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Sept 23, 2020 19:09:50 GMT
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It’s a shame they’ve been left out in the weather to deteriorate, but that’s a really expensive set of VDO gauges that someone invested in. I was wondering about them Glen. Thinking that with a bit of caution, one may be able to resurrect them, restore the trims to a point of functional aesthetics. Of course I will give it a go. |
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Sept 23, 2020 19:11:09 GMT
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And they look to have done a pretty neat job of installing it all as well (wiring might be a differnt matter!), I don't think the filter king would have worked very well upside down though. Looking at bits on this body (Not really a car, is it) it seems to have been built to a decent spec. I hope we can build a decent, fun, toy, |
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Sept 23, 2020 19:51:47 GMT
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Thanks guys.
That is great info and Paul, thanks for the pics, really helpful.
Another reply elsewhere copied.
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glenanderson
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Sept 23, 2020 22:23:24 GMT
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I’m fairly sure you can get replacement bezels for VDO gauges if those ones are beyond salvage.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Sept 24, 2020 6:36:35 GMT
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you might be surprised with the bolts, it doesn't look like it has been used a lot might just be a lot of surface corrosion.
It looks a pretty straightforward project, the only curve ball could be the wiring, if water has got into the loom it all corrodes (the wires go black) and you can never really do anything with it (easily solved with a kit car loom or getting a full mx5 loom).
Fiberglass floors, well my Elan has one and its only about 5" off the ground seems to have survived almost 50 years with no major damage.
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Sept 24, 2020 6:44:52 GMT
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I’m fairly sure you can get replacement bezels for VDO gauges if those ones are beyond salvage. Older audis and 944s came with similar if not the same vdo gauges. I bought some to fit to a vw for about £40 from ebay. |
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Sept 24, 2020 13:45:07 GMT
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Last Edit: Sept 24, 2020 13:45:51 GMT by 89mustang
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Sept 24, 2020 17:22:17 GMT
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Never apologise for caring mate. I would have done some thread cleaning, as I have had nuts tighten up on the way out. These nuts and bolts have had 32 winters of abuse. I will have to approach with caution. So any advice happily accepted. Angle-grinder wire brush both the nut and bolt head ends Crack them loose with a long breaker bar. Undo them with a cordless impact wrench. At the first sign of rounding off, cut the nuts off and hammer the bolts out. Fitting new nuts and bolts is SOP right? |
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Sept 25, 2020 17:30:56 GMT
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I’m fairly sure you can get replacement bezels for VDO gauges if those ones are beyond salvage. Not looked into it Glen, but sounds like a great solution, despite my original plan being to minimise all, who knows..... it could end p more Starship Enterprise than Rezin Rockit. you might be surprised with the bolts, it doesn't look like it has been used a lot might just be a lot of surface corrosion. It looks a pretty straightforward project, the only curve ball could be the wiring, if water has got into the loom it all corrodes (the wires go black) and you can never really do anything with it (easily solved with a kit car loom or getting a full mx5 loom). Fiberglass floors, well my Elan has one and its only about 5" off the ground seems to have survived almost 50 years with no major damage. Up close there is a lot of Nasty corrosion and big chinks flaked off the nuts and bolt heads. I have realised that a new replacement loom is the way to go, just guarantees a lot less hassle long term. Floors, tbh not too bothered with them close to the floor, but need the support to be strong for seats I plan to fit. I’m fairly sure you can get replacement bezels for VDO gauges if those ones are beyond salvage. Older audis and 944s came with similar if not the same vdo gauges. I bought some to fit to a vw for about £40 from ebay. Cool. Thank you very much mate. I sent a PM yesterday, but no reply yet. I threw a wobbly, due to a couple of dickheds on Rods n Sods a year or so ago, and walked away, lets hope he replies. Never apologise for caring mate. I would have done some thread cleaning, as I have had nuts tighten up on the way out. These nuts and bolts have had 32 winters of abuse. I will have to approach with caution. So any advice happily accepted. Angle-grinder wire brush both the nut and bolt head ends Crack them loose with a long breaker bar. Undo them with a cordless impact wrench. At the first sign of rounding off, cut the nuts off and hammer the bolts out. Fitting new nuts and bolts is SOP right? Thank you. And yes, agree on a handful of new nuts and bolts. |
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Sept 25, 2020 18:00:05 GMT
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Nuts 'n bolts can be replaced with stainless where corrosion is a factor.
And because they look pretty.
I taped the threads and spun them in an electric drill to polish the heads,, many years ago.
But even unpolished they look nice.
Food for thought sir........
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Sept 25, 2020 18:19:01 GMT
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Nuts 'n bolts can be replaced with stainless where corrosion is a factor. And because they look pretty. I taped the threads and spun them in an electric drill to polish the heads,, many years ago. But even unpolished they look nice. Food for thought sir........ Oh dear , you've gone and done it now, thread derail on the use of SS bolts and tensile strengths etc etc due along any moment now ...... |
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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logicaluk
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Sept 25, 2020 19:17:57 GMT
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not so much the tensile strength that annoys me with SS but the galling, I find really....... Err whats the word, um....... irritating.
