quickrack1
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Dec 30, 2020 16:57:02 GMT |
As above. Its loose and will freely rotate. But it wont come apart. 🤔🤔 I triple and more checked that everything is disconnected/unbolted. Do I just need more force or what??💥 Ps it kinda dwarves the 1.8 zetec behind it 😄😄    |
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stealthstylz
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Dec 30, 2020 17:08:01 GMT |
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Have you unbolted the torque convertor from the flex plate?
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Dez
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Dec 30, 2020 17:19:47 GMT |
Have you unbolted the torque convertor from the flex plate? This. They don’t come apart like ‘normal’ stuff. Just hope the motor turns over as they’re a real sh1t to get apart otherwise! |
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tineca
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Dec 30, 2020 17:47:02 GMT |
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Didn't the chap on here with the jag v12 that's seized have the same issue?
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1962 Morris minor (sold)
1985 BMW 323i 2door
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quickrack1
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Dec 30, 2020 17:47:53 GMT |
Have you unbolted the torque convertor from the flex plate? This. They don’t come apart like ‘normal’ stuff. Just hope the motor turns over as they’re a real sh1t to get apart otherwise! I haven't. And its locked. curse word. |
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Dez
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Dec 30, 2020 17:52:35 GMT |
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Depends on model it’ll have 3, 4 or 6 bolts/nuts. If you roll it over and have the cover off you can usually get to more than half, and it’ll also help you determine the position of the last couple. You can usually just about get an open ended spanner down to em but you’ll be working blind and it’s a pain.
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Dez
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Dec 30, 2020 17:54:57 GMT |
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Other option is stand it up on the crank pulley and rotate the box until the torque converter unlocks. You have to be lifting it as well as you do so. It’ll empty the entire contents of the box out all over you/your feet/the motor though.
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Ritchie
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Dec 30, 2020 18:05:19 GMT |
Other option is stand it up on the crank pulley and rotate the box until the torque converter unlocks. You have to be lifting it as well as you do so. It’ll empty the entire contents of the box out all over you/your feet/the motor though. Can you not do this but rotate the box to get to the bolts, then drop it back down to remove the torque converter with the box? |
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Dez
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Dec 30, 2020 18:55:38 GMT |
Other option is stand it up on the crank pulley and rotate the box until the torque converter unlocks. You have to be lifting it as well as you do so. It’ll empty the entire contents of the box out all over you/your feet/the motor though. Can you not do this but rotate the box to get to the bolts, then drop it back down to remove the torque converter with the box? The bolt heads are between the back of the block and the flex plate, so it won’t improve access all that much. The gap that’s there now is as big as it will get. Really theres no easy way to do it if the motor is locked up. |
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stealthstylz
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Dec 30, 2020 19:49:06 GMT |
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Easiest way I've found is to take the heads off then free up the pistons with a big hammer so it turns. It's probably full of water so you'll need new ones anyway.
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Dec 30, 2020 21:42:28 GMT |
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Take the sump off as well, undo the big ends and knock all 8 pistons out then it should turn freely.
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Last Edit: Dec 30, 2020 21:43:21 GMT by kevins
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quickrack1
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And its coming apart anyway so that sounds like the best plan.
Guess what I'm doing Saturday??😄
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Dec 31, 2020 10:22:45 GMT |
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Have you tried pulling the plugs to get it to turn? I doubt he would have saved it if it wasn't likely to go again.
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quickrack1
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Dec 31, 2020 11:51:31 GMT |
Have you tried pulling the plugs to get it to turn? I doubt he would have saved it if it wasn't likely to go again. Not yet. Need to find an imperial socket set first. I thought that 5.0liter might have meant metric......🤪 |
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Dec 31, 2020 16:02:49 GMT |
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5l is 305ci which is why it's in imperial. 16mm will fit a standard 5/8" plug though.
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Dez
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Dec 31, 2020 17:45:47 GMT |
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It’ll be a totally screwed up mix of metric and imperial at that age, including metric fasteners with imperial size flats, and vice-versa.
Always great fun...
Spark plugs are always metric though, both threads and flats- it’s why they’re sized at odd sizes that have a direct metric/imperial crossover.
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Last Edit: Dec 31, 2020 17:47:42 GMT by Dez
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quickrack1
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Dec 31, 2020 17:58:40 GMT |
I need better tools to go further but I got the gearbox off and the electrical gubbins off. ITS NOT SIEZED! I cant quite get over the sheer scale of it. It really is bloody massive 🤪🤪😎    |
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Dec 31, 2020 18:33:19 GMT |
I need better tools to go further but I got the gearbox off and the electrical gubbins off. ITS NOT SIEZED! I cant quite get over the sheer scale of it. It really is bloody massive 🤪🤪😎 Small block Fords are hardly massive. Take the injection plenum off, and you'll regain some perspective |
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Dez
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Dec 31, 2020 20:27:10 GMT |
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Actually smaller in terms of unremovable extremities than a rover v8 that makes half the power form 3/4 the capacity...
I’d class them as pretty compact tbh.
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comfortablynumb
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Actually smaller in terms of unremovable extremities than a rover v8 that makes half the power form 3/4 the capacity... I’d class them as pretty compact tbh. This. Also for a world of pain, Land Rover absolutely LOVE to mix metric and imperial fixings.... |
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