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Wonder how far that coconut has traveled. You have Southend Essex over the water. With the amusement park etc. Sally reckons people who win them, often toss them in the water. But who knows, we find at least one every time we go walk on the beach by the river estuary. |
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I think you've got George addicted lol,
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BMW E39 525i Sport
BMW E46 320d Sport Touring (now sold on.)
BMW E30 325 Touring (now sold on.)
BMW E30 320 Cabriolet (Project car - currently for sale.)
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Oct 17, 2021 10:26:52 GMT
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So yesterday I went to play with the callipers Started off by cleaning them and seeing of the pistons would even move with pads in place, and a large screwdriver to encourage them.  Removed the pipes.  Then fired up my supersized compressor to drive the pressure through the system to try budge the pistons. Sealed the front end with good old ductape  Ultimately, my skills and the condition of the callipers did not match up. So I will walk away from these, probably try sell them to someone who is a dab hand at refurbishment of callipers to sort out. Then replace the callipers and buy some new pads and hardware. Will get to that next week. Following this I went to the rear brakes. Remember this ?  Would have covered this lot at some point. Missing two studs, and one off the front hub too. Sure there will be some somewhere to buy or scavenge.  Looking decent from here.  Whoooops…… OK, maybe not. So that will be new drums, pads and possibly hardware or a rebuild for the rear.  Also fitted the 4x108 to 4x100 @20mm thick adapters and 5mm spacer. This gets the wheels right out to the edge of the mudguards. I will look at a small engineering solution to replace the wheel nuts the adapters came with, with some studs welded in there, and then some shallow nuts to hold them onto the hubs.  Of course with light failing, I had to at least try the wheels on as well. Seems like everything fits in there, despite the drum being absent.  And some centre caps/cups will need to be sourced at some point.  Today slow day, due to no new parts to fit, will probably be to go back to the body and start working on the screen support for the Land Rover screen glenanderson donated to the build. Or maybe rip out all the gauges that were fitted before, none of which I intend to use…….. Remember what it looked like when we fetched it. Rear drum in evidence too.  Centre console not my taste.  Coffee, then garage. . |
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2021 10:37:35 GMT by grizz
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Oct 17, 2021 11:37:55 GMT
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2021 11:38:30 GMT by westbay
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Oct 17, 2021 18:38:59 GMT
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Thank you Tony. Looks like you will be on call a lot more for now. Replacing the brakes completely all round. Report later. |
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Oct 17, 2021 20:21:17 GMT
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What? Weekend over My new DeWalt tools landed. Amazed at just how different they are to the Makita units I have/had. Ergonomics and size/weight is really well balanced. .jpg) A quick couple of pics about something that is so different for me, here in the UK the way roads are marked. A melted, hot type paint poured from a jug into a drawn trough.   In other news, mate paulf came to collect his hydraulic press in his split bus, dyno’d at 170bhp it has to be interesting if driven hard.  While he was here nickwheeler called me to see if I was here. Of course, so 30 minutes later he joined us. Paul had a home, wife and kids to get to, and left in his bus, and it sounded sooooo healthy. Thanks mate. Nick and I carried on talking all things automotive and tools. Ultimately I managed to convince him to try using the blow out tool he had brought over to see if after my failure, he could convince the pistons to move. Bigger hammer, dismantling and pressure, all failed to get any progress. So we realised that maybe these callipers have seen better days. So the next job will be to put together a package of front brakes and the bits needed.  Regarding the rear brakes, Nick had also brought some parts he had bought years ago and never used.  Looked like it is a fit, maybe this is another of those interchangeable parts one finds when working with cars.  Looking forward to getting some more new parts together to fit before reuniting the chassis and running gear. We are getting there, bit by bit. |
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2021 20:23:23 GMT by grizz
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Oct 17, 2021 21:45:39 GMT
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Your built motivates me to pick up the tools again and keep going.
You get things done. I have been procrastination for weeeeks now.
I am ready to pull things further apart and start building up again but I
get distracted all the time. Keeping in mind that I only work 2 days a week....
Anyway, keep chipping away mate, I really like what you are doing and it keeps me going too...
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Oct 17, 2021 21:48:42 GMT
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To remove the pistons simply get a brake pipe fitting, tap it for a grease gun fitting from a ball joint or similar and then pump the calliper full of grease. This never fails but is a little messy.
Once done clean out all the grease and then get the worst of the rust off the callipers and put them in a bucket of hot water with some citric acid.
I've just done this on a pair of rear callipers from a jaguar 420 and they have come up great and are ready to rebuild.
The only thing i've done that is a subject of contention is i've split the callipers in two to make it easier to clean them out. A lot of people say not to do this but an equal amount say its fine and I can't find any reason not to but it makes it easier to clean them out properly.
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Oct 17, 2021 23:26:14 GMT
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I suppose it depends if it was a european or an african swallow. You mean the swallow who swallowed it?  |
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If they are that seized the pistons are probably past it as well, for an extra £20 each I would just get a new pair, I have just done the same on my range rover for £50 a corner it wasn't worth messing around.
For the back be careful with those shoes, they look old enough to be asbestos. The drums were shared with various escorts and capris but there are different diameters so check which ones you need, they are a bit pricey (around £100 a pair), might be worth looking for a secondhand set.
If it wasn't for the mot with the tiny amount weight on the back of this you could probably do away with the rear brakes and not notice it!
