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Jul 26, 2021 11:39:51 GMT
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Long story short;
Last year I shared a unit space for short term with a guy that broke Land rovers, things were working out then he slowly pushed me out of the space (which I took on and invited him into).
The share soured but in the time I started designing a logo for his company.
Now the guy has taken my design that was just a screen shot and changed the font slightly.
Where do I stand with this?
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Jul 26, 2021 12:15:23 GMT
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Not sure where you'd stand on that, unless you had some form of communication stating he'd asked you for a proof of some sort?
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dragon
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Jul 26, 2021 14:12:43 GMT
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Is it not intellectual property?
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Jul 26, 2021 14:31:23 GMT
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Yes, technically although it's difficult to get someone to stop using it, first step is a cease and desist letter from you or our appointed lawyer.
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Jul 26, 2021 14:41:02 GMT
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Hi, i suppose because he's altered it (changed the font) it becomes debatable. Only likely to be resolved in court, or at the very least by lawyers.
Colin
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melle
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It'll come out in the wash.
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Jul 26, 2021 22:59:23 GMT
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As a self-employed copywriter (= someone who writes text) I've had a similar copyright (= intellectual property) issue a few years ago, where someone was using some of my text they hadn't paid for. They commissioned work from me, then used one of my drafts and published it with some changes (not improvements...), and refused to pay me because it was "their own work". Our agreement and the process were very well documented with email correspondence and track-changes Word documents, so proof wasn't an issue. I sought legal advice from a professional association I was a member of, and the bottom line was that although annoying, it wasn't worth the hassle chasing it. Perhaps best to move on I suppose, unless you have deep pockets and a lot of patience.
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Last Edit: Jul 26, 2021 23:00:20 GMT by melle
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Long story short; Last year I shared a unit space for short term with a guy that broke Land rovers, things were working out then he slowly pushed me out of the space (which I took on and invited him into). The share soured but in the time I started designing a logo for his company. Now the guy has taken my design that was just a screen shot and changed the font slightly. Where do I stand with this? What a heel!  Sadly, Melle is correct. This sort of action is strictly for the "big boys" who can afford the long and drawn-out (= expensive) process of chasing it through the courts. And in the end, even in the highly unlikely event that you win in court, all the defendant will have to do is change it slightly (which it sounds like he's already done, hence the "highly unlikely") and carry on using it. The only real winners are the lawyers. |
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Jul 27, 2021 13:04:35 GMT
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If you no longer like him get your revenge by calling environmental health and complaining about an unlicensed vehicle dismantling business in that unit/ environmental crimes, dumping waste oil down the drains etc
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Jul 27, 2021 15:55:31 GMT
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If you no longer like him get your revenge by calling environmental health and complaining about an unlicensed vehicle dismantling business in that unit/ environmental crimes, dumping waste oil down the drains etc Do you know him lol |
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madmog
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Copywrite query/help neededmadmog
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Jul 30, 2021 18:34:31 GMT
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I concur with Daklone & Melle. If it's a money thing, the money you should have got for the design will be less than your legal costs. And this is in no way belittling the value of your design work
Absolute minimum costs as a ballpark: solicitor's cease and desist letter, £200. Prolonged solicitor letters, £2,000, court case min £20,000. Plus your time documenting everything.
If it's a revenge thing, legal action is an expensive alternative to the aforementioned and other free options.
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2021 18:35:36 GMT by madmog
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wu11ie
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Jul 30, 2021 19:25:38 GMT
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Not that I'm condoning or suggesting it but it would be cheap enough to fill water balloons with paint hand them off to the 'yoof' with 30 quid and see what happens lol
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Jul 30, 2021 21:56:46 GMT
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Is copyright infringement the only issue, or was a price agreed that the other party has now failed to pay? If the latter, the small claims court may be a suitable (& much more cost effective) avenue.
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brachunky
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Copywrite query/help neededbrachunky
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If he has said sign on a building, I would get up there and add in the biggest size you could "sign/logo designed by slackerthepinstriper"!
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Without some sort of written/email agreement or other evidence trail you'll just make lawyers more money.
options: Put it down to experience and when it comes to business trust no one, record everything.
Go social media and out him as sh!tbag not to be trusted.
Get Mad Machete Mike down the Slug&Lettuce to visit him for the usual fee.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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gte86
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I agree that an anonymous call to Environmental Health would certain ruin his day.
And it would improve yours 🤣
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