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Unfortunately we had some bother on our street over the weekend (I'll not go into it) that's got me thinking about extra security around our house and garage.
My Garage is a separate building with a regular upvc side door that I want to reinforce it with a extra external lock. Something nice and secure and chunky.
Does anyone have any suggestions or experience of making something similar?
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alecf
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Oct 12, 2020 10:42:48 GMT
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if its a normal domestic upvc door i imagine it has a solid upvc panel in the middle??, if so these are just 5mm ply wood with polystyrene and upvc clad, a good boot and they fold inwards. SO no matter what you do to the frame and door they will still be able to get in with minimal effort.
IF its for a garage I would use an insulated steel door. they are ridiculously strong, look nice in a powder coated coloured finish and are well priced.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:24:29 GMT
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I can concur with Alec's comments, we were burgled via our upvc door. They had simply levered the panel out from the middle in broad daylight and left lock and frame in place. I hadn't realised before how completely useless they were. I swapped the door for a composite one. Maybe you can strengthen the UPVC door somehow as a cheaper option to swapping it.
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If at first you don't succeed........
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hopeso
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Oct 12, 2020 12:17:49 GMT
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Screw a piece of checker plate over the whole door and paint it to match the frame.
If they want in nothing will stop them but make it harder and they will go elsewhere for an easier target.
Put up security lights and cameras, scroates don't like being recorded at their work.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:26:49 GMT
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You guys are spot on, it has a Upvc lower panel. I do plan to reinforce the panel, but I was also wanting an extra lock too, mainly as a visual deterrent and an extra layer of security.
I've already got security lighting and I'll be installing cameras too.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:30:30 GMT
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IF its for a garage I would use an insulated steel door. they are ridiculously strong, look nice in a powder coated coloured finish and are well priced. Good call on the steel doors, cheaper than I thought. I'll look into this too. |
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Oct 12, 2020 14:50:15 GMT
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If you look around there are are often quite a few steel or composite doors (also pretty strong) on ebay etc which are new but were built the wrong size/ colour / letterbox etc.
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Last Edit: Oct 12, 2020 14:50:31 GMT by kevins
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Oct 12, 2020 15:26:18 GMT
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Problem is, if you fortify it too much people assume there is something worth steeling. Change the handle and euro lock for the diamond standard ones as they can't be snapped/bumped. Then as said strengthen the panel that can be easily kicked out.
You could use coach bolts painted white to bolt a strengthening panel to the inside of the door.
If they want in though it's a bit tough, my mum used to work at an off-licence - they kept getting broken into so they fitted a massive steel rear door. They broke into the flat above and came through the floor, and the next time they made a hole in the brick wall 🤷🏼♂️
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Oct 12, 2020 15:47:41 GMT
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We've got a Rockdoor on the house.
Even some composite doors are really easy to get through.
Agree about changing the cylinder, most of total poop and take less then 10 seconds to quietly deal with.
What about a metal grate on hinges that folds to cover the existing door?
Smear some anti vandal paint on it for good measure.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:37:56 GMT
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In my job I sometimes need a locksmith to get into properties. Having watched them at work, I really don’t know why anyone bothers locking doors. They get them open in no time at all without damaging anything. If your a scrote who doesn’t care about damage, no door is an issue. It makes me worry.
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Oct 12, 2020 17:50:10 GMT
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Fit a second steel door on the inside, or a security cage but that won't stop a curse word off would be theif throwing some burning rags in to teach you a lesson.
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Oct 12, 2020 18:17:29 GMT
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In my job I sometimes need a locksmith to get into properties. Having watched them at work, I really don’t know why anyone bothers locking doors. They get them open in no time at all without damaging anything. If your a scrote who doesn’t care about damage, no door is an issue. It makes me worry. Especially as on ebay and Amazon you can kits to practice your lock picking with |
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Oct 12, 2020 19:17:49 GMT
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You probably want to re assess the actual garage door too.
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Oct 13, 2020 12:27:23 GMT
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Thanks chaps, lots of good advice.
I'm going to start with reinforcing the door internally with checker plate and making sure that the current lock is swapped out for a heavy duty anti snap type.
I'll think about extra locks after that.
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Oct 13, 2020 14:06:28 GMT
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a rottie behind it
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Oct 13, 2020 17:02:12 GMT
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With a fire extinguisher and shotgun |
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sal
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Oct 13, 2020 19:01:57 GMT
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I'd definitely upgrade the lock barrels and try to reinforce what you have but ultimately the steel option would be best. I often force entrance - emergency services - to property and I've yet to come across a domestic door that wouldn't open. The stronger you can make the door, the more effort it takes to break which creates a lot of noise and draws attention to what's going on.
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Oct 13, 2020 20:12:28 GMT
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Also the frame is probably held in with the minimum amount of knock in fixings, back filled with foam.
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Oct 13, 2020 20:16:19 GMT
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Once you've made the doorway look like a set from Alcatraz, presumably you'll be bricking up all the window openings?
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Oct 13, 2020 20:58:17 GMT
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Could plate over the UPVC with chequer plate then fit a gasp and decent padlock.
Will only stop an honest thief though and intrigue a dishonest one as to what you may be protecting inside.
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