elfman
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Oct 30, 2021 13:29:25 GMT
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A 2 post lift would be perfect as long as the cables etc were above and not across on the floor, anything over 60mm in Height is an issue as my whole car has less than 70mm ground clearance max, the front splinter and under tray and rear diffuses are 60mm so i would have to build not only blocks but complete 10ft runners to get the car level as it could not straddle anything higher than 60 to 70mm.....even removing all the undertrays wont gain me more than a few mm. With the quickjacks i only have to roll the car into 4 blocks/plates of around 20 to 25mm and then slide the jacks between the wheels. So far it does seem to be the jacking system with the best ground clearance and the quickest to use, not counting a 2 post lift which I sadly don't have room for.. it does look a clever idea but the twin Busch unless i sunk it into the floor would be totally unsuitable as its too high for my needs plus for £3000 i would definitely go for full 2 post lift if i had the room. So less then £1000 and easy to use and store compared to £3000 with added complications I think i know what I'm going for but thanks for everyone's advice and input
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elfman
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I was talking to my friend who runs a small garage and have used his 2 post lift many times and I showed him the Twin Busch and he might get one for his garage as he liked the idea of it not being a permanent fixer taking up space and also have 2 lifts available... win win He did ask how steady it was so i showed him the reports on here....thanks again I'm off to find the nearest Costco for my quickjacklift ;o)
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Oct 31, 2021 11:02:53 GMT
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I use mine regularly - and apart from being too wide for the 900, it's a godsend for replacing handbrake cables on the 9000. You need a very good drill though - Has to be over 65nm torque. Cheapest I found was the dewalt. get two batteries. Another minor issue is the weight. I can just about move it around. It's easy to move in one direction and not the other, so I will be welding on some more wheels to help. Get hold of more spring clips - they are on all the moving parts and the ones supplied just fall off.... It's the safest I have felt working underneath a car.
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Some 9000's, a 900, an RX8 & a beetle
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Oct 31, 2021 12:11:41 GMT
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One thing to bear in mind in a few of the options (the 1 poster) will be some jobs very awkward, like exhausts, clutches on RWD cars etc. This is one problem I've seen with the cheaper frame types, which have ruled them out for me. I'll be checking out a few of the comms later. I like the QuikJack. The one thing I don't like is the lack of height. Then again, if they go slightly higher than axle stands, I guess a clutch on my M3 is possible .
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has anyone any experience of the width adjustable tilters? They look ok for the money but the one as shown above is too wide for the scimitar chassis rails. Mind you it may be unstable at the narrow point too
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I don't have experience, but the spec for the CJ tilter does say it can be adjusted to three different widths. I keep meaning to measure the distance between the chassis rails on the various cars I want it for, as I don't want to jack them up on the sills. The link I posted earlier was the non-adjustable one, for the relatively small extra I think I'd prefer this one: cjautosheywood.co.uk/product/3in1-tilting-adjustable-car-lift-2-ton-cl01-2/
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seems a lot of money for what it is though can pick up a used 2 poster for similar money or less. I seen a 3 poster locally for £350
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I'd like a proper lift, but my shed doesn't really have the right "shape" for a lift in that it'd be in the way a lot of the time - especially at the moment as I have an extra car in there (though I do appreciate I could stick one car up on the lift and park another underneath). The scissor lift or some of the other solutions on here can be put out of the way when not in use. There's also no ongoing maintenance as there would be with a lift.
