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There isn't really a plan yet, but stripping filler off is free and I'm waiting until the end of the month for more cash, so I guess I'll continue. I think I should have been an archaeologist, it's really interesting stripping back the layers and making discoveries. This is an hour or so of filler removal this morning   One thing that was bothering me were the swage lines below the rear side windows. They just weren't right, despite looking at loads of Taft pictures. I eventually found the original panel under the filler and it pretty much tied in with the filler profile. Off to do a bit of digging and found this  So the rear screen and swage lines are from a sj410! The bit below the swage lines wheel arch area / sill is 'custom', the rear doors and frame are original and there are various infill patches taking up the extra spaces. Most panels have some degree of warpage from welding I can only say that you are a brave man But the reward lies in completing this build. Subscribed. |
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Nov 20, 2021 14:37:22 GMT
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Don't expect xk120 levels of metal work!
I was looking at sj's when I found this, so I guess I've got 2 vehicles for the price of one.
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Nov 21, 2021 15:10:04 GMT
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The fillerthon continues  Both sides now pretty much done including the sills and A posts and they're a mirror of each other. The roof has been replaced, but not as you would expect, by unpicking the seam etc, but by cutting it off about an inch below the seam at the sides and welding it back onto the other body, front and rear of the roof were cut above the seam and overlapped onto the old roof, hence loads of filler there. The SJ rear panel is slightly convex and the Taft panels are flat, so loads of filler was used here to build everything up to the highest point.  Then there are various areas of warpage which have taken loads of filler to rectify and mostly just badly fitted DIY repair panels. Looking at some original Taft pictures it seems like there are a few seams visible which were probably spot welded originally.  The wouldn't have helped with rust, but could be a good option combined with panel bond which would cut down on welding distortion, but that stuff is expensive and I don't know that I can make the edges machine straight. I'll still have to do some welding anyway. At the moment thinking of sorting out the curve in the windows and cutting the SJ panel out above the swage line and making a new panel similar to original to let in. Probably make new sills too. I'm not worried about an original restoration, and the odd age related dent, so long as it looks decent and doesn't bleed rust through in a few years. My biggest worry is warping when welding. |
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Nov 21, 2021 17:30:55 GMT
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They’ve really gone to great lengths to keep this alive. You’ve got to thank them for that. The rarity of these at least means not many are going to moan about originality. How many of us spotted the SJ sides? Looking forward to the updates.
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Nov 25, 2021 23:03:04 GMT
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What's parts availability like for these? (Though i'm currently in NZ so not exactly the same scenario). I might be about to buy one...
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Almost non existent in the UK, although they seem to have sold more or more have survived in Aus, so you may have better luck down there. Also seem to be quite popular in Indonesia.
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Dec 15, 2021 17:17:14 GMT
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Right, as per normal, I've done what I said I wouldn't and that's weigh the filler. It was building up and easy to separate, so basically this is the rear panels and sills, don't think it includes the windscreen frame.  Yes, 10kg! Decided I needed a bead roller, so got one of the cheapo Chinese jobs, £120 to my door and I've set too modifying it. The motor turned up today (24v parvalux geared motor, 6.5rpm and I'm adding a cheapo speed controller and foot switch) , so the last job is to mount that and paint it. Also turned another couple of dollies and polished some of the included ones. They seem pretty round, couple of minor nicks in the surface   |
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Dec 15, 2021 17:32:44 GMT
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Made some space around the bulkhead and started making some repair panels, very basic at the moment, but they're almost ready to be let in, just waiting on the bead roller so I can do the bulkhead patch   Removed and stripped the dash. It's originally spot welded to the body, most of my spot welds were missing and it was rusty on the corners, so I've cut it out and will make it bolt in with some rivnuts I think. Cut out and welded in new corners  Today I decided to experiment with the windscreen corners, or just one to be precise. Just used the techniques I've seen fitzee use and made them out of 4 pieces of sheet, welded together, the only bending I did was between my hands  Close, but not perfect, difficult to shape the weld back down, I might invest in a finger belt sander. Its difficult to see, but there is a double angle which might prevent this being done in a shrinker / stretcher. |
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Decided I needed a bead roller, so got one of the cheapo Chinese jobs, £120 to my door and I've set too modifying it. The motor turned up today (24v parvalux geared motor, 6.5rpm and I'm adding a cheapo speed controller and foot switch) , so the last job is to mount that and paint it. Also turned another couple of dollies and polished some of the included ones. They seem pretty round, couple of minor nicks in the surface Phenomenal scope creep! I applaud you. |
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Dec 16, 2021 13:50:34 GMT