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Last Edit: Oct 18, 2021 6:47:40 GMT by kevins
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...until you try and put the handbrake on ...  |
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...until you try and put the handbrake on ... And no handbrake turns ! Anyway good to have a play and decide what's what but definitely made the right choice going for new brakes all round. On the drums is there enough meat for a light skim to get them back into the game ? (Not 100% sure you have two of them though). Lots of little steps forward. James |
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To remove the pistons simply get a brake pipe fitting, tap it for a grease gun fitting from a ball joint or similar and then pump the calliper full of grease. This never fails but is a little messy. Once done clean out all the grease and then get the worst of the rust off the callipers and put them in a bucket of hot water with some citric acid. I've just done this on a pair of rear callipers from a jaguar 420 and they have come up great and are ready to rebuild. The only thing i've done that is a subject of contention is i've split the callipers in two to make it easier to clean them out. A lot of people say not to do this but an equal amount say its fine and I can't find any reason not to but it makes it easier to clean them out properly. If the calipers are rare and/or expensive then spending a lot of time and effort on them becomes more worthwhile - I've a friend who says repairing a pair of callipers paid for the milling machine he used to do the job. But those were for an Espada, not a Cortina. The amount of grot hidden behind the dust seals, the state of the fluid that was left in these and that the pistons don't move at all when they should just pop out suggest that getting them out would be more of an autopsy than an repair. That's something to consider when new ones have been fitted and the car is in use. |
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Oct 18, 2021 14:14:52 GMT
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Took a very quick look between meetings at the Rallydesign site via a Google search. Pads seem to range in price widely. Also noticed that prices exclude VAT. Yes you have to pay it but it does show that different companies advertise differently. .jpg) Rears will be similarly interesting as there are different options it seems. |
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Oct 18, 2021 17:47:12 GMT
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Took a very quick look between meetings at the Rallydesign site via a Google search. Pads seem to range in price widely. Also noticed that prices exclude VAT. Yes you have to pay it but it does show that different companies advertise differently. Rears will be similarly interesting as there are different options it seems. Ah I see, at £60 each with VAT its not worth messing with them. |
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Oct 18, 2021 18:10:48 GMT
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Your built motivates me to pick up the tools again and keep going. You get things done. I have been procrastination for weeeeks now. I am ready to pull things further apart and start building up again but I get distracted all the time. Keeping in mind that I only work 2 days a week.... Anyway, keep chipping away mate, I really like what you are doing and it keeps me going too... Morning Mate. Good to see you back, I noticed your absence recently. Glad to see you are getting on with things. Two days a week work sounds great, but even that has to be managed I am sure. |
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Oct 18, 2021 18:19:03 GMT
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To remove the pistons simply get a brake pipe fitting, tap it for a grease gun fitting from a ball joint or similar and then pump the calliper full of grease. This never fails but is a little messy. Once done clean out all the grease and then get the worst of the rust off the callipers and put them in a bucket of hot water with some citric acid. I've just done this on a pair of rear callipers from a jaguar 420 and they have come up great and are ready to rebuild. The only thing i've done that is a subject of contention is i've split the callipers in two to make it easier to clean them out. A lot of people say not to do this but an equal amount say its fine and I can't find any reason not to but it makes it easier to clean them out properly. Took a very quick look between meetings at the Rallydesign site via a Google search. Pads seem to range in price widely. Also noticed that prices exclude VAT. Yes you have to pay it but it does show that different companies advertise differently. Rears will be similarly interesting as there are different options it seems. Ah I see, at £60 each with VAT its not worth messing with them. Agreed. There is a point where you need to look at the time vs cost vs ego and a few other things. I think as part of the future proofing for a potential 200bhp/800kg it makes sense fitting new parts. Oooooopppss, did I say that out loudly ? |
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Oct 18, 2021 18:37:49 GMT
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To remove the pistons simply get a brake pipe fitting, tap it for a grease gun fitting from a ball joint or similar and then pump the calliper full of grease. This never fails but is a little messy. Once done clean out all the grease and then get the worst of the rust off the callipers and put them in a bucket of hot water with some citric acid. I've just done this on a pair of rear callipers from a jaguar 420 and they have come up great and are ready to rebuild. The only thing i've done that is a subject of contention is i've split the callipers in two to make it easier to clean them out. A lot of people say not to do this but an equal amount say its fine and I can't find any reason not to but it makes it easier to clean them out properly. Ah I see, at £60 each with VAT its not worth messing with them. Agreed. There is a point where you need to look at the time vs cost vs ego and a few other things. I think as part of the future proofing for a potential 200bhp/800kg it makes sense fitting new parts. Oooooopppss, did I say that out loudly ? I would say so  |
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Oct 18, 2021 19:35:08 GMT
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If they are that seized the pistons are probably past it as well, for an extra £20 each I would just get a new pair, I have just done the same on my range rover for £50 a corner it wasn't worth messing around. For the back be careful with those shoes, they look old enough to be asbestos. The drums were shared with various escorts and capris but there are different diameters so check which ones you need, they are a bit pricey (around £100 a pair), might be worth looking for a secondhand set. If it wasn't for the mot with the tiny amount weight on the back of this you could probably do away with the rear brakes and not notice it! Agreed Kevin, Those callipers never moved, there is a reason. I will measure up the rears an see what they need. Still need to see and figure f those units brought over by nickwheeler are suitable replacements, if mine need replacing. I think £100/pair is kind of in the same league-as the fronts. Of course the shoes and rebuild hardware will add to costs. |
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Oct 18, 2021 19:40:03 GMT
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...until you try and put the handbrake on ... And what fun that would be. ...until you try and put the handbrake on ... And no handbrake turns ! Anyway good to have a play and decide what's what but definitely made the right choice going for new brakes all round. On the drums is there enough meat for a light skim to get them back into the game ? (Not 100% sure you have two of them though). Lots of little steps forward. James James, I have a pair, one on, one off and really badly rusted. No odea what skim and clean of a drum with zero history would cost, but offsetting those costs vs a guaranteed set of new kit, I think the new wins this time. |
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