mylittletony
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1934 ford hot rod truck. mylittletony
@mylittletony
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I'd certainly agree on the trad hot rod and trend/fashion confluence at the moment: Turn-ups and rockabilly etc.
It's similar in the motorbike world. Proven by The Bike Shed who run a show, but also have an in house tattooist and barber for your beard and quiff... The bike scene is already drifting into 80s/90s builds so maybe the hot rod scene will dilute as the fashion develops
And the Japanese are well known for taking a build style and doing it better - British modified classics, kustoms & lowriders (maybe not better but just as good), choppers and bobbers etc etc
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Nov 22, 2021 11:26:17 GMT
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Another promising looking thread discovered over my late breakfast. Bookmarked for now, and I will catch up in the morning before sunup. In the meantime, back to getting on with my own car and house restoration / alterations.
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Dez
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1934 ford hot rod truck. Dez
@dez
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Nov 22, 2021 12:00:26 GMT
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metalshapes I wouldn’t worry too much about the HAMB ending up how it has. I think given the demographic, it was inevitable. The age and nationality of the majority of members meant the place was a reflection of their values. It’s why this forum is different in a way, being British based the build threads tend to be more honest. Be that quietly confident, understated, or just self effacing. There’s a lot less ‘look at me’ on here than American forums, as the british tend to find such behaviour vulgar, something that’s pretty much been bred out of the American population. I guess trad Rods are a bit of a fad, ish, but if it is it keeps coming round and never really going away. Most of the guys I know who are into em (including a few low flyers members) were part of the 80s rockabilly revival. I had only just been born. Then there was a big surge 20 years later, around the millennium and just before, when guys like Jimmy shine made his name. . Then again in the past few years with another dearth of bullsh1t American ‘shows’. It’s not like they disappeared in between though. The hipster crowd isn’t necessarily a bad thing though. Maybe 10-20% make the transition to being proper hot rod guys. The rest spend all their money then after a few years flog off all their stuff cheap when they move onto the next fad, leaving a good parts supply for the lifers. In the meantime we benefit from all the business springing up to supply the perceived need.
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stealthstylz
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1934 ford hot rod truck. stealthstylz
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Nov 22, 2021 18:39:13 GMT
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I don't think the nostalgia thing is a fashion this time round and will probably last a very long time. It always strikes me that it was hot rodders "giving up" hot rodding as they couldn't compete with OEM any more and there isn't really anywhere else to go with it. Not to say there aren't still people hot rodding stuff, they're just not doing it on traditional base cars.
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Nov 22, 2021 19:12:52 GMT
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OK, maybe its better to call it the flavor of the day. If you go through a stack of period pics, you can usually date the era the car was built in pretty well. By build style, parts used, paint/graphics, interior, etc. The Pony car/ Musclecar era put a dent into Hot Rodding, but it never went away. If we take the greatest generation coming back from the war as a starting point ( it wasnt, people were building Hot Rods before that ), there has been a constant evolution of styles. When lil'John Buttera did his Billet '32Coupe, I was very impressed. Right after that came the Boyd built Billet '34Coupe, and those 2 cars are the only ones I ever cut magazines up for. But then it was downhill from there, for me. As a buildstyle it went stale for me, almost right away. Another factor was, the articles Thacker did in ( I think ) Street Machine Magazine. At the end of his '32Roadster build, he lamented that he went the ( then ) contemporary Billet route. Instead of building a Trad car. His reasoning made a lot of sense to me. And I've been trying to learn about Trad Hot Rods long before I was able to build one. So it was never in any doubt that was the direction I'd go in, when I was finally able to build them. ( but with a generous helping of Road Race/Track influence, because thats what I'm into as well... ) My apologies for derailing your Buildthread, Dez . But it does explain why I like your builds as much as I do...
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I’ve said before I think, when I’m writing updates for on here I try to assume the reader knows sweet f-k all about hotrods, especially traditional ones. Given the demographic on here I expect a fair proportion of people will never have seen a separate chassis vehicle up close, let alone a 1930s one with a flathead and transverse leafs and wishbones and torque tube drivetrains and all the other stuff that was perfectly normal back then but is weird now. To those who know it’ll seem dumbed down, but if I base an explanation on assumed knowledge that isn’t there, It’s pointless. I know hotrods have an air of mystery if you’re viewing from the outside, as I was there myself once. I’m trying to show they’re just old cars, same as so many others, albeit pretty cool ones. 05.51 and I'm up to date well before sunup . Your level of detail is fine; enough for the youngsters cited above, but still interesting for the few of us old motor engineering boys left. It's great to see that the old skills, tenacity, and resourcefulness are not about to die out.