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One of my obsessions over the last month has been trying to find some overfenders for the Taft, plenty in Indonesia, but their sales sites say they won't ship outside the country. I messaged a few sellers directly and one eventually came back saying he could help.  I think these look pretty good and they're only listed for about £55 in Indonesia, I thought postage might be the same again, but the seller came back with a total price of a shade over £800! It would literally be cheaper fo get a return flight and pick them up (£500) I double checked and for me to send a similar sized parcel there with parcel force would be £120. Needless to say, that won't be happening. I think FJ40 flares will fit, but they seem rediculously expensive  That leaves sj410 flares which I'm not really keen on, but they're £160. Most seem to be 6" wide which would be too big, but a few people do a 4" version  I reckon I've looked at every possible overfender out there, making some is way, way beyond my skill level Any thoughts? |
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Dec 20, 2021 15:26:50 GMT
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Using my phenomenal photo chopping skills (ms Paint) I've ruled out the SJ fenders, they're the wrong profile and a bit too small. Current favourite is FJ40, but ££  Tried Jeep TJ OE arches, but not quite right  |
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One of my obsessions over the last month has been trying to find some overfenders for the Taft, plenty in Indonesia, but their sales sites say they won't ship outside the country. I messaged a few sellers directly and one eventually came back saying he could help. I think these look pretty good and they're only listed for about £55 in Indonesia, I thought postage might be the same again, but the seller came back with a total price of a shade over £800! It would literally be cheaper fo get a return flight and pick them up (£500) I double checked and for me to send a similar sized parcel there with parcel force would be £120. Needless to say, that won't be happening. That daihatsu above looks realy good. I would persevere with the ones that look the best as above. Surely there must be a cost effective way to ship from Indonesia. I order mahindra parts on ebay with free shipping from india; something to do with export via drop delivery from a developing country. Daan |
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There is a gentleman on YouTube- Old Guys Workshop, who is making panels for a Suzuki LJ80. I’ve only watched episode 6 (I don’t know why), but he’s making complete wings etc. Worth a watch for some ideas as from what I can see of the vehicle, it’s quite similar in construction. Can you post a link to this? I’ve searched YouTube but can’t find it Thanks pptomLoving this project, but have a question, all of the other pictures seem to show Taft’s with a hinged windscreen panel but yours seems to be fixed, has this just been bodged in the past or is yours different? God luck with the project |
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Dec 21, 2021 13:00:21 GMT
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I watched a couple of the old guys garage ones, but his YouTube account seems to have gone missing a few weeks ago.
As for the hinged windscreen, yes mine is fixed
It's also missing the cabin vent in the middle, but that panel (scuttle ?) Its about the only part that's been fabricated really well, so it's staying
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Dec 21, 2021 13:02:47 GMT
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Saw that, think mine probably looked like that at some point in its past! If I had the space and money it might be handy for some bits and bobs, but then if I had the space it would be full of future projects anyway |
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Dec 21, 2021 13:14:50 GMT
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I know, its my preferred option, but the shopping websites they all use require an Indonesian address and phone number to even log in, plus it's generally unsecured bank transfers, so relying on honest people, all the sellers are generally one man bands who somehow have moulds and make the parts out of fibreglass, many use the same pictures too. What I really need is someone who lives there. I also contacted a proper company in Malaysia who said they can post, but not 'fenders' because of the pandemic !?
If any came up on eBay worldwide, I'd jump on them.
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Dec 21, 2021 20:43:25 GMT
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There is a gentleman on YouTube- Old Guys Workshop, who is making panels for a Suzuki LJ80. I’ve only watched episode 6 (I don’t know why), but he’s making complete wings etc. Worth a watch for some ideas as from what I can see of the vehicle, it’s quite similar in construction. Can you post a link to this? I’ve searched YouTube but can’t find it Thanks pptomLoving this project, but have a question, all of the other pictures seem to show Taft’s with a hinged windscreen panel but yours seems to be fixed, has this just been bodged in the past or is yours different? God luck with the project Sorry fat frankly, but as pptom reports, his account is no longer there. |
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Dec 24, 2021 13:02:17 GMT
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Bead roller is done and I picked up a cheapo shrinker / stretcher, so with all the gear and no idea I set upon the windscreen frame corners. Behold the box of broken dreams  I was wasting metal at a fair rate, but hopefully learning a tiny amount each time. Eventually on this morning's 3rd attempt I produced something that could be welded in, albeit with a skim of filler.  Bouyed, I thought I was on a roll, so did the opposite corner which didn't quite go as well, but still should be fine  Once the inner curve is formed, you can't get the stretcher in, so I've been pre-stretching it which is a bit of guesswork. Also made plenty of use of my £2 car boot snap on panel hammer and scavenged Railtrack anvil. Hoping the bottom corners are a bit easier as the curve isn't quite so tight. |
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