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Has anyone here successfully converted a central heating boiler to run on waste oil. With the ever rising cost of kerosene and a steady supply of waste engine oil I'm strongly considering trying it. Seen this setup on Aliexpress  |
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its basically illegal, I wouldn't want to use one due to all the nasties that come from waste oil burning over straight clean fuel.
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Is that the law in the UK or worldwide? I'm based in Ireland. With the rising costs of fuels governments can't blame people for looking for alternatives, losing out on further taxes is all they're concerned with.
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Feb 23, 2022 13:21:16 GMT
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Illegal in the UK for sure but the legislation is most likely a copy paste from the EU so likely there too. If you are out in the sticks I can't see how anyone could be caught unless you get dobbed in, set up correctly there is no reason for a plume of black smoke, there is obviously pollution but if running correctly it should be invisible to the naked eye during the day. I have collected all the bits to make a Babington waste oil burner but not yet got round to the build.
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slater
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Feb 23, 2022 14:34:23 GMT
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I think you will struggle to get a modern central heating boiler to run on it. Old skool oil burners can be tweaked tho.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:58:29 GMT
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I plan on building one first and trial running it in my workshop, the design can be adjusted/tweaked then afterwards
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Feb 23, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
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How long has that been a ‘thing’ then? I’ve got two separate mates who run garages/mot stations & they both still use waste oil burners. Surely there must be hundreds of thousands of garages throughout the land using them
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Feb 23, 2022 17:13:38 GMT
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2016, I've heard Insurance is a problem with the garage type too.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:29:54 GMT
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How long has that been a ‘thing’ then? I’ve got two separate mates who run garages/mot stations & they both still use waste oil burners. Surely there must be hundreds of thousands of garages throughout the land using them Its been the case for a while however as always it comes down to who is assigned to police it. Here in France there are thousands of stupid laws that have been made that initially make the headlines then slowly get ignored as no official function is assigned the responsibility to police them. Examples, swimming pool alarms, alco tests in cars, red triangles carried in car, yellow vests in car, bonfires, noise on a sunday on and on the list goes, most of which is ignored by the populous. |
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Feb 23, 2022 17:57:09 GMT
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Feb 23, 2022 17:59:15 GMT
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Thought as much, so not illegal in the slightest then |
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Feb 23, 2022 20:08:32 GMT
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I know a couple of commercial garages that have water oil burners, they're always toasty warm. I did wonder about converting my solid fuel burner in a previous house to run on it, but thought my other half would never get the hang of it.
With the kit in the picture though I can't see the ignition system working unless you are running a separate fuel for ignition?
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Last Edit: Feb 23, 2022 20:10:16 GMT by dodgerover
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Feb 23, 2022 20:35:50 GMT
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I know a couple of commercial garages that have water oil burners, they're always toasty warm. I did wonder about converting my solid fuel burner in a previous house to run on it, but thought my other half would never get the hang of it. With the kit in the picture though I can't see the ignition system working unless you are running a separate fuel for ignition? From what I can tell the waste oil needs to be pre-heated to 90-100°c and with the use of compressed air and the syphon nozzle it atomizes/ignites. |
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Feb 23, 2022 20:37:34 GMT
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That about sums it up; illegal unless you pay a substantial upfront fee and ongoing yearly bung. Very "Green Agenda" |
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Feb 24, 2022 10:57:55 GMT
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The permit is like 4 grand so basically just a tax on it.
Not worth it for small scale operators.
With all the Russian gas drying up it's probably still a good idea tho.
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Feb 24, 2022 12:24:06 GMT
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Many years ago we burnt all sorts of waste oil at work to heat the boilers, large industrial ones.
Its not rocket science I seem to remember you could buy a garage heater a bit bigger than an oil drum that would burn all day on used engine oil the local garages had them
The smoke shouldn't be an issue if set up correctly and just using engine oil, some commercial burners have another burner in the chimney that heats the stack to about 800 from memory? this drastically reduced the emissions.
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Feb 24, 2022 22:37:51 GMT
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I know a couple of commercial garages that have water oil burners, they're always toasty warm. I did wonder about converting my solid fuel burner in a previous house to run on it, but thought my other half would never get the hang of it. With the kit in the picture though I can't see the ignition system working unless you are running a separate fuel for ignition? From what I can tell the waste oil needs to be pre-heated to 90-100°c and with the use of compressed air and the syphon nozzle it atomizes/ignites. Once it's going it's usually attached so it pre heats itself. I would be interested to see a video of it in operation. |
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Mar 10, 2022 14:38:37 GMT
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Check out Turbo Conquering Mega Eagle on Youtube. He built a waste oil heater that is really rather clever, plus a host of other stuff including an underground bunker - still in build stage. Amuses the hell out of me. A few years back I made a waste oil heater for the garden using the old 'blower' from an oil central heating burner. Ran really well, very, very hot but was too noisy too use when you had company over. P.  |
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