Absolutely first class, love to see the results in the metal.
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Dez
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1934 ford hot rod truck. Dez
@dez
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Dec 13, 2021 22:56:11 GMT
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There’s been a few parts based developments for this. I was over my mate franks picking up a few little bits for something else and he gave me these- Probably because me and his nephew (who I happen to already be mates with independently through entirely different types of car) got roped (quite literally) into handling a 32 Ford chassis up in the roof of his garage so it was out the way. So I reckon I earned em 😂 Don’t get too excited though, as although they’ve never been used- The sidewalls look like this, hence them going begging. Still, bit o’ boot polish and they’ll be reet 😉😬 In all seriousness though, with the acquisition of these, this thing can now be a roller. I also bought these off friendface. They’re an original 50s/60s pair of Stewart Warner oil pressure and OIL temp gauges. They have a nice patina, and at 40 quid plus the ride, they were a bit of a barg. The panel is new and nothing special so that’ll get flogged on. They’re untested but they’re mechanical so generally speaking if the needles rest in around the right place they’re Proably gunna be ok. The temp one has the capillary and bulb all in good order, the pressure one needs a copper line making up. Well ignore how much a matching SW Speedo is for now 😂 Last thing was a handbrake lever. Yeah d been keeping an eye out for one for a while as it was a thing a new I needed, in typical dashing I now have 2-1/2. One 35/36 one with the little kink and the big bracket, one that was sold as model A but I can’t place as the ratchet bit is wrong for model A and 32-34, and lastly an extra model A or 32-34 handle with the mech missing. I’m favouring the 35/36 at the mo but we’ll see. I need so few parts now, just plenty of time.
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Last Edit: Dec 13, 2021 23:19:00 GMT by Dez
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logicaluk
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Dec 13, 2021 23:14:54 GMT
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errm Dez that's an oil temp gauge not water
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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1934 ford hot rod truck. Dez
@dez
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Dec 13, 2021 23:18:03 GMT
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errm Dez that's an oil temp gauge not water Yeah I know I’m getting confused with other things I’ve bought 😂 I’ve got quite a few of this type of gauge for different cars. I’ll go correct it, thanks. Stupid thing is I bought these cos the oil temp gauge is quite rare!
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Last Edit: Dec 13, 2021 23:20:17 GMT by Dez
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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1934 ford hot rod truck. Dez
@dez
Club Retro Rides Member 34
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Dec 19, 2021 20:30:57 GMT
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I’ve been on a bit of a roll picking stuff up for this. After the freebie front tyres, I bought a only slightly used pair of 6.50-16 suitable for the rear for under £100 delivered. They’re in good condition and totally legal. They’re a size smaller than I’d like but for the moment I’m not gunna complain, as the truck isn’t at a position where I can justify £750 for a pair of tyres yet. There was a slight problem I needed to overcome at this point. The wheels I have don’t fit the rear brakes I’ve got. The brakes are odd, no-one can identify them. They fit up to a pre-48 axle and have normal size internals, but the drums are big heavy cast jobs with massive cooling fins. ‘Normal’ drums are a cast outer on a pressed steel ‘face’, and don’t have the fins. Logic would dictate a big heavy vehicle, but they don’t have the larger wheel studs vehicles over 3/4 ton usually have, so they remain a mystery. Here is the issue- As you can see they backs of the wheels don’t touch the hub face by about 1/2”. The best solution would be just turn the fins off, as they hit the inside of the back of a 16” wheel. But the drums don’t fit in my lathe, so I just bought a pair of wheel spacers for a Suzuki Jimny that are the same pcd and where a whopping 22 quid delivered. Tbh I’ll Probably never use them on the road, but they make it a roller for now. I then sorted through my inner tube pile, tested them and eventually found 4 decent ones, then fitted up the tyres. With wheels on both ends it means the truck is more in one piece, notnthat you can see that well as there’s a transit in the way. and I can Chuck some unnecessary junk (the dead tyres and tubes) away.
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Last Edit: Dec 20, 2021 12:24:51 GMT by Dez
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