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Ok lets make another thread VW t2 thread is settling down there is lot of pics to catch up but now Bedford Couple of years was looking project what could say father son project looked different rides old mitsbishis L200 L300 VW T3 Old Volvos 200...300...400..700 series and so on sometimes also Bedford vans and trucks when i was young then we had Bedford CF2 in our family i was driving with that and made my first crash with that and .... now one spring day in 2021 saw ad but not in Estonia but in Finland old CF - ugly orange but mostly complete.  |
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on the pics all looked promising. all looked to be in place and no holes to see through van. but there was a but i was in Estonia van was in Finland ok to get Finland is 50 miles by ferry and ok van was from Helsinki another 400 miles by car but there was that covid problem. i had another chance. call it secret weapon, my brother lives in Finland i got him agreed to go and see it. He is car guy and i trust him. After some time he called and says that looks like in pics. pretty solid no holes and all pits and pcs are there. so we made a deal and in July 2021 was first part of transport  |
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some time it stayed in my brother place in Finland when now in January 2022 was hauled to my garage   |
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let see what i got old diesel engine 2.0L that wont start   inside   cargo area with not so good front doors, and one set of wheels and removed passengers seat.   |
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decoded vin plate gives info that
short wheelbase van with GM diesel engine
1979 production year, Luton plant
bus is for Finland market
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High capacity heater
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Brake load conscious (sensing) valve
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Rake adjustable driver seat
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Fit heavy duty front springs
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now this project is on hold
garage is without heater we have winter here - cold and snow.
ordered some parts from e-bay and waiting them
making plans what to do with engine and gearbox
old one is lack of power anyway and not starting
gearbox is slow 4.gear 1:1 ratio
looking for donor
diesel, 4 cylinders, around 100kw, RWD, manual gearbox with final gear around 0.8...0.7
Transit van, Vito/Sprinter some other MB or BMW or Ford or ...
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Fond memories of these, back in the day when we travelled in the back sat on the spare wheel  Will look forward to updates First thought is the Isuzu 1.7td fitted to Astras and Cavaliers, I fitted one in my Astravan, and know that they are often mated to rwd boxes but no experience of that sorry. But 82hp standard, and easy pump mods for more with mechanical pump etc Edit: just realised that 82hp is only 62kw, so a fair bit less than you were looking for, sorry |
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I used to work at a Bedford dealer in 78-82 and ordered the Cf vans. Standard factory diesel in UK at that time was a gutless perkins. Everything else was petrol, either 1.8 slant 4 for 18cwt version or 2.3 slant 4 for 22cwt.
Very few diesels were sold here because the Perkins was dog slow and majority of diesel vehicles in UK were all trucks and buses in those days. Colour is factory Cargo Orange.
That may be a more modern replacement or a market specific spec looking at it. Perhaps its from another rear drive GM product such as Rekord ?
My mate had one with a Rover V8 fitted, just saying.........
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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end of the day there is no different is there Perkins or GM
anyway gearbox last ratio is 1:1 and rear diff is 37/7 or 37/8 what makes it like 5,2 or 4,6
it gives us feeling that if you put brick on gas pedal and drive 4. gear
there is screaming engine like 4k rpm. and speed is under 60 mph.
i cant fit there bigger engine
1. i don't want to make major bodywork
2. and more important i cant exceed front axle weight
3. i like to keep it simple and reasonable for young guy
was looking diesel engine MB om611? from small car and from sprinter van i saw that van engine is more narrow at the top
we are looking forward
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Last Edit: Feb 7, 2022 6:43:30 GMT by MeelisV
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Some parts.  |
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Feb 10, 2022 12:21:38 GMT
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Next idea
Vw 1.9 tdi engine
Vw syncro / 4wd gearbox with welded diff and removed front driveshafts so made rwd box.
How this sounds ?
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Davey
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Feb 10, 2022 12:37:35 GMT
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Feb 10, 2022 13:16:54 GMT
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Next idea Vw 1.9 tdi engine Vw syncro / 4wd gearbox with welded diff and removed front driveshafts so made rwd box. How this sounds ? Wouldn't a vw LT or crafter engine / gearbox work more easily ? Nice find OP, watching developments with interest. James |
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Next idea Vw 1.9 tdi engine Vw syncro / 4wd gearbox with welded diff and removed front driveshafts so made rwd box. How this sounds ? What box does the Amarok use, and are there any in scrappies yet? I've heard of folk using them to put VR6s into 924s... |
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Or BMW or Mercedes 4cyl engine and box?
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Bmw engines are wide in top.
Mb passenger car engines too.
Bedford engine bay is narrow in top.
My vw idea is from Passat b5 and with 4motion.
It is longitudinal engine and box
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Feb 11, 2022 10:59:59 GMT
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very torquey engine so needs a strong box, BMW diesel, mercedes etc should do it but will need adaptor
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glenanderson
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Feb 11, 2022 11:52:31 GMT
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I would have thought a RWD Transit, Iveco, LT or Sprinter engine and gearbox would be best.
Failing that, rather than trying to make a 4WD gearbox 2WD, particularly complicated VAG group stuff, I’d pick the engine I wanted, the gearbox I wanted, and I’d make them fit together.
I understand that you are limited by what is available locally, and what you have to hand. There’s going to be the added complication of getting the gear-lever far enough forward too, whichever option you go for.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Feb 11, 2022 12:09:38 GMT
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probably easier to chop the engine bay a little and fit a complete BMW engine/box, but change the cam chain before it snaps, if using a 4 cylinder
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thomfr
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Feb 11, 2022 12:32:37 GMT
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That is really a minimalistic dashboard!
Love the whole van!
Thom
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