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The only downside I noted was that it was far too wide for a vw beetle, and the saab 900 you need to take a bit more time lining it up as the sills sit further in than other cars. Mine was £299 delivered from garageequipment.co.uk but they went up in price during the Panda. Not had anything slide on the feet, and slips nicely under both cars. Both cars I have used this on have been lowered and the lift fully flat is 140mm high. Occasional use of a trolley jack helps get the lift to clear the exhaust. Awkward or damn near impossible to use on slim driveways. Thankfully my drive is wide enough, but I didn't consider this. You can't drive over it - it must slide under the car from the side. Not portable despite saying so. It's luggable. If you have soft or old tarmac it will churn it up. The best setup for one of these would be to sit it in a recess in the garage floor along with a powerful starter motor. A metal box is supplied to mount an electric motor in which then can do the hard work for you. It would probably need to be a truck/large van as I tried to fabricate one from a 9000 starter but it didn't turn it. I thought my old drill would lift it but it couldn't. finding one that was no more than £120 with two batteries & 65nm torque was harder than expected & an eye opener. I bought millwalkie, hitachi, makita, ryobi drills that all failed miserably - Thankfully screwfix didn't mind me bringing them back, the only one was a DeWalt DCD796 with two 4ah batteries. To lift, you do need a full battery. The drill will stop in cold weather but starts again after a few seconds. The body of the drill bends but once it is over the hardest part of the raise it's fine. The makita had smoke coming out of it, as did the hitachi. Milwalkie didn't touch it. The hardest part of purchasing this lift was the not considered added expense of a drill but glad I got it. It used a 13mm alan key stub and comes with a hand crank which is more of a test of your own HE-MAN endurance than an effective method of lifting. It is moveable but not easy. The wheels are more to help the movement of the lift than to help you move it. putting more wheels on it to make it easier to move when vertical. One unexpected benefit was on my 900 where I lifted it up just where the centre of balance was. I could lift up the front of the car and it would then land on the rear wheels, and vice versa. It has a small pole for locking into position once under the car. One unexpected problem was scratching the front bumper on tarmac at certain angles. It's exactly the same as the sealey model which is around £650. Max lifting weight is 1.5t & the 9000 is slightly over that but it's not causing any issues. It so very much beats axle stands, ramps etc & is far, far safer.
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Thanks for that - interesting to hear another view. Do you happen to have a more detailed link to the product you bought on that site, as I can't find it (unless I'm looking for the wrong thing). Everything they have seems to be a lot more expensive.
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Nov 11, 2021 19:19:48 GMT
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not so easy digging out the ground to fit it, I think Id need a stick of dynamite to blast the rock out
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Dec 15, 2021 13:31:20 GMT
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On the one hand I'm tempted to look around Ali, Banggood and so on to try to buy on of these scissor lifts directly and save a bit, but on the other I am reminded that my cheap steel nibbler fell to pieces (literally - the bearings dropped apart) after cutting a couple of feet of steel.
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elfman
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Look again its far from easy to set into the floor as those rams go down quite a depth plus another problem is its 3 Phase how many domestic garages have 3 phase ? This would be a big job to fit in a domestic garage. But a nice bit of kit for a professional outfit. The short 2 post does look good, almost too good for the price but does tick a lot of boxes but could take up a lot of room even in a double garage. I've come to the conclusion there is not an ideal solution so what ever i get its going to be a compromise in some way or another. Thanks again for all the info
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Look again its far from easy to set into the floor as those rams go down quite a depth plus another problem is its 3 Phase how many domestic garages have 3 phase ? This would be a big job to fit in a domestic garage. But a nice bit of kit for a professional outfit. The short 2 post does look good, almost too good for the price but does tick a lot of boxes but could take up a lot of room even in a double garage. I've come to the conclusion there is not an ideal solution so what ever i get its going to be a compromise in some way or another. Thanks again for all the info 3 phase can be created from a single phase supply using a converter, or the motor can be changed for a single phase one. Another option can be the single post lifts which you can put near a wall to release extra space Ttfn Glenn
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elfman
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I know I'm a spark by trade but its more work and more expense. As i said unless you have a lot of space any fixed lift is going to take up valuable room even in a double garage. The single post lifts and have a way to high ground clearance for me to use. I think a portable lift of some kind is still the most practicable as it can be used either side of the garage and stored away. I had a lovely pit in my last garage 10 ft long but when I built this one the water table was way to high, i would be constantly pumping it out, a neighbor fitted a waterproof tank in his pit only to find it floating 3ft above the ground level one day...lol Lucky his car was not over it. I also had a friend who fitted a 4 post lift outside his house. But i think my wife would not be happy with that ;0)
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Saying about a four poster outside, reminded me of someone who created some sort of lifting shed on a four poster, when down, it was a garage, when raised the shed went up with the lift Ttfn Glenn
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