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Aug 15, 2020 13:04:37 GMT
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I know nothing about the car, so am probably wrong, but it strikes me as the kind of thing built to order. It doesn't feel to me like the customer built it, more like they gave the builder the ideas. It just lacks the cohesion of someone working to a vision. Build ThreadThanks! Knew I'd be wrong đ Nice to see the work behind it Seems full of potential with the world at it's feet in the early stages Makes me wonder if a few small changes would change my mind. Maybe change the colour, paint the bumpers, change the wheels and lower it a little. The headlights don't look so bad in primer. Edit... I see the bonnet has never fitted though đ
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Last Edit: Aug 15, 2020 13:05:28 GMT by VW
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Aug 15, 2020 13:11:06 GMT
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Looking at a few other pics from there, sadly it does go downhill for me. Bad fit on the bonnet Headlamps don't even sit properly in the apertures. Too many textures and colours outside. Paint, wood, pleather/vinyl. Why cover the roof in pleather? Why? And why is it a slightly similar but very different colour? Those little bumpers just look to small and feeble. They are not shaped to be part of the car they were clearly just purchased and tacked on. That door handle, ye gads! The panel gap piping is wobbly, and yet another colour. The wood. It's okay but it's not amazing. Looks a bit hand chiselled in situ in places. The guttering. The way the roof vinyl abruptly stops at a seemingly random point down the a-pillars. Who posted this up to say it meets their very high standards? Was it Europe's/UKs/Hampshire's greatest living restoration expert?
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Last Edit: Aug 15, 2020 13:17:56 GMT by Deleted
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Aug 15, 2020 13:13:26 GMT
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Thanks! Knew I'd be wrong đ Nice to see the work behind it Seems full of potential with the world at it's feet in the early stages Makes me wonder if a few small changes would change my mind. Maybe change the colour, paint the bumpers, change the wheels and lower it a little. The headlights don't look so bad in primer. Edit... I see the bonnet has never fitted though đ Ha! It actually looks 1000x better in early stage primer mode... as many things often do. It's not aimed for perfection and missed at this point. It's full of potential and looks plucky and ready for anything. I'd have kept it like it is in this pic personally.
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Aug 15, 2020 14:21:11 GMT
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I think of all the comments made directly about the wheels NudgerSS is spot on with his remark that they â Too 90âs touring carâ. Thatâs it,in a nutshell.
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Last Edit: Aug 15, 2020 14:23:02 GMT by Deleted
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Aug 15, 2020 14:45:17 GMT
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You build a car for yourself , nobody else I regularly get comments on the colour of our van I chose it I like it ,if others do not so what?? Tbh Iâm quite surprised at the comments on this forum Read the modus operandi, donât like? Donât comment A real shame to see the way this thread has gone
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Aug 15, 2020 15:44:17 GMT
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Its a shame the way this thread has descended into picking holes in the car and other peoples comments. I bet theres plenty of modified cars out there that have got a feature we'd like to do differently, but there seems to be an unfair focus on this one dispite all the hardwork thats gone into it to create a modified ride. Personally id be well chuffed if I was able to turn out a car like that. The builder had a vision, and he did it, if you have a vision, do it. But you know someones going to say they would have done something differently. Plently of people have had something negative to say about my Cube. I didnt build it, but I don't care, because if I didnt like it then I wouldnt own it.
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Aug 15, 2020 16:24:55 GMT
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You build a car for yourself , nobody else I regularly get comments on the colour of our van I chose it I like it ,if others do not so what?? Tbh Iâm quite surprised at the comments on this forum Read the modus operandi, donât like? Donât comment A real shame to see the way this thread has gone For a few pages, I had to check the web address wasn't for Pistonheads As said in the quote, M.O. states if you don't like something DON'T comment. And something about cats too! Bring on the cats!
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Aug 15, 2020 17:29:48 GMT
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You build a car for yourself , nobody else I regularly get comments on the colour of our van I chose it I like it ,if others do not so what?? Tbh Iâm quite surprised at the comments on this forum Read the modus operandi, donât like? Donât comment A real shame to see the way this thread has gone I think it was going that way right from the beginning. I know I'm guilty of expressing negative views too, but I pointed out what I did like too. I like the fact this place is inclusive and has very little slagging off, but a polarizing car and an initial expression of opinions was always going to lead down this road. For the most part, it could have gone worse! At least most folk have acknowledged what they do like.
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Aug 15, 2020 19:48:10 GMT
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The easy way to get a PCD for 5 stud, is measure the distance from the hub centre to a stud and double it.
That Green Javelin looks pretty cool, but the fancy wheels prove nothing. The front hubs have obviously been swapped out for 4 studs. I rather suspect it is now RWD and a V8 has made an unscheduled appearance. Nicely executed though and kudos for NOT having a massive bug catcher peeking through the bonnet!
