and effort but i will keep at ir for now.


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Pid363! Posted a lot Madness is all in the mind! Posts: 1,038	Number plate rules?Pid363! @pid363
	Jul 28, 2022 16:51:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Surley for it to be re registered in 83 it must of been te imported or no proof of when it was first registerd? I carnt remember what year but if the car wasn’t registered/tax etc when the DVLA went computerised it didn’t make it on to the system I was hard to get a log book ?


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TessierAshpool Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 507 Club RR Member Number: 168	Number plate rules?TessierAshpool @tessierashpool Club Retro Rides Member 168
	Jul 28, 2022 18:36:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 27, 2022 23:43:18 GMT oldisbetter said: Thanks all good advice and i will try a nice letter, to be honest the number plate on the car now would be nice to keep as it had been a private plate even though it is just a standard A reg format, i know this is going to take a bit of time and effort but i will keep at ir for now. If you're set on keeping the A plate anyway for another vehicle (or to sell), I'd start with option 4, otherwise you risk DVLA just binning the A plate if you ask them to give you an age appropriate one.
	Last Edit: Jul 28, 2022 18:37:09 GMT by TessierAshpool 2000 Lexus LS430 ~ 2001 Honda Civic EJ9 1.4

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dragon Part of things Posts: 148	Number plate rules?dragon @dragon
	Jul 29, 2022 8:39:03 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Back in the day if a vehicle came in from overseas it was allocated that years registration letter. So 83 A.


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