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Today was the day that gold wheels, new tyres and the Deliboy were united as one. The Tyres are Nankang AW-6 All-seasons sourced from Blackcircles, in a larger-than-standard but not ridiculous 195/55R15 size (same diameter as original 165/80R13). They will hopefully assist with getting through whatever Winter brings our way. Fitting was accomplished considerately and professionally by my local Halfords Autocentre, under the watchful eye of Gary. They removed a total of 6 universal (and hence floating-about) wheel spacers, torqued the nuts to a generic Japanese vehicle setting (seems fair), and informed me that one of my wheel nuts is missing. It looks a bit different now. Not only are the wheels and tyres a bit more realistic, but the rake of the van has reduced, due to no longer having dragster rear tyres and a significant front to rear tyre diameter difference. I think it's a big improvement. I dug around when I got home, and replaced the missing wheelnut temporarily with an original Toyota Accessory locking nut that came with my RAV4. I think I have more nuts somewhere, but it can wait until I've moved house. Pulled your post over to the new page for those who are following not to miss the update. Funny that the one thing visually I liked less was the original wheels, though they were part of that identity. I am liking the gold, and knew I would. New rake and visual is more normal too, and appeals to me. You are really getting on with doing this van justice.
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Aug 18, 2020 16:44:33 GMT
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If you haven't seen it (and why would you?) the perma-nasal AdamC was very taken by your van at Caffeine & Machine
You're famous!
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Aug 18, 2020 20:26:28 GMT
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Thanks to Grizz and Paul. I did see AdamC doing his thing at C&M, but I stayed well clear. Just as well, as I would have felt it necessary to correct his 'Club Penguin' nonsense... Here's my new tread pattern: Nice! I actually need to space the front wheels out slightly, as clearance to the upper arm and anti-roll bar is a little tight at full lock. It doesn't grind like the previous wheels, but it needs a little more wiggle room. Thruxton today was very silly. The Deliboy was there as support/understeer demonstration vehicle for the Mission Motorsport Skidpan day, wearing it's new Nankang tyres. With only the weight of the old wheels in the back and all 70hp to play with, it steadfastly refused to oversteer under my (lack of) control. Keeping the throttle pinned only resulted in understeer, and if I didn't pin the throttle, it just drove around as if it wasn't on a skidpan at all. This was in stark contrast to the many more powerful vehicles which slithered and spun left right and centre. I'm not disappointed, as it demonstrated that I have a reasonably safe set-up, and I won't be trying to catch an escaping tail while leaving a roundabout anytime soon. You don't really expect this view in a Deliboy:
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1991 Toyota Deliboy (RWD JDM LCV) - Now SOLD 1998 Lexus LS400 (RWD EUR VIP) - Also GONE 1989 Volvo 740 GLE (RWD EUR GLE)
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Sept 1, 2020 17:03:23 GMT
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Thanks to Grizz and Paul. I did see AdamC doing his thing at C&M, but I stayed well clear. Just as well, as I would have felt it necessary to correct his 'Club Penguin' nonsense... Here's my new tread pattern: Nice! I actually need to space the front wheels out slightly, as clearance to the upper arm and anti-roll bar is a little tight at full lock. It doesn't grind like the previous wheels, but it needs a little more wiggle room. Thruxton today was very silly. The Deliboy was there as support/understeer demonstration vehicle for the Mission Motorsport Skidpan day, wearing it's new Nankang tyres. With only the weight of the old wheels in the back and all 70hp to play with, it steadfastly refused to oversteer under my (lack of) control. Keeping the throttle pinned only resulted in understeer, and if I didn't pin the throttle, it just drove around as if it wasn't on a skidpan at all. This was in stark contrast to the many more powerful vehicles which slithered and spun left right and centre. I'm not disappointed, as it demonstrated that I have a reasonably safe set-up, and I won't be trying to catch an escaping tail while leaving a roundabout anytime soon. You don't really expect this view in a Deliboy: Love this pic. Nice treads too. Must make a huge difference
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Sept 2, 2020 13:08:55 GMT
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Cheers, Grizz. It's so much better now.
So, the whole moving house thing went well, although I clearly needed some help. Got the keys at 16:30 on a Friday afternoon, which is a little late to be starting such a large operation. However, I managed to move the garage stuff first (which I'd packed into the van the previous evening in preparation), and another load of just cardboard boxes of stuff on my own, and after that I needed to go home and sleep.