Steve
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Aug 15, 2020 20:48:31 GMT
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Now that I've seen the buildthread, I like it a lot better. ( right up to the point where it goes into the paintbooth ) BTW, frenching Porsche headlights is pretty tricky. I did some on a '55 Sunbeam, long time ago...
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Aug 15, 2020 20:53:29 GMT
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Now that I've seen the buildthread, I like it a lot better. ( right up to the point where it goes into the paintbooth ) BTW, frenching Porsche headlights is pretty tricky. I did some on a '55 Sunbeam, long time ago... Now this looks good. Same headlight treatment, even similar wheel style, yet this sunbeam 'works'.
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Aug 15, 2020 21:02:17 GMT
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Thanks. I made that front out of straight sheet metal ( hammered it into shape, my coworkers hated me... ) Same with the rear, lengthened the doors, made a new windshield frame to lay it back, etc. Lots of work. Lost track of the car, not sure if it ever got finished...
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Aug 15, 2020 21:05:59 GMT
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Thanks. I made that front out of straight sheet metal ( hammered it into shape, my coworkers hated me... ) Same with the rear, lengthened the doors, made a new windshield frame to lay it back, etc. Lots of work. Lost track of the car, not sure if it ever got finished... I really want to try making a buck and hand forming a body at some point before I die. One day I'll have space to give it a try.
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Aug 15, 2020 21:09:43 GMT
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I hope you do man. Its very gratifying...
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Aug 15, 2020 21:29:32 GMT
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As the owner of a fairly standard Minor Traveller (at least, bodily), I quite like the overall look, particularly the pleasingly curvy shape to the front valence, but dislike the apparent removal of the rear seats, the overly large grille, and the wheels - it would look better on some nice deep-dish steelies, imho.
Some details with the woodwork and panel fit could have been done better, but bearing in mind they were rarely perfect when new, it's excusable.
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I think of all the comments made directly about the wheels NudgerSS is spot on with his remark that they â Too 90âs touring carâ. Thatâs it,in a nutshell. Oh my word, my life is complete. Take me now Lord.
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The easy way to get a PCD for 5 stud, is measure the distance from the hub centre to a stud and double it. That Green Javelin looks pretty cool, but the fancy wheels prove nothing. The front hubs have obviously been swapped out for 4 studs. I rather suspect it is now RWD and a V8 has made an unscheduled appearance. Nicely executed though and kudos for NOT having a massive bug catcher peeking through the bonnet! Steve Working it out mathematically from the way itâs measured in the photos,gets you in the region of around 186-187mm pcd, which, I think is in the same ballpark as the very early Landrovers. You can see why nothing fits! đ€Łđ€Ł. Itâs a huge pcd compared to todayâs standards... Having looked at the photographs of the brake drums,given their shape,they donât lend themselves to being drilled on a smaller pcd. And, what with the design of the bodywork and the way the wheels already fill the arches, you soon appreciate that there isnât any room for adaptor plates. So if you really were set on another set of wheels,it would involve another set of brake drums and the associated gubbins to make it all work,or custom brake drums...
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Last Edit: Aug 16, 2020 5:33:40 GMT by Deleted
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If only someone could come up with something that could maybe adapt hubs from one PCD to another. How excellent would that be. Might require people to understand how to measure PCDs correctly though.... Are smart ar$ed comments like this really necessary? So the man measures across two studs. So what? It doesnât make it wrong. I often do it like that on flanges when you have a shaft or a gearbox in the way. As very kindly pointed out by Darkspeed ,itâs a simple bit of maths to then convert it to a âproper pcdâ . Educate , donât intimidate. đ
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Thanks. I made that front out of straight sheet metal ( hammered it into shape, my coworkers hated me... ) Same with the rear, lengthened the doors, made a new windshield frame to lay it back, etc. Lots of work. Lost track of the car, not sure if it ever got finished... You Sir, are a very talented man đ
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You build a car for yourself , nobody else I regularly get comments on the colour of our van I chose it I like it ,if others do not so what?? Tbh Iâm quite surprised at the comments on this forum Read the modus operandi, donât like? Donât comment A real shame to see the way this thread has gone Thatâs it, pretty much. Strangely enough, colour doesnât dictate wether I like a modified car or not. I can appreciate the colour it is was chosen by the builder,not by me. I think most modified cars are never finished. They are always evolving. So, this rendition of the moggy may not tick all the boxes for me now. Thatâs not to say I wouldnât have it and change it to my taste. Itâs also not saying the next rendition with different wheels wonât tick all the boxes for me either. đ I like the colour your van is. Something a bit different đđ»
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