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Jul 14, 2020 18:17:25 GMT
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Like I said in my 'new member introduction', I'm pretty lazy when it comes to writing about my projects. I guess this one's a bit easier though, since the actual work on this particular car isn't that involving. Also, it's pretty hard to find project stories about old Opels in general, especially if they're not the Manta B variety. Keeping that in mind, I'll try to add some of my own in the world wide web, for someone that might be interested. So, I've had a running Manta B for a few years now, and almost the whole time I've craved for a 70s Opel to accompany it. I first bought a '75 Ascona A project, that turned out to be rustier than expected (when has that ever happened?). The Ascona has turned into a long term project but I still kept my tabs on the ads. Then I found the subject of the story. It was an unfinished turbo project, five hours from where I live but the price was right. I got on the phone and negotiated on the price of the roller, without the half finished turbo CIH. I've never been that interested in forced induction, least of all on a 70s "mid size" Opel saloon. It just doesn't fit the image in my mind. Main criteria for buying this Rekord were that it had no real bodywork issues, and that the seller could back that up with project photos. Also, a good thing was that I was practically the third owner of the car, and the first owner or his son had it from new until about 2010, and it had sat in barn from 1994 to 2010. Likely because of that kind of sheltered life, it had been spared from being mistreated and driven in the winter. One full day of driving got it home, from the eastern part of Finland. It looked good from five meters away but like the seller admitted, he had half-assed the prep work, and then painted the car himself in less than desirable conditions. The color was just some yellow off the shelf and had a bit too much green in it for my liking. I had my mind set on some kind of factory yellow. So the same day we picked up the car, I dropped it off to my friends home for a re-paint. The goal was to fix the previous mistakes and change the color to Opel's 'Signal Ocker'. I decided to leave the engine bay untouched for now. I guess I should point out, that as solid and unmolested as this car is, I'm not going to stress out on every little detail on it. I already know what it's like to own a car like my Manta B, where I get all sweaty when I realize I have to get off of the tarmac and onto a dirt road, or if it's going to start raining etc. I'm not cutting corners with this one but let's just say that not every spot of surface rust is going to get the sand blaster/epoxy/urethane treatment. It's not like it's going to see any road salt, during my time of owning it. Here it is the way I bought it. And this is after my friend had his way with it. That's all I have time for now. Is anyone interested in seeing more of this?
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Just Opels for now..
'75 Ascona A (project) '83 Manta B '72 Rekord 2D sedan (sold)
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dazcapri
North East
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Jul 14, 2020 18:46:24 GMT
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More Please
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Mk3 Capri LS
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teaboy
Posted a lot
Make tea, not war.
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Jul 14, 2020 19:02:25 GMT
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That’s a really good looking car.
What are your plans for it?
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bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member
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1972 Opel Rekord 2D sedanbstardchild
@bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member 71
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Jul 14, 2020 19:30:47 GMT
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Yes please - hoping it will inspire me to get on with my 72 commodore B 2 door coupe (close relation)
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Jul 14, 2020 20:06:30 GMT
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When I saw Opel Rekord in the readers rides list my eyes nearly popped out of my head. Love Rekord Cs and Ds! I have a Rekord C Coupe awaiting some TLC. So yes....more please....I'll be looking forward to the updates 👍🏻
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Opel Commodore A Coupe Opel Rekord C Coupe Opel Rekord C Saloon Vauxhall Magnum Coupe V8 (Magnumania) Mk1 Scirocco GLS Mk1 Scirocco GLS (early chrome bumper) Corrado G60 Mk1 Cortina 2 door Pre Airflow Mk2 Escort 1300 2 Door VW LT35 Tipper Truck BMW 320D E91 Tourer
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Jul 14, 2020 20:17:08 GMT
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Definite YES to more, looks an interesting project 😎
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Jul 14, 2020 21:10:25 GMT
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That is stunning I want it.
