Del
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Feb 22, 2021 17:40:07 GMT
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Our driveway is very narrow, as can be seen by the fact that our modern Panda only just fits between the piers. There’s about an inch clearance between the mirrors and the cap stones. You can also see that I can’t bring the car any further back, as I’ll whack it on the corner of the house (as well as there being a drainpipe just to the left of where I was standing). All the other properties on our side of the road have removed the wall, and a number already use the garden for parking. We already have a dropped kerb, and the garden is covered with slate chips. Could we just knock down the wall, pull the plants up, and stick the car on there?
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'I come not from Heaven, but from Essex'. The Retro Rider formerly known as Silvermac.
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Feb 22, 2021 18:44:27 GMT
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Hi, That's what I've done, but don't drive over the footpath or grass verges to gain access. Otherwise you may run into trouble with the council, because your garden is your property the footpath and verges aren't. Part of the cost of getting dropped kerbs or wider one's is the legal work to give you permission to cross them. I was fortunate that I had the depth of garden to allow me to drive in, of course reversing in is easier. That lamp post being where it is will increase the cost because of moving it if you go for 'official' widening of the dropped kerb or even maybe a refusal. You could of course wing it and keep off the grass and their radar.
Colin
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Del
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Feb 22, 2021 19:31:53 GMT
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Cheers Colin, thanks for the info. I think I’d be able to drive in and swing around without clobbering the lampost and reversing out shouldn’t be a bother. But it might be if we get a bigger car...
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'I come not from Heaven, but from Essex'. The Retro Rider formerly known as Silvermac.
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pptom
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Feb 22, 2021 20:26:59 GMT
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Check with the council first. I did this with our last house, no issues except when it came time to sell and there turned out to be a clause whereby no one was allowed to do this in our street, regardless that other neighbours had. Pain at the time, as it was holding up the sale but I just had to send the council a letter asking permission which they granted, no money exchanged hands. At the very least if you do this and someone complains down the line you will have the council's permission.
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slater
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Can I park on our garden?slater
@slater
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If theres a drop curb access should be sorted. Some houses have deeds which prevent parking on the front garden but I doubt yours does.
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Can I park on our garden?fr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Do you mean legally or whether you need to prep the ground to prevent sinkage / car issues caused by parking on damp ground?
Legally it should say on your deeds if there's any restrictions.
Ground prep I'd put down a 6" bed of concrete if it it's going to be a permanent thing.
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Feb 23, 2021 12:01:48 GMT
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hows about a lean to garage across the front of the properly?
kidding
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Feb 23, 2021 13:09:38 GMT
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Many years ago when I lived at home, my dad decided he wanted to turn our old rockery into another driveway. Wasn't possible to use our existing driveway to swing into it as it was on a much higher level than the existing.
Didn't say a word to the council, bought some nice matching kerb stones and just cracked on. Drop Kerb, nicely curved Kerb to finish off the verge, matched the tarmac into match what was already there. Probably a better job than the council would of done.
Never rumbled. I think the neighbours were fed up with how many cars he had on the road, and an additional driveway was beneficial for all parties.
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Feb 23, 2021 14:19:31 GMT
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As others have said it shouldn't be a problem virtually all the houses around here have done it, one thing to bear in mind is some areas have building regulations relating to drainage and run off, basically you have to use a porous surface like block paving over crushed stone and not concrete, that said many of the so called professionals laying it around here don't seem to bother.
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Can I park on our garden?deanflowers
@deanflowers
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Feb 23, 2021 15:21:48 GMT
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Putting down a surface that is not porous could make the council upset as you have to be responsible for your rain water. Even with planning i had to put down porous tarmac on my driveway when i widenend it. But iam in the national park
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Feb 23, 2021 15:51:28 GMT
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Is the bit in front of your wall one of those that belong to the highways people but they expect you to maintain it? If its yours you could reinforce the corner once you've altered the wall to aid access.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Feb 24, 2021 21:11:21 GMT
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Feb 25, 2021 20:39:26 GMT
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As long as disagree water doesn't discharge onto the public highway then it shouldn't be an issue, the easiest way around it is to fit an acco type drain between the drive and footpath.