The following morning, I had reinforcements. I picked up my local friend Leo in the van, partly because he's a helpful chap, but also because he's very enthusiastic about unusual vehicles. He helped me move 2 sofas, which I knew would just fit in the Deliboy before I purchased it. After that, Jim, Tom and Brian turned up in the MM Van (which has approximately twice the carrying capacity), and we moved all the rest of my stuff in one hit. Great success!
At my new place, I have one parking space and a garage (which is amazing), so I had to make sure that at least one of my vehicles would fit into. As it happens, I'm pretty sure I can successfully alternate between the two. After some careful measuring, I concluded that the Deliboy would just fit under the open door, with plenty of room on either side. The bicycle hanging from the wall stuck out a little bit, but it's a bit better now that I've reversed into it and bent the wall bracket...
The next event in the Deliboy's life involved some accidental modification. While making my way around a fallen tree on one of the local roads, a wayward branch struck the passenger side mirror, and the old plastic proved to be a little brittle. Nothing broke off, but a large crack appeared, which in turn made the mirror a bit droopy. I tried to repair it in a subtle way with careful application of some old Araldite that I had lying around, but the age of the adhesive and the nature of the tensile forces acting on it (the mirror clamps onto it's stem) meant that the joint soon failed. I tried again with a much larger dollop of Gorilla Glue epoxy resin, and that seems to have done the trick. A little clumsy, but not out of character considering the vehicle it's attached to. We'll see how long this repair lasts.
Meanwhile, somewhere in Japan, a dispatch agent found the interior door handle I ordered a month and a half ago, and put it on an aircraft bound for the UK. I'd pretty much given up hope of receiving it, but all it took was a little nudge to the supplying company (Megazip), who had a word with their courier (Japanpost), and lo and behold it magically appeared. At my old house. I was able to use the Parcelforce tracking feature on the website to predict when I could intercept it at my old place, so all's well that ends well.
Comparing old with new, it's clear that 29 years of daily service had not been kind to the original part. The skin was split, the grain had worn away, it was loose and distorted and wobbly, and it generally looked like a tetanus update was required before using it. The new one is better.
Much better.
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Sept 2, 2020 18:47:12 GMT
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TessierAshpool
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1991 Toyota Deliboy TessierAshpool
@tessierashpool
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Sept 2, 2020 19:15:11 GMT
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Let’s hope it comes together enough to enjoy. New RR motto?
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Sept 2, 2020 19:18:47 GMT
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Let’s hope it comes together enough to enjoy. New RR motto? Made me chuckle. Not sure about everyone else, but certainly me.
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Sept 2, 2020 20:24:30 GMT
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Excellent work, Grizz! I'll keep an eye on that build. I'm mostly just repairing the Deliboy, so it will be interesting to see a proper pull it apart and start again approach.
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1991 Toyota Deliboy (RWD JDM LCV) - Now SOLD 1998 Lexus LS400 (RWD EUR VIP) - Also GONE 1989 Volvo 740 GLE (RWD EUR GLE)
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Trawling the internet, I stumbled across the Deliboy, presumably just after it had passed through the auctions in Japan. I particularly like the original wheels and the tape holding the door shut. However, that's not as impressive as the van Liquor Shop Ogawa used before. This image was located by a Japanese friend who saw my van on Facebook: It is, of course, a Daihatsu Mira step-through van. Even wackier than the Deliboy. Conversions are available if you really want to twist someone's melon:
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Last Edit: Sept 3, 2020 9:15:39 GMT by Flingstam
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Ha, I drove one of those a couple of times when I worked as a milkman in Dunedin in the mid '90s. It felt like something Mickey Mouse would drive.
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Sept 7, 2020 20:45:37 GMT
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Trawling the internet, I stumbled across the Deliboy, presumably just after it had passed through the auctions in Japan. I particularly like the original wheels and the tape holding the door shut. That may well be my photo, or at least I remember taking a very similar one on that day! It was at a car show in Pool, Cornwall, a good few years ago now and I fell in love with that van right there and then! Great to see it on here, you're doing a great job with it.
