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A bit of appropriately sized bar or even thick wall tube for the die works well for this and the wooden bottom die is ideal, arpen. How about the above plus a hydraulic press ? Home made or bought, they are not terribly expensive I think the price is about even for a press vs. a bead roller. I can use a bead roller. And a press, but eh.
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This looks amazing - gets my vote over all other options. It's even still a Mopar color, too. Available on Chargers and Challengers.
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How about the above plus a hydraulic press ? Home made or bought, they are not terribly expensive I think the price is about even for a press vs. a bead roller. I can use a bead roller. And a press, but eh. Or just hit the former with a hammer along its length until the desired shape is formed (which is what I do / did). handy if your panel is bigger than the bead roller
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Take the Next slot right coming up on the left.
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Or just hit the former with a hammer along its length until the desired shape is formed (which is what I do / did). handy if your panel is bigger than the bead roller I could see if there's any steel bar at the hardware store that's the right size. I would really love to press the ribs into the repair panel a little more deeply than they currently are (put in lightly with a bead roller by looks of it) to match what was there from the factory. Things are slowing down just a touch for a few reasons. First, summer is pretty much here. It's humid and hot and the makes being in the garage hard work. Second, I'm at the point I need to spend on the car and tools. The sections I'm forming up now need for the rear quarters to be correctly in place as they join to them. I need to get those and put them in, but to do that I need a new welder... It begins to spiral! Then I've got some more fun upside-down in welding to do after I've redone the trunk floor- then the floorpan needs looking at and the firewall and front inner wings. Unless I uncover anything else that should be it for metalwork, then it'll be a case of straightening it all out for primer. Phil
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Last Edit: Jun 8, 2021 14:44:32 GMT by PhilA
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i think youv'e done blimmen well with that purchase phil , from something that could have been 90 % collander , its turned out to be a solidish bit of kit .
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i think youv'e done blimmen well with that purchase phil , from something that could have been 90 % collander , its turned out to be a solidish bit of kit . They vary wildly. This is about as cheap as one that doesn't look like lace when held up to the light (even if more complete than this one is). I've seen rusty junk for about the same price, some for significantly less though the $500 ones seen to have all vanished. It's a shame it's not more original but, given that, the same as the Pontiac I'm not so precious about actually getting it operational and using it as a daily driver. The cheaper ones are up north but they tend to be more riddled with rot; I'm not upset at the price I paid, given that if I would have had to ship a cgeaper car from further afield, I would be as deep in cost with the shipping and travel as I am now. Phil
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Last Edit: Jun 8, 2021 19:51:53 GMT by PhilA
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with a bit of lateral thinking, a trolley jack and a solid frame to work it in, I'm sure if you got a bit of bar fitted to the trolley jack with the former fixed to the frame you could 'jack' the ribs into the panel?
Food for thought?
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with a bit of lateral thinking, a trolley jack and a solid frame to work it in, I'm sure if you got a bit of bar fitted to the trolley jack with the former fixed to the frame you could 'jack' the ribs into the panel? Food for thought? Tried similar things in the past and you need about 15 ton to squash those ribs in. My jacks are good for a fraction of that, so it doesn't work well.
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Hmmm, ok. You always wanted a 30 ton bearing press anyway
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Hmmm, ok. You always wanted a 30 ton bearing press anyway Convince my wife of this fact, and you're onto a winner! Until then, ten bucks of solid steel bar might have to be it, with my BFH and the wooden die. Phil
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Teach her how delicious macadamia nuts are? You need a pretty good cracker for those.. Although for ease of use for cracking nuts you'd better get an electrically operated one instead of swinging a lever around.
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Last Edit: Jun 10, 2021 2:25:48 GMT by varelse
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I may have posted this before but could you adapt this technique? link
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1986 BMW E30 refreshed to original spec 1973 BMW E12 520 converting to Motorsport 530 1982 XJS V12 converting to 5 speed manual
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Jun 10, 2021 10:52:01 GMT
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I have found hammer forming them is about the easiest way, I have a press but you can only get fairly small parts in it, with hammer forming you can get it looking roughly right and functional within a few minutes, or really good within a few hours, the former suits me fine as my restorations tend to be on the sound and functional side rather than winning any awards anyway.
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Jun 10, 2021 12:46:19 GMT
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I have found hammer forming them is about the easiest way, I have a press but you can only get fairly small parts in it, with hammer forming you can get it looking roughly right and functional within a few minutes, or really good within a few hours, the former suits me fine as my restorations tend to be on the sound and functional side rather than winning any awards anyway. I'm trying to get it a little bit tidier because this you see if you open the boot, and there's a LOT of strengthening ribs in the floor. Phil
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Jun 10, 2021 15:16:37 GMT
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How about a bit of leverage?
Fix your bar & former in a strong frame and with a 6 foot arm with some extra levers (can't describe it well but a bit like a valve spring compressor or mole grips lever) you could 'press' the ribs in? Gotta be worth an evening with the welder & some scrap to try it out?
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Jun 10, 2021 17:36:29 GMT
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How about a bit of leverage? Fix your bar & former in a strong frame and with a 6 foot arm with some extra levers (can't describe it well but a bit like a valve spring compressor or mole grips lever) you could 'press' the ribs in? Gotta be worth an evening with the welder & some scrap to try it out? Yeah, that could work actually.
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Jun 10, 2021 19:16:27 GMT
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i wonder what would happen if you had a circular former with the right profile , welded onto a steel car wheel , put it on the car ,lay the metal on the wood bit , lower the car onto it and roll the car forward ?
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Jun 10, 2021 22:44:26 GMT
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i wonder what would happen if you had a circular former with the right profile , welded onto a steel car wheel , put it on the car ,lay the metal on the wood bit , lower the car onto it and roll the car forward ? Rolling radius is too large for that. Good idea though.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:11:34 GMT
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I took a measurement and went to the store this afternoon. 3/8" hot rolled steel bar. The addition of fire to an already hot garage was horrible but necessary. Chamfered the end then beat the blazes out of it. Paint makes it easier to see the finish, which is imperfect but passable. Offered up against the remains of the factory steel... Yup. That'll do. Good call, that man. Phil
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