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A handsome car; the low beltline makes the glass/greenhouse look deeper and quite a bit more modern than its contemporaries. For the experts: were these designed during Chuck Jordan's time is
I'm looking forward to more.
John
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Never heard of one before (must be my ages haha).. quick look at both those pictures had me clicking on eBay.
Bookmarked
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Jul 15, 2020 11:18:48 GMT
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Never heard of one before (must be my ages haha).. quick look at both those pictures had me clicking on eBay. Bookmarked If you haven't already, I strongly recommend viewing bstardchild build thread on his Commodore B. Its virtually the same car but with the bigger engine option.
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Opel Commodore A Coupe Opel Rekord C Coupe Opel Rekord C Saloon Vauxhall Magnum Coupe V8 (Magnumania) Mk1 Scirocco GLS Mk1 Scirocco GLS (early chrome bumper) Corrado G60 Mk1 Cortina 2 door Pre Airflow Mk2 Escort 1300 2 Door VW LT35 Tipper Truck BMW 320D E91 Tourer
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1972 Opel Rekord 2D sedanpeteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jul 15, 2020 11:56:22 GMT
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Is the Record the euro version of the Mk1 Cav?
The rear body reminds me of that with different wings, bonnet and grill.
Nice clean sharp lines on the car.
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Jul 15, 2020 14:29:49 GMT
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Alright, nice to hear that my writings won't be in vain. This will be a sort of retrospective story for a while, before we catch up to the current situation.
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Just Opels for now..
'75 Ascona A (project) '83 Manta B '72 Rekord 2D sedan (sold)
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Jul 15, 2020 14:51:45 GMT
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That’s a really good looking car. What are your plans for it? My plans are to build the car as a reasonably clean, functional cruiser with a reliable drive train. It's going to be quite low, for looks only but still driveable for long distances. It'll be a car where we can take our dog in (impossible thought with the Manta). My hope is to just get the car MOT'd this summer and maybe drive some of the demons out of it before the winter. Pretty much like this.. -Stock Opel 2.0 CIH -Twin 40 mm Webers -Stock points ignition -Stock cast iron exhaust manifold with 2" pipe -Getrag 240 gearbox -Rekord E prop shaft -Stock, open rear end (don't know about gears as of now) -Original interior -K.A.W. lowering springs, or cut MB W124 springs -Stock shocks -Some Chinese, classic style aluminum wheels @ about 15-16" x 7,5-8", ET 10-20 So nothing fancy and nothing remotely modern. Although, I might just install a wideband lambda, to help with the carb tuning.
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Just Opels for now..
'75 Ascona A (project) '83 Manta B '72 Rekord 2D sedan (sold)
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Jul 15, 2020 14:56:31 GMT
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Is the Record the euro version of the Mk1 Cav? Not really. The Mk1 Cavalier is a relative to the Ascona/Manta B, which share the basic technical layout between them. I guess the FE Victor could be considered as a relative to the D Rekord.
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Just Opels for now..
'75 Ascona A (project) '83 Manta B '72 Rekord 2D sedan (sold)
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Jul 15, 2020 17:13:58 GMT
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Always liked that shape of Rekord, what a good looking car! The CIH engine is pretty strong engine its just a shame they never had a crossflow head
The FE Victor is very similar underneath from the bulkhead to back axle mountings, so close on axle mountings you can use the Rekord stuff, that's todays useless information!
