Kitcar engine swap v5c notification

cymeticvibe Kinda New Posts: 1	Kitcar engine swap v5c notification cymeticvibe @cymeticvibe
	Oct 21, 2021 22:43:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi all, can anyone in the know advise me please... I have an correctly registered 1980s kit car that is currently SORN ( it’s a non Q plate) . I’m in the process of swapping the engine 3.5 rover V8 to a 3.9 rover V8. ( using the original LT77 gearbox still). I've been reading some of the posts on here and it looks like I might have to provide proof of the ‘new’ V8s origin when I notify the change on the v5c. I bought the replacement engine as ‘good used’ back in early 1990s and it has sat in the garage since waiting for me to get around to the swap. I have a signed and dated receipt from the seller (eBay) but nothing more than that. My question is, next year I can apply for historic vehicle status and the mot exemption; is it better to submit the change now or after the car is recognised as a historic vehicle? ( got the impression I don’t need to provide evidence for the latter, but would automatically lose the no mot status, which I don’t mind as I prefer the reassurance of an MOT anyway). Thanks in advance for any advice/clarity.


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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,886 Club RR Member Number: 71 Member is Online	Kitcar engine swap v5c notification bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Oct 22, 2021 0:06:17 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Isn't the 3.9 a bored or a bored and stroked 3.5? The architecture is the same anyway With the DVLA rules on engine swaps as I understand it it's a bit of a PITA - need a receipt not only for the Engine but also from the fitting garage and the DVLA get really "computer says no" about this stuff I'm not saying this is what I would do but a suggestion might be Grind off the new engine number and stamp it with your old one and then send off the reg doc with the new cc Or change the engine number first for the new one and then later change the cc


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mk2cossie Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,948 Club RR Member Number: 77	Kitcar engine swap v5c notification mk2cossie @mk2cossie Club Retro Rides Member 77
	Oct 22, 2021 6:46:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I had no problems when I changed my engine number and cc on the mk2. Although that was many years ago I also thought kitcars weren't able to apply for historic vehicle status
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Darkspeed Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 4,681 Club RR Member Number: 39	Kitcar engine swap v5c notification Darkspeed @darkspeed Club Retro Rides Member 39
	Oct 22, 2021 7:34:43 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Oct 22, 2021 6:46:47 GMT mk2cossie said: I also thought kitcars weren't able to apply for historic vehicle status They can be Tax classed as Historic on the 40 year rule - but not the MOT exemption part as the car has been substantially changed from its original state. The exception to this is if the Kit was built from the donor over 30 years ago. So a 1990 kit build using a 1980 or older donor vehicle gets both. Although I still do not get why anyone would drive about in a 40 years old + car without an annual inspection costing less than a tank of fuel. From the .GOV "Eligibility You do not need to get an MOT if the vehicle was first registered more than 40 years ago and no ‘substantial changes’ have been made to the vehicle in the last 30 years. This includes vehicles previously exempted on the basis of being first registered before 1960. Different rules apply to large vehicles. Whether or not you are exempt your vehicle must be roadworthy and you may wish to voluntarily undertake an MOT test anyway. What ‘substantial changes’ means A vehicle alteration is a ‘substantial change’ if the technical characteristics of the main components have changed in the previous 30 years, unless these fall into the acceptable alterations category. Full guidance relating to substantial changes was published following the announcement of changes to the MOT regime for vehicles of historic interest." For example my Gemini is on a 1976 Escort donor manufactured date so is Tax Exempt - As it was built in 2003 it has no right to MOT exemption. A way to check - on a correctly registered kit - is the Date of manufacture determines the Tax status and the date of registration determines the MOT exemption. From the .Gov Vehicle Details Vehicle make AUTO TUNE GEMINI Date of first registration September 2003 Year of manufacture 1976 Cylinder capacity 1599 cc CO₂ emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL As for the engine change info for the OP - Fill out the forms providing the info required and send it off.
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