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Sept 11, 2020 20:22:13 GMT
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Trawling the internet, I stumbled across the Deliboy, presumably just after it had passed through the auctions in Japan. I particularly like the original wheels and the tape holding the door shut. That may well be my photo, or at least I remember taking a very similar one on that day! It was at a car show in Pool, Cornwall, a good few years ago now and I fell in love with that van right there and then! Great to see it on here, you're doing a great job with it. It could indeed be your photo, rigpig. I picked it off Flickr. The intervening years haven't been so kind to the Deliboy, as it looked a bit mintier back then. Anyway, this week has been fun in Deliboy-land. I installed earplugs and headed down to Goodwood to assist at the Mission Motorsport Invitational on Monday. The Deliboy confused, confounded, appalled and delighted in equal measure. For some reason, I had to stop on the way down for a photo opportunity. I was directing traffic. Easy enough when the drivers are paying attention, slightly more tricky if the opening part of their windows is at knee-height. I bent over to suggest where this visiting F1 should park, but quickly ended up on hands and knees after realising I couldn't lean far enough without falling over: Did the Deliboy look out of place there? Yes. Yes it did. However, that didn't stop the owner of this cop car wanting to buy it off me. Clearly he's even more deranged than I am. Lots of weird and unusual car photos were taken. Understandable, as it's not every day these two vehicles are in close proximity: After packing up, I headed to my overnight accomodation in Horsham via Arundel, because it's not every day that you can park your JDM delivery van in a medieval setting: The reason for taking the Deliboy and staying overnight was so that I could stop by Ace Engineering on Tuesday for more eating biscuits and watching Gareth fix things. The primary objective was to swap over the seized aircon compressor for one I'd sourced from my new friends in China. They didn't include any instructions, but they did send me a lovely photo of Tom Chilton pointing at a tiny sticker on his BTCC car, which is almost as good. The new compressor was intended for a Land Cruiser, but as the main case was the same and there was only a small difference in pulley offset from the Deliboy type, it was mainly a case of Gareth swapping the top plate with it's piping connections and also draining and re-filling the R134a refrigerant. Top Job. Ice cold. Very pleased :thumb: You can also see the new fuel filter in that photo, which was far easier to fit than I expected. Not just because Gareth did it. The 5K engine has 3 auxiliary belts, but my attempt at sourcing 3 equivalents was only 66% successful. The old Alternator belt had to go back on, as the generic one I purchased was a little too generic. A more specific one will be sourced as part of the large order I'm about to place with my favoured supplier in Japan. I'm going to try to find some time this weekend to pore over the Deliboy (in between assembling IKEA furniture) and finalise the list of replacement parts. This will take a couple of weeks to get to me, and then there will be a further flurry of activity once it arrives (and hopefully I'll have sorted out the garage a bit more by then). Stay tuned!
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Last Edit: Sept 11, 2020 20:23:10 GMT by Flingstam
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SamV8
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Sept 12, 2020 11:18:06 GMT
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Lots of weird and unusual car photos were taken. Understandable, as it's not every day these two vehicles are in close proximity: and I can provide a very tenuous link between these 2 cars, the Deliboy has a 1.5 engine option (code 5k) just like the Toyota Sera built in the same years (although the Sera engine is a 5E) and the Sera was the inspiration for the doors on the Mclaren
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I'm really getting the hang of ordering parts from Japan, but they've starting arriving a little out of sync, due to having to wait for parts to be made. First to get here was this vitally important device: The knob had fallen off the old one, so it was little difficult to operate. On top of that, there was a lot of drag in the mechanism, so I had to investigate. All it really needed was some silicon lubricant on the glass runners, and it was as smooth as you would expect, so that was nice. The driver's door is now complete. And beautifully trimmed. While in Halfords recently, I was overcome with desire for a new powered device, so picked up a wireless compressor which uses the same battery pack as my drill, impact driver, buffer, etc. It makes a change from fighting with the cable of the 12v socket powered one, which is now in the boot of the Lexus for emergency use only. While doing a random check after driving the other week, I noticed that the front offside wheelnuts were very hot. This indicated a bit of brake binding. As I was taking someone to a local garage, I booked it in for a second opinion. In the meantime, I managed to free off the brake a bit myself. As I was doing this, I popped the bonnet to check the brake fluid reservoir and noticed a significant lack of coolant. Something had sprung a leak. After topping up the coolant, I started the engine and tried to track it down. Soon enough I spotted a drip drip drip from a heater hose at it's