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Jul 15, 2020 16:15:58 GMT
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Not strictly a barn find, but good enough to shelve any plans of doing any Hotwheels anytime soon. Yesterday, my Boss tasked me with dealing with some bits and bobs that were his fathers (also my Boss (RiP Sir)) who sadly passed away last year. These bits included some tools, some model railway bits ,nothing spectacular and will be dealt with in due course, mainly because I have something else to happily occupy my time with. Its not a bad, grainy picture, its just grubby, and coooooooool A little bit of research suggests that its far older than I first thought, but ive yet to work out if the dates are for the car on which its based on, or the model itself. The original plan was to ebay it for him, but I cant bring myself to do that, it seems a bit of a waste. Its well patinad, bits are comming loose and its not in one piece. There is a small pile of parts that come with it, but until its back in one piece I cant tell if its complete. So, instead of selling it, ive tasked myself with giving it a sympathetic restoration, simply because I want to, I shall then hand it back and they can decide what to do with it. It will probably need afew nuts and bolts which should be easy enough, but parts that are particular to this car might be a pain to get if it really is 90 years old. These are most of the bits that came with it It also comes with instructions and an original unused lighting kit. Possibly rarer than the car itself. The bulbs are still stuck to the inside of the box. The windup mechanism doesnt seem to work properly, but it does have the key. I plan to keep its patina but clean it enough to tidy it up and paint a couple of pieces that have lost their paint completly, they are only brackets but will help with the overall appearance. There are afew bits that are bent, but should straighten easily enough. Really looking forward to this.
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Last Edit: Jul 26, 2020 19:34:24 GMT by bmcnut
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Jul 15, 2020 17:30:39 GMT
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Very cool indeed. I the idea of the restoration and returning it to the family as a nice reminder of their father.
If it is as old as you think it has survived in a remarkable condition.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:29:04 GMT
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I have a load of old meccano in the loft, around the same era as this. It normal meccano kits though, but if you need any nuts etc I can see if I have any the same.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:05:41 GMT
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I have a load of old meccano in the loft, around the same era as this. It normal meccano kits though, but if you need any nuts etc I can see if I have any the same. Stuff like this makes this forum invaluable. Id otherwise know nothing about getting this right. You have a PM
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Jul 15, 2020 19:21:31 GMT
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Very cool indeed. I the idea of the restoration and returning it to the family as a nice reminder of their father. If it is as old as you think it has survived in a remarkable condition. I think it is as old as I think it might be. The kit was available in different colours, and slightly different versions. I don't know if this was different releases at different times, or different kits available at the same time. It makes it difficult to age it for sure, but I'm as sure as I can be that its pre 1940. VW would you be able to help date it any better than me? The body is in great condition, its only light surface rust. I havnt decided on the best way to deal with the body, I could simply wash it and leave it at that, but ive had the idea to go over it lightly with black boot wax, just to make it a bit blacker, or if theres something else i can use. The last thing I want to do is ruin it, so i thing the best idea would be to take it to bits, and wash it with a spot of detergent to see exactly what ive got.
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fulvia1436
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Finally started a thread for my Fulvia life
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Looks like something "The Repair Shop" would love to take on. There may be an off-air approach to some of their "experts"?
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'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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Very cool indeed. I the idea of the restoration and returning it to the family as a nice reminder of their father. If it is as old as you think it has survived in a remarkable condition. I think it is as old as I think it might be. The kit was available in different colours, and slightly different versions. I don't know if this was different releases at different times, or different kits available at the same time. It makes it difficult to age it for sure, but I'm as sure as I can be that its pre 1940. VW would you be able to help date it any better than me? The body is in great condition, its only light surface rust. I havnt decided on the best way to deal with the body, I could simply wash it and leave it at that, but ive had the idea to go over it lightly with black boot wax, just to make it a bit blacker, or if theres something else i can use. The last thing I want to do is ruin it, so i thing the best idea would be to take it to bits, and wash it with a spot of detergent to see exactly what ive got. Hi, I would suggest beeswax instead of boot polish, although boot polish contains beeswax and other waxes of different kinds I'm not sure you need to colour the paintwork. The beeswax will cover the rust chips and stop them deteriorating further and will keep the patina 'honest', and let it show through. Colin
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Jul 16, 2020 11:58:42 GMT
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That's fantastic, if I were you I'd be tempted to try and buy it off them if they don't want it.