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Jul 15, 2020 18:54:56 GMT
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After getting the car home, I started off with the basics. Brakes were shot and the reservoir was empty, so it was time for new drums, shoes, cylinders, discs, pads and fluid. I got the smaller 238 mm front brakes, that were installed on the early Rekord D models. I think it was around '75 when Opel upgraded the front discs in most of their models to 246 mm. At this point, as I can't leave anything well enough alone, I started chipping off the dried up undercoating. With sweaty palms, I anticipated for the spatula to hit a rusty spot underneath at any minute. Luckily I didn't find any holes. What I did find though, were some of the rust repairs done in previous years. Some of the patches were obviously pretty old but all of them had been done well, and I had no reason to cut them open. It took a day and a half, laying on my back under the car, to scrape off the old undercoating. I only did the floor area of the car for now, as I needed to get it sorted out before I installed the engine and gearbox. The rest I left for later. Here's some photos of the underside. I've honestly couldn't believe my luck, as this must be the healthiest underside I've seen on a vintage car. The car must have been rust proofed when new, and babied after that. I can't complain! You can probably see that black, welded piece of sheet metal on the topside of the transmission tunnel. That was done by the previous owner, when he fitted an R25 five speed gearbox from an Omega A. There's nothing wrong with the R25 but I had a couple of Getrag 240's laying around and anticipated less hassle with the prop shaft using one, so I chose to put one of those in instead. Before we get to the gearstick modifications, here's a couple of photos of the underside after I painted it with epoxy primer and then with some black metal paint. Thinking about it afterwards, the epoxy was a bit of and overkill since the original paint was in such a good condition. Oh well, it's done now. As the underside was now ready to receive the engine and transmission, I decided to look into the issue with the gearstick placement. So the hole in the transmission tunnel was measured for the R25 gearstick. I now had to make the Getrag's stick sit in the same place. Below we have the two 'boxes side by side. R25 on the left and Getrag 240 (with the longer, Rekord E stick housing) on the right. As you can see, on the Getrag the stick sits a few centimeters farther back. After eyeballing the difference, it was then a matter of removing the shifter axle from the Getrag and shortening it. I then found a Manta B Getrag stick housing from my stash, which is shorter than the Rekord E one. So I used that, as it fit without any modifications and the length was just right. Here are both of the gearboxes again, after the modifications. Seems to be close enough. After I got the Getrag sorted, it was time to focus on the engine. Nothing special about that really. Just a 2.0E CIH that I've had laying around for years. Some scrathes on the cylinder walls got treated with a blade hone. I changed all the bearings and slapped it together with old piston rings. This engines main purpose is to get the car moving and later down the line, I'll put more effort in maybe a 2.2 CIH. Next up, throwing in the engine with the transmission and some prop shaft modifications.
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Just Opels for now..
'75 Ascona A (project) '83 Manta B '72 Rekord 2D sedan (sold)
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Jul 15, 2020 18:57:17 GMT
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If I were to choose my favourite Rekord body style, this would be it. Don't see them too often. Keep up the good work! BTW: What's up with the 6-digit black number plates
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Citroën DS 21 '66, Renault 16 TS '73, Scimitar GTE '74, Audi 80 '87, Merc 190E '88, Peugeot 205 GTI '88, BMW 735iL '89, Merc 230TE '89 , BMW 320i '92
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Jul 15, 2020 19:08:59 GMT
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If I were to choose my favourite Rekord body style, this would be it. Don't see them too often. Keep up the good work! BTW: What's up with the 6-digit black number plates Hahah, you got me there. That was THE first thing my mates gave me grief for (one of them is a MOT engineer). It's sorted now, and I have the original five digit, black plates for it. For other's wondering what this means. 1972 was the last year in Finland, when the black number plates were issued for cars. After that, they were changed to a white plate with black numbers, just like today. The thing is, the original black plates were always three letters and two numbers at most. So no six digit plates existed. The plates in these photos must have been a fluke of some kind. Someone, somehow talked to an attendant over at the MOT center to give out black, six digit plates. I guess that's not really that uncommon but it's not "right" either, and it looks weird. So there's a bit of useless information for you all.
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Just Opels for now..
'75 Ascona A (project) '83 Manta B '72 Rekord 2D sedan (sold)
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bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member
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1972 Opel Rekord 2D sedanbstardchild
@bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member 71
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Jul 15, 2020 19:32:15 GMT
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Bloody hell - I've never seen one that good!!!!! Here's a good example of what mine was like underneath
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