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I'm thinking about buying a Land Rover Discovery and have been looking at the td5 specifically. I know most of the common problems that come with them, but looking at most for sale they seem to be automatic. Are the auto boxes on these any good?
Also looking at other 90s 4x4s and quite like the Isuzu Trooper does anyone know what these are like to own? Think it's the 3.0 Diesel one i've been looking at. Or are there any other 90s 4x4s that are worth looking at?
Cheers
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Rich
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Discovery 2 or equivalent 90s 4x4 Rich
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I'm thinking about buying a Land Rover Discovery and have been looking at the td5 specifically. I know most of the common problems that come with them, but looking at most for sale they seem to be automatic. Are the auto boxes on these any good? Also looking at other 90s 4x4s and quite like the Isuzu Trooper does anyone know what these are like to own? Think it's the 3.0 Diesel one i've been looking at. Or are there any other 90s 4x4s that are worth looking at? Cheers Seeing as all the options rust like mad, and you haven’t specifically said you need a massive truck with separate chassis, have you looked at the Jeep Cherokee XJ? Drives much more like a car, is just as capable as the discovery with a lot more toys for tour money. Granted the prices are getting higher nowadays, they still represent great value I feel for what you get. I’d personally avoid the facelift due to potential immo issues as the early >96 models are electronically simple. Floors like to rust but no worse than the equivalent Landrover or Isuzu. |
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Forgot about the Cherokee XJ what are the engines like on them are there any to avoid? or does that not apply to the earlier models
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Rich
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Discovery 2 or equivalent 90s 4x4 Rich
@foxmcintyre
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Forgot about the Cherokee XJ what are the engines like on them are there any to avoid? or does that not apply to the earlier models Depends what you want really, no engine choose is better than the other to be honest. The 2.5 petrol is a 4 litre missing 2 cylinders and a bit of go, tops 25mpg. Bonus to this is the ‘sport’ is usually a manual, but you lose a lot of spec. The 4 litre is the big daddy motor, the one you want ideally. Available in ‘sport’ sparse trim but usually ‘limited’ with all the toys, normally coupled to an Asin AW4 auto 4 speed which is a good robust transmission. Again, tops 25 to the gallon on a run, I’ve seen close to the dealer quoted max 27 though. Diesels are a 2.5 VM, as used in the Range Rover etc, no idea what they are like but it’s 4 litre for me as it’s just effortless. Rarely needs any throttle input about a quarter and it’s a great sounding long lived engine if you keep on top of maintenance on them. |
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Sept 4, 2021 10:04:07 GMT
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Having owned both a 3.0D Trooper auto and now owning a Discovery 2 TD5 auto I much preferred the Trooper, far superior in build, comfy, went like a rocket but the 3.0D is a very complicated engine, it has 2 oil pumps one of which operates the fuel injectors and they do have many problems with the injectors/oil pumps/various sensors
The TD5 in comparison is agricultural, noisy, slow, thirsty complete with poor build quality, but you can buy everything to fix it and you will have to fix it!
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sdkrc
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Sept 27, 2021 10:10:58 GMT
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I daily a disco 2 td5 auto and it is absolutely the dumbest auto box I've ever used.
Foot down pulling out of a junction? Let's try the highest available gear.
The bad build quality is charming though. I absolutely do not care about breaking a damned thing on it and it has held up remarkably well. Driving position and view from the cabin is unmatched. The amount of room inside is insane.
My dad has a Jeep XJ 2.5td and it is a hateful thing. Very small inside, makes the disco seem refined. I'm not a fan. The 4 litre petrol, while more expensive is the one to go for. Fast and feels like a car, great for towing allegedly
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Last Edit: Sept 27, 2021 10:11:43 GMT by sdkrc
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Sept 30, 2021 7:18:53 GMT
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I have a 95 series landcruiser cost me £2350 and its a million times better than the TD5 i owned. Just as good on road as offroad. TD5 Disco to is a right big with all sorts of issues including autobox problems when the modules become faulty. Not to mention oil that runs down looms and ECU's in engine bays.
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MonzaPhil
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Sept 30, 2021 11:53:51 GMT
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The D2 autobox isn't clever but it is robust. Build quality is typical Land Rover, personally for reliability and longevity I wouldn't buy a TD5 hence dailying a 300tdi which is slow and uneconomical I guess but it has character and durability.
Mrs Monzaphil is using a TD5 auto at the moment and I'm dreading the phone call of breakydownyness every day, also just purchased a manual one just for the body but it was a £50 MOT fix so will press it into use until it dies horribly, which it inevitably will. Personally I wouldn't have a manual D2.
4x4 of choice would be a G-wagen or even a nice RR Classic V8 but my wallet is not big enough for either.
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Sept 30, 2021 15:34:22 GMT
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I had a feeling the autobox wouldn't be great, so i was on the look out for a manual if i go down the discovery route. I expect i will have to fix a land rover at some point so this wont be my main mode of transport anyway.
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After owning many, many both auto and manual D1, D2, petrol and diesel, I would choose an auto any day regardless of the silliness of the shifting. The D2 autobox is cleverer to a small degree but sadly still has the rest of a D2 attached to it. Basically, build it how you want it to get what you need.
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