connection to the thermostat housing. Judging by the state of the clamp, it had been tightened before. More than once. It's in the area at the centre of the spotlight in this photo: So, I dropped the van off with Victor the mechanic, who isn't scared of weird Japanese offerings (his daily driver is a 1990 Prelude with 4 wheel steering). He confirmed that there was only one leak, and threw on a replacement hose, taking care to by-pass a rusty section of water pipe at the same time. He also confirmed that I'd freed off the caliper enough, but 2 of the other brakes were a bit seized. I've now ordered parts to refurbish the front calipers (replacements are not available) and replace the rear brake shoes and wheel cylinders. Drum brakes frighten me, so I'll do the fronts and Victor can do the rears. My ex asked if I could donate/recycle some household items, since I have a vehicle which can easily accomodate rolls of carpets and a complete dining set. Among them was a wildly-patterned carpet off-cut which she suggested could be used to upgrade the mats in the Deliboy. Say no more... They look a little ill-fitting in those images, but that's just due to them still being a bit curled-up when cut to size. They've relaxed a bit now. Next, another delivery from Japan. This included a heater blower resistor pack, increasing my fan speeds back to 4 from 2. It helpfully fits into the blower assembly in front of the passenger's left ankle, so no major disassembly was required to fit it. While I was there, I also checked the blower fan itself, and it doesn't contain any woodland animals, leaves or gravel, so that's nice. I also acquired replacement pedal pads, and even the little grommet which massively reduces the amount of faffing around I do whenever I have to prop open the bonnet. Note that the grommet displays it's own part number.
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Last Edit: Nov 2, 2020 15:31:20 GMT by Flingstam
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The piéce de la resistance of the Japanese care package was the replacement passenger wing mirror. The old one was fairly sturdy after my third attempt at a repair using layers of tape, but it didn't look great. I could have gone for a like for like replacement, but while the entire Toyota back catalogue was open to me, I plumped for a upgrade using a later Deliboy part, which not only had an extra mirror, but a funky dog-leg in the stem too. It is magnificent... Some items I couldn't order were a little disappointing, due to not all parts for a 30 year old van still being in production or available NOS. The most significant is the wiper mechanism. Both variants applied to the Deliboy are not available, and used parts haven't appeared recently either. Before the next MOT, I will have to Frankenstein something together, and I've ordered a similar Hiace part from China to experiment with (it cost me £12.40, so it was worth a gamble). Watch this space for further developments. The spacers fitted to accomodate (poorly) the previously oversized wheels were more than a little shoddy. Not only were they universal items which floated about on the hubs, but they weren't even all the same shape: I only needed 5mm spacers on the front to provide comfortable clearance for my slightly-wider-than-standard tyres, so sourced some hub-centric ones with the specific PCD and centre bore precision-machined in the UK. They are a significant improvement. While on the ramps with Gareth months ago, he pointed out that the front crossmember looked a tad suspicious. It appeared that someone (probably the original importer) has spotted a few rust spots, and decided to just throw underseal over it rather than treating it properly. Hence it was my job to scrape it off and do a better job. It was a low bar to clear, fortunately. However, my scraping and prodding has revealed a slight issue... This was the giveaway that things weren't ideal: And this is an hole: Professional assistance will therefore be required to patch that before I finish de-rusting and painting. It's not a Transit, though, so hopefully there aren't many other horrors hiding down there.
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Last Edit: Nov 2, 2020 16:01:21 GMT by Flingstam
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Mirror is pure sex, love that.
Rust...? Pffftt.
You got this.
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mk2cossie
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love this quirky little van Although seeing that cable tie not cut flush fills me with dread (and the hub covered in copper grease as well, as that relies on clamping forces and friction. the copper grease messes with all that )
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love this quirky little van Although seeing that cable tie not cut flush fills me with dread (and the hub covered in copper grease as well, as that relies on clamping forces and friction. the copper grease messes with all that ) I'll sort out those issues, just for you. The cable tie wasn't done by me, of course. The rest of the wiring for the LED rings around the headlamps would probably give you palpitations. It ain't pretty.
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1991 Toyota Deliboy (RWD JDM LCV) - Now SOLD 1998 Lexus LS400 (RWD EUR VIP) - Also GONE 1989 Volvo 740 GLE (RWD EUR GLE)
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Mirror is pure sex, love that. Rust...? Pffftt. You got this. If that's the most serious chassis rust, I will consider myself the luckiest man in the world.
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