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ferny
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yeah ive seen that one, ruled the makita clone one out.
Seen some reviews of some other cheap ones and they don't seem too bad, certainly cover what i want a small one for.
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I got an 18v 420Nm one off eBay about a year ago - some Chinese make I'd never heard of. More powerful than the Clarke 24v one it replaced in that it will quite happily undo wheelnuts torqued to 120Nm. For occasional use, it's great.
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No experience with the impact wrenches but I have a palm router made by a company called Katsu. Not badged as a mikita or claimed to be one but everything will inter change. Half the price and had had a years professional use without any issues. Comparing moulding marks etc I would say that it has gone down the same assembly line but with a different colour for the plastics.
I would beware of anything with the claims of battery capacity in the third link as you know it's a lie there's no way to get that capacity into a battery that size, it's claiming four times the actual capacity of a DeWalt battery that size!
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Jul 14, 2020 10:53:11 GMT
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ferny
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Jul 14, 2020 15:20:07 GMT
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For 60% more you can get the Sealey one. I've yet to test the one I bought the other week but I still feel more comfortable than buying the one you link. Simple because I can shout at the company over the phone if I need to in a year or two.
I'm not knocking your choice, because I can't. Just giving another perspective.
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Jul 14, 2020 19:25:53 GMT
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Had anybody spotted one of the cheaper ones that take DeWalt 18v/ 20v max batteries?
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Jul 18, 2020 11:37:59 GMT
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For 60% more you can get the Sealey one. I've yet to test the one I bought the other week but I still feel more comfortable than buying the one you link. Simple because I can shout at the company over the phone if I need to in a year or two. I'm not knocking your choice, because I can't. Just giving another perspective. After laying on my back fitting a towbar on my mates van i impulse bought one, even just for winding the bolts in and out after loosening them would have saved loads of time. - Dayplus model. You are right, I'm abit annoyed at myself, you can get sealey 400nm ones for about £90-100 which are a better option i think. Ill see what this ebay one is like if its curse word, ill send the thing back after making a yoyube video review of it. Ill either get a sealey or go the whole hog and get a dewalt gun, two batteries and a grinder aswell for about £375 to £400, i like the options of more tools on the same batteries. Ill let people know what its like when it arrives.
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Jul 19, 2020 20:23:59 GMT
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Ive got one of the makita clones, but i have a makita drill and charger already. Working on the car is a lot easier with it, made taking the motor out of my e61 very much easier.
It dosnt do crank pulleys etc, but then again, ive a big bar for doing those.
You can do so much damage with these guns, and this one is good for most stuff.
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Jul 22, 2020 11:19:32 GMT
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Right this came yesterday, bit of playing with, it wouldn't undo my wheel bolts - i tested them and they have been up too tight - about 200nm.
So new a nut and bolt in the vice, torqued up and highest it did was 170nm.
Quality it looks good, nice finish etc.
There is one other review video of it and it also fails to undo wheel bolts, but he does go on to add that after a few uses it got more powerful and now does them easily.
Going to see what the seller has to say and them get a branded one.
The sealey 400nm one looks good - still abit dubious is will be close to 400nm tho.
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Jul 22, 2020 12:00:53 GMT
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i got a matika clone as it runs on the batteries i already use. its handy for smaller jobs and saves having the airline to contend with which always seems to be in the way!
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Jul 23, 2020 16:06:47 GMT
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well i told them it could only do 170nm and they straight away offered to refund 50% or i could send it back at there expense for full refund.
So for £26.45 ill keep it, should be fine for the smaller jobs.
handy if any one wants a £26 small impact gun. - i think batteries are same as makita too.
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Jul 24, 2020 14:54:47 GMT
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Used it today to change all the engine mounts on my mates 2006 renault master, using normal sockets it undid and tightened everything with no fuss at all.
If you can get one for £26 its a bargain if it lasts a year.
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I've had a Chicago Pneumatic aluminum housing with steel front cover and Single dog clutch. packs a good punch and is small enough to fit in tight spaces. I mainly use this on crankshaft bolts.
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ChasR
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The Makita Clone is superb value for money. It will undo wheel nuts, but it will take its time to eventually crack them. They do have to be torqued up right or it will struggle to undo them.
I'd go as far to say that it makes Kielder's 430Nm look a little pricey.
Both however do make working around the car alot easier.
If you need something to undo anything on the car, you'll need the beefier offerings from the big boys like DeWalt, Makita and Milwaukee. The DeWalt DCP899 of mine has really proven its worth.
I didn't half wince at the price when I bought it, but it did a job where at the time I needed it done.
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Dez
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ChasR I bought A dewalt 899 because I needed to swap the rear axle on a merc sprinter. It proved its worth on that job alone. If you’ve already got batteries £160 is cheap for what it can do. It’s far too big, heavy and powerful for average day to day use though, unless you’re mech-ing on trucks or something. For general ‘smaller stuff’ I use a dewalt 887, which is the 1/4” hex impact driver which came in a twinset with a drill. With a couple of adapters to 1/4” and 1/2” hex it does everything up to and beyond wheel nuts easily, as it’s 205nm. Just make sure you buy the dewalt adapters, it snaps literally all other brands (including Milwaukee) like twiglets 😂
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ChasR
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Agreed there Dez. Like you, I bought mine just to do the 2CV wheel bearings. It was well worth it for that. I have no idea how the retainer on the disc was that tight. Maybe the bearing had been gone for a long time? Looking into that, it seems people get the largest bars they can (in addition to old driveshafts!) to undo those retainers mind you, unless they have a hefty wheel gun. It is on the heavy side however. On the M3, when I did both the prop and the rear brake lines, my arm didn't half start to ache a little when I was using it! Good to hear about the 887. I didn't buy that as I was so dissapointed with the Kielder. It literally struggled with crank bolts, most wheel nuts despite being torqued correctly, and so on. I do however now have a lazy option. Impact ratchet, just to speed things up.
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Last Edit: Aug 9, 2021 22:14:29 GMT by ChasR
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Dez
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For any one interested, Some vaguely scientific ‘testing’ of the 887 when I got it- merc sprinter wheel bolts are 190nm, and a torque wrench confirmed they were done to spec before I undid it. I was very impressed, as it’s obviously putting out the numbers that dewalt claim.
It certainly ain’t lacking it power, it snapped the Milwaukee adapter in half on the next one 😂
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Keep your eye out for Lidl's Parkside one when it comes up, £70 well spent, has undone stuff I would have struggled by hand to do (bottom pulleys, shock bolts). Very pleased with it
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