dazaaa
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Jul 30, 2021 19:43:33 GMT
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Just got back from a nice trip to Wales and noticed a knocking sound from the truck. Passenger rear wheel is wobbling all over the place, one stud is completely gone and the rest are all turning by hand and very loose. Very scary considering i'd just done 230 miles down the motorway... So how on earth do I go about fixing this? The studs are turning with the nuts so I can't see how to even get the wheel off to investigate. Once the wheel is off will I simply need to hammer in a new set of studs or could the hub itself be damaged? It's my (painfully expensive to run) daily driver so I need to sort it quick!    |
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2021 19:46:56 GMT by dazaaa
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Jul 30, 2021 19:47:11 GMT
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Worst case scenario is you'll need a new hub and studs/nuts. Removal should be easy enough if you can lever the wheel whilst you're undoing them, preferably use a windy gun to undo them.
Has it gouged the wheel holes?
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2021 19:48:07 GMT by xbl
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Jul 30, 2021 20:01:03 GMT
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Yep, you'll need to wheel off to see what's going on.
The studs have probably come loose from the hub. Odd that they are all loose.
Has someone changed the pcd by welding studs to the original hub?
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Jul 30, 2021 20:04:44 GMT
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Or maybe the hub is one pcd which is slightly different to the wheels pcd. Instead of fitting wobble bolts or adaptors someone has fitted normal bolts which have worked the studs loose.
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Jul 30, 2021 22:28:57 GMT
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In answer to your question:
I would start by running a slitting disk down the stud to allow you to chisel the nuts off the studs without turning them.
Removal of the wheel is the main obstacle here.
OK, so you may end up doing some (more) damage to the rim but as far as I am concerned the studs and nuts are already scrap and re-use of the wheel is tbc upon removal and inspection.
Check your PCD's are correct and get your new studs in the hub with some weld on the back if the hub can be re-used.
I'm interested to see what the root cause was/is...
Good luck! 👍
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I’d be VERY carefully checking the wheel too, when that happened to me with a Peugeot 505 years ago it scrapped the wheel because the seats were too damaged to safely reuse it ☹️
Edit- not a wheel thief/jealous muppet who thought you don’t deserve such a great vehicle? Had that too, where have you been leaving it?
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it'll be a halfshaft replacement if the holes are shagged out.
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Had it happen on my modern bmw last year !
Wheels hadn’t been off fit around 2000 miles abs it decided to happen in the south of France!
Required a new hub
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Dez
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Jul 31, 2021 12:01:56 GMT
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You can get oversize shank repair studs from rockauto. There is no hub, it’s a halfshaft.
As said you’ll have to cut the nuts off of if they’re all spinning though.
Also if that stud has come off inwards expect the brake internals to be all smashed up from it rattling round inside.
The wheel also looks scrap to me, the seats are well chewed and it doubt they’d recut as it looks like a steel wheel.
The real issue is why it’s happened. I’d put money on the nuts bottoming on the thread on the studs before they reach clamping torque.
Which means the others won’t be far behind and you’ll have to look at them too.
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dazaaa
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Jul 31, 2021 14:30:28 GMT
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Right got the wheel off, breaker bar, a tight socket and they all snapped easily. Wheel is indeed scrap, 2 holes are badly damaged. Thankfully a new wheel isn't hard to find but they only come in black annoyingly. The broken stud was stuck in the half shaft so no damage done to the drum brake. I can see two of the holes in the shaft are worn badly. The rest look ok. What is the best/quickest way to get this sorted? another thing I noticed is this wheel is covered in brake dust wheras the rest are much cleaner. Also you may be right about the lug nuts as the front pass side wheel is now missing a nut!! Can't believe i did 500 miles like this.   |
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Paul Y
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Jul 31, 2021 14:35:03 GMT
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As Dez said, get onto Rock Auto and order a set of oversize studs - they will be before the end of there week and you will be good to go. P.  |
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dazaaa
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Jul 31, 2021 15:13:12 GMT
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By oversize studs does it mean going up to the next size? Currently 7/16 so 1/2" studs? Would that mean I need to drill out all the holes in the half shaft?
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Jul 31, 2021 16:24:11 GMT
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Id order the correct studs and weld the back of the stud to the halfshaft.
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Dez
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Jul 31, 2021 17:45:03 GMT
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No, they sell repair studs with an oversize spline but the same size thread.
It’s not an uncommon problem, solutions to it already exist.
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