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Del
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Feb 25, 2021 20:53:22 GMT
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Thanks for all the info. I don’t intend to lay concrete, I was just going to add more slate chips to stop the car sinking into the soil. I have realised however that the grass verge might be awkward, as I don’t want to be driving across that as I turn in (the parish council maintain those). It won’t be any bother with the Panda but it might be tight with a bigger car. I think I might knock down the pier to give a bit more width, pull up those dead hydrangeas, and cover that with chips, then at least I can reverse in at an angle and not have to squeeze out of the driver’s side!
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'I come not from Heaven, but from Essex'. The Retro Rider formerly known as Silvermac.
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skinnylew
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Can I park on our garden?skinnylew
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As a highways technician responsible for maintaining verges and footways and marking and measuring up for vehicle crossovers I'll throw some opinion in here lol
You can do whatever you like with regards to the frontage it's lower than the verge so water discharge isn't an issue.
Taking the wall down shouldn't be a problem either although some areas like you to have planning consent to make alterations (mainly classified roads etc)
Don't start driving over the verge, it's one of my pet hates and a sure fire way to get the council irked and land you in bother, makes the area look messy and footways unsafe covered in mud (but you weren't going to do that anyway)
Keep an eye out for any works in the area regarding lamp columns. Why? Well it looks to be a concrete column outside your property and some councils are doing a wholesale replacement of these over the next few years (we are 3/4 of the way through). If they do come to move it get them to put it further away from the vehicle crossover, that way if you ever wanted to extend (i mean pay the council to extend....) you won't have to pay to move the column (£1000+ in my borough)
You may find that a small extension to your existing crossover may well aid getting on and off with more than 1 car, depending on the expense (ours are very expensive #BrokeLondonBorough )
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skinnylew
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Can I park on our garden?skinnylew
@skinnylew
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Many years ago when I lived at home, my dad decided he wanted to turn our old rockery into another driveway. Wasn't possible to use our existing driveway to swing into it as it was on a much higher level than the existing. Didn't say a word to the council, bought some nice matching kerb stones and just cracked on. Drop Kerb, nicely curved Kerb to finish off the verge, matched the tarmac into match what was already there. Probably a better job than the council would of done. Never rumbled. I think the neighbours were fed up with how many cars he had on the road, and an additional driveway was beneficial for all parties. I've caught people doing this before and we charge them to take it out, reinstate it as it was and then again if they want the crossing extended. A very expensive lesson if you get caught and with Google streetview catching people is easier than you think. That said the ones i have caught have paid caravan club passing through to do it so it's normally very substandard work and obvious!!
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Many years ago when I lived at home, my dad decided he wanted to turn our old rockery into another driveway. Wasn't possible to use our existing driveway to swing into it as it was on a much higher level than the existing. Didn't say a word to the council, bought some nice matching kerb stones and just cracked on. Drop Kerb, nicely curved Kerb to finish off the verge, matched the tarmac into match what was already there. Probably a better job than the council would of done. Never rumbled. I think the neighbours were fed up with how many cars he had on the road, and an additional driveway was beneficial for all parties. I've caught people doing this before and we charge them to take it out, reinstate it as it was and then again if they want the crossing extended. A very expensive lesson if you get caught and with Google streetview catching people is easier than you think. That said the ones i have caught have paid caravan club passing through to do it so it's normally very substandard work and obvious!! No such thing as streetview when this was done. He used to do this sort of thing all the time. Going back to look at streetview now, looks like the council have "dressed" the pavement, and it's all uniform.
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2021 16:00:30 GMT by Soopahfly
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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Can I park on our garden?skinnylew
@skinnylew
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I've caught people doing this before and we charge them to take it out, reinstate it as it was and then again if they want the crossing extended. A very expensive lesson if you get caught and with Google streetview catching people is easier than you think. That said the ones i have caught have paid caravan club passing through to do it so it's normally very substandard work and obvious!! No such thing as streetview when this was done. He used to do this sort of thing all the time. Going back to look at streetview now, looks like the council have "dressed" the pavement, and it's all uniform. I'm sure people have done it before and done a good job, proving it is hard but made so much easier when people are slapdash and lazy. If you can't even be bothered to match the kerbs and surface properly then you deserve to get caught lol Also some areas have several contractors who can do the work so the standards will differ slightly as will material used etc so more ikely to get away with such variances. My borough is single contractor only so no such joy for people!
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Seriously how are they getting away with only having one approved contractor? I thought it was standard that anybody with the current liability insurance (£20 million rings a bell) in place and able to do the work to an approved standard can carry it out?
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