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Jul 16, 2020 14:40:25 GMT
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That's fantastic, if I were you I'd be tempted to try and buy it off them if they don't want it. When it comes to buying and selling for people, I always prefer to buy things, and then sell them, rather than sell on someones behalf, it keeps things simple that way and means I can deal with it in any way I see fit instead of hoping and wishing I'm doing the right thing for them. In this case it seems right to be 'repair shop' and do it for them, especialy as someone at work also said 'its like something you find on repair shop' to which I said ' I'm like the 5th member of repair shop!' . Also, I'm finding it very difficult to value, i don't want to rip them off, and I also don't want to pay too much for it. As it stands Id prefer to simply enjoy doing it, and let them decide what to do when I hand it back. Working for them is one thing, but doing something like this which is a bit more personal to them, and right up my street, is just better. Last night I took it apart and so far I have found 2 minor issues. 1) when I removed the grill, the chrome fell of like glitter all over my hands. Luckily there is a second alternative grill with it that I shall fit instead. 2) the rear wheels are attached to the axle with grubscrews, which are tightened before the tyres are fitted, but the rear wheels were off the car and the tyres are so knackered that I'm never going to get them off without ruining them, they are hard and brittle on the outside, and feel soft and gooey on the inside, much like an Armadillo. Dispite that, they look ok and match the overall patina perfectly. It is impossible to do the grubscrews up without taking the tyres off first, so in this case bodging it might be my best option, gluing the wheels to the axle. The car wont look any different, and will operate absolutley fine. Call it hobsons choice if you will. My only other option would be to get some black tyres for it, and that would ruin my intentions of making it complete and 'original'.
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Jul 16, 2020 15:02:26 GMT
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How big are the wheels?
I'll go up in the loft later and have a quick look. You never know!
I was given boxes of meccano, from vintage to modern, about 5 years ago. I never even looked at it, just stuck it in the loft.
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Jul 16, 2020 15:31:16 GMT
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1.5in wheel, 2in tyre Just a thought, might this be the most retro car on retro rides? lol
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Jul 16, 2020 15:41:15 GMT
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I'll check. I don't remember seeing any, but you never know. I need to put some stuff back up there later anyway.
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Jul 16, 2020 15:54:52 GMT
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Super thanks. TBH I'm feeling very Meccano at the moment, id be interested in seeing any of the vintage stuff
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Jul 16, 2020 16:00:37 GMT
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I'll take some pics. A lot has gotten mixed though, or to be more precise, the boxes have all broken and A lot of contents are all over the loft floor 😂
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Jul 18, 2020 16:35:23 GMT
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Ive got the car in bits now and all parts are cleaned Ive got some other bits still soaking in Coke Now its in bits ive realised the car can be built in a variety of ways. Long wheelbase, arches with running boards and boat tail, which is how it came. But I noticed there are 2 extra holes in the running boards and extra holes in the chassis. There is also a removable panel between the seat and the tail. This means it can also be built as short wheelbase. And arches without running boards, and theres also a rounded, shorter rear end. Unfortunatly there are only 3 arches without running boards, so I will be building it as it arrived. The only difference will be the grill. The spare one is in better condition than the original one. Tonights mission will be to sort the driver out. The paint has turned into a powder, and when i tried to clean it a fair bit of paint came off. He still looks ok in that respect, but hes covered in chips on the gloves, skid lid, the brown collar has worn off, bits of detail are missing. I was hoping not to do any paint at all but in this case he really will look better if I do some minor bits to smarten him up without restoring him. I will definatly be needing some nuts and bolts, there was also an argument in the office last week with several saying meccano ALWAYS has square nuts. This doesnt, it has normal hex nuts. I don't know if the threads are different to square nuts, but id like to use hex nuts if I can to keep it original.
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Jul 18, 2020 17:21:32 GMT
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Hi, I can certainly remember the nuts being square when I was using it in the 60s. Screws were cheese head and the thread was 5/32" British Standard Whitworth. If they aren't then maybe someone has replaced them in the meantime.
Colin
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Jul 18, 2020 17:49:10 GMT
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Hi, I can certainly remember the nuts being square when I was using it in the 60s. Screws were cheese head and the thread was 5/32" British Standard Whitworth. If they aren't then maybe someone has replaced them in the meantime. Colin Thats handy to know the size thanks. There is one of these cars currently on ebay and shows the same hex nuts that this has. Also, looking at the instructions all pictures that show the nuts, show hex nuts, as can be seen on the front wheel and handbrake here I'm as sure as I can be now that this is a 30's car. In other news, the bulbs in the 90 year old headlight kit STILL WORK!
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jyd
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Jul 18, 2020 18:19:19 GMT
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That really is a thing of joy
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Jul 18, 2020 19:11:57 GMT
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Hi, I wonder if it's made by someone else for meccano, and branded and marketed by them.
Colin
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jyd
Part of things
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Jul 19, 2020 18:14:27 GMT
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It does have quite a German look to it.
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