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Last Edit: Sept 27, 2020 7:32:30 GMT by logicaluk
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glenanderson
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Sept 25, 2020 23:24:49 GMT
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Galling. Where the nuts seize on the bolts through being overtightened.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Sept 26, 2020 5:36:05 GMT
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Nuts 'n bolts can be replaced with stainless where corrosion is a factor. And because they look pretty. I taped the threads and spun them in an electric drill to polish the heads,, many years ago. But even unpolished they look nice. Food for thought sir........ No plan to polish and spin heads. My head is already spinning. Original plan was: Quick n Dirty Nuts 'n bolts can be replaced with stainless where corrosion is a factor. And because they look pretty. I taped the threads and spun them in an electric drill to polish the heads,, many years ago. But even unpolished they look nice. Food for thought sir........ Oh dear , you've gone and done it now, thread derail on the use of SS bolts and tensile strengths etc etc due along any moment now ...... NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo..... !! Please don’t start them off ( Saying that..... Go on, tell me just how I should be doing all of thisnot so much the tensile strength that annoys me with SS but the gauling, I find really....... Err whats the word, um....... irritating. I was wondering what that meant. Galling. Where the nuts seize on the bolts through being overtightened. Thanks glenanderson I was wondering about it. Looking forward to splitting the body now. Once the carport is done, seems the steel guy has let me down. |
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eternaloptimist
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Sept 26, 2020 8:22:14 GMT
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Ah, that’s frustrating about the steel guy. I was looking forward to learning something new.
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jimi
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Sept 26, 2020 10:33:02 GMT
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Its not just overtightening that causes stainless to gall, a tiny particle of loose stainless ( or grit/ grinding dust) on the thread can cause a nut/bolt to lock solid.
Working offshore we used a lot of stainless, I've had occasion's where I've spun a nut onto a bolt fingertight, then started removing it only for the nut to lock solid and no amount of effort would remove it without ruining the nut & bolt.
Keep the threads clean and use a decent stainless lubricant and they are normally OK. Doesn't happen very often, but when it does it's usually at the most inopportune moment.
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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Sept 26, 2020 16:14:58 GMT
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Ah, that’s frustrating about the steel guy. I was looking forward to learning something new. No idea why he is failing, and he has had quite a few weeks. I need to contact or message him to ask him or tell him if the job is off, or that it is off. Roof should have been on by now. And because of him, my yard at the house, looks like this, not something I approve of.  Some stuff will be moved in the next week or so though. |
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Sept 26, 2020 16:15:51 GMT
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Its not just overtightening that causes stainless to gall, a tiny particle of loose stainless ( or grit/ grinding dust) on the thread can cause a nut/bolt to lock solid. Working offshore we used a lot of stainless, I've had occasion's where I've spun a nut onto a bolt fingertight, then started removing it only for the nut to lock solid and no amount of effort would remove it without ruining the nut & bolt. Keep the threads clean and use a decent stainless lubricant and they are normally OK. Doesn't happen very often, but when it does it's usually at the most inopportune moment. So what you really are telling me, is not to use Stainless. 😉 |
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Sept 26, 2020 16:56:18 GMT
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Saturday late afternoon. Back to bits n bobs that will make up this car. Looking for one of these, drivers side mirrors to buy or trade, as it does not look like you can get in there to replace the mirror (unless I did not look in the right place)  Codes on the rear. Advice on where to find the cheapest option appreciated.  Have managed to buy these two unused TRS circuit racing window nets today for £25.00 including postage. Which feels like a decent price. Seller is a cool guy too.  They seem to be good for a 10mm rod to thread them through.  So I hear you say “Why?” If I can find two pairs of original, or some kind of external bolt through door hinges to fit and then create the net doors I want to make up to hang from them, it would be pretty cool.  It will be smaller than the green illustration shows, nd I think a 120mm wide plate, top to bottom where the hinges are with a slight bent on the trailing end, to create a bit of airflow way from the interior, may work as well.  Mate craigrk and his wife and 8 yo daughter came over to visit today and check out the house market in this corner of Kent. He brought the various bits n bobs for people, including my “Free” bike lift. Looking forward to getting it under the Rockit chassis.  The other item he brought, which needs to be processed and made to work, is a WW2 trenching tool. This will be affixed to the rear of the car once I remove the spare wheel carrier which I am not intending to keep.  Almost 6.00pm Time for a Rum so I can be a pirate. ARRRR ! |
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Last Edit: Sept 27, 2020 9:58:00 GMT by grizz
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Sept 26, 2020 17:17:22 GMT
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that mirror is almost certainly a stock truck part. A trip to Aghabridge will sort a replacement quickly and cheaply. Cheap enough that you'll probably buy a pair so they match properly....
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