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Splendid!
Now, please tell me how you explained to your wife that you needed to hire a van to go and pick up an engine for the truck you bought so that you wouldn't have to hire vans in the future? I am looking for tips here....
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Last Edit: Apr 1, 2021 20:22:32 GMT by wildrover
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Is that one from a late 940 with EGR and Hydraulic tappets as well? I seem to remember from when I converted my 740 from petrol to diesel finding that there were a load of improvements made when they added the EGR which meant I’d lucked out on the best of the bunch by getting one of that type. Can’t remember what the improvements were - something to do with the water pump and timing belt arrangement perhaps? I know they’re not quite the same level as the merc engines, but I have a big love for the D24 and a nice one should be plenty of motor for your van. Stunning metal work by the way. Thanks for the inspiration to keep on at the endless weldathon I have on my drive! Rich Hi Rich, Thanks... I appreciate it 👍. The bodywork has been one massively endless task, so this new engine is a bit of a welcome break from it all. Yes, I believe this engine is the later version with the hydraulic tappets etc. On the the camblet cover theres a factory sticker with a date of 1994 on it. I've read that all 940s after 92 had the improvements such as the hydraulic tappets. I'm not sure what all of those improvements are as there seems to be a lot of difference in opinion when I had a brief look at a link that took me to a Volvo forum. A few people have asked why don't I put something like a 1.9 TDI in it. The answer is because they're not 6 cylinder......you just can't beat the sound of a 6 cylinder turbo diesel. The D24 TIC sounds great with straight through stainless pipes. I'm still on a learning curve with these engines, so any tips, pointers or advice would be very welcome. Dan
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Splendid! Now, please tell me how you explained to your wife that you needed to hire a van to go and pick up an engine for the truck you bought so that you wouldn't have to hire vans in the future? I am looking for tips here.... Well.....here's how it's done..... firstly you create a diversion so big, that anything after it looks like your trying to resolve the situation. So....in my case, all of the excuses, grovelling and upset happened back in August when I told my missus that the extension to the house would have to be delayed for at least another year as the truck that I'd bought 'specifically' to help with that task was no longer MOT-able and would need a lot of time and money thrown at it. As you can imagine, she wasn't best pleased. She was genuinely upset about it and really not happy with me for ages. But amongst all the anger......was opportunity!! It meant that I can now use the pending extension as a levering tool. So.....when I hired the van to go and get the engine for the truck yesterday, it wasn't about how this would benefit me or truck.....no no.....it was all about being one step closer to the house extension 😎😎😎 It's not all roses though.......everytime I'm sat round trying to chill, I get nagged at for not hurrying up and getting the truck finished 🙄🙄. You can't win them all!!!!
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matfenwick
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you just can't beat the sound of a 6 cylinder turbo diesel. The D24 TIC sounds great with straight through stainless pipes. I would agree with that; here's mine from 13 (how can that be?!) years ago, which I've still got. I was in the middle of a minor welding job by your standards, hence the missing panel. I've had it for 15 years so picked up a bit of knowledge, so would be interested to see how much the Volvo version differs.
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Sometimes, others may not understand why you like a car so much. Sometimes, you may not even understand why you like a car so much. But none of that matters; all that matters is that you like the car, and having it makes you happy.
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tofufi
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It must be getting on of a year ago that tofufi and I were messaging back and forth about the D24 TIC and the possibility of an engine swap on the truck. tofufi actually managed to find me one on a Facebook add. But despite it being the right engine etc, I just didn't have the time or funds at that particular time. Plus, at the time, I had no idea what a massive project lloyd would turn into. ... In time, I'll give it a strip down and refurbishment. I'll probably get the turbo rebuilt as well. But for now....I'm just well chuffed that the wheels are in motion. Great stuff Can't remember if I mentioned before, but I've got what I believe is a full set of tools required to do the cambelt and injection pump belt on one of these, including the pump timing kit and an original cambelt tension gauge tool. Bought it for mine as I'll need to do the belt soon I've also got a spare Volvo intercooler and probably some pipework if it's any use I'm glad your seller doesn't have the gearbox from that car advertised, otherwise I'd be sorely tempted... as a spare/upgrade (mine is 4+OD, that one would be 5spd) I'd probably never need!
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Last Edit: Apr 2, 2021 8:41:32 GMT by tofufi
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This is a thread that really just keeps giving.
Every time I check in, it’s a grin maker.
Thanks.
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you just can't beat the sound of a 6 cylinder turbo diesel. The D24 TIC sounds great with straight through stainless pipes. I would agree with that; here's mine from 13 (how can that be?!) years ago, which I've still got. I was in the middle of a minor welding job by your standards, hence the missing panel. I've had it for 15 years so picked up a bit of knowledge, so would be interested to see how much the Volvo version differs. Yes!!!!!........now that's what I'm talking about . Thanks for sharing 👍
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It must be getting on of a year ago that tofufi and I were messaging back and forth about the D24 TIC and the possibility of an engine swap on the truck. tofufi actually managed to find me one on a Facebook add. But despite it being the right engine etc, I just didn't have the time or funds at that particular time. Plus, at the time, I had no idea what a massive project lloyd would turn into. ... In time, I'll give it a strip down and refurbishment. I'll probably get the turbo rebuilt as well. But for now....I'm just well chuffed that the wheels are in motion. Great stuff Can't remember if I mentioned before, but I've got what I believe is a full set of tools required to do the cambelt and injection pump belt on one of these, including the pump timing kit and an original cambelt tension gauge tool. Bought it for mine as I'll need to do the belt soon I've also got a spare Volvo intercooler and probably some pipework if it's any use I'm glad your seller doesn't have the gearbox from that car advertised, otherwise I'd be sorely tempted... as a spare/upgrade (mine is 4+OD, that one would be 5spd) I'd probably never need! I have a pump timing kit from when I did the camblet last year. The kit also came with the bar that locks the rear of the camshaft......but I don't have a belt tension gauge 🤔🤔 I've read that the Volvo intercooler won't fit the LT? Apparently the LT needs a long narrow one that sit across the panel under the grille. Might be interested in the pipe work though, as very little of it came with the engine 👍 The seller claimed he had nothing else left.....but I did wonder about the gearbox myself. If I'm right, I believe they were fitted with the M90 box?? Apparently a very strong gearbox. I wondered if I could adapt the gear linkages on the truck to work with one of those? It's all very well swapping out the engine for something with a bit more power, but my gearbox and diff are still going to hold it back.
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This is a thread that really just keeps giving. Every time I check in, it’s a grin maker. Thanks. No.....thank you 👍 I'm glad you're enjoying it all......it makes it all worthwhile 😃
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Yes, I believe this engine is the later version with the hydraulic tappets etc. On the the camblet cover theres a factory sticker with a date of 1994 on it. I've read that all 940s after 92 had the improvements such as the hydraulic tappets. I'm not sure what all of those improvements are as there seems to be a lot of difference in opinion when I had a brief look at a link that took me to a Volvo forum. A few people have asked why don't I put something like a 1.9 TDI in it. The answer is because they're not 6 cylinder......you just can't beat the sound of a 6 cylinder turbo diesel. The D24 TIC sounds great with straight through stainless pipes. I'm still on a learning curve with these engines, so any tips, pointers or advice would be very welcome. Dan Totally agree with the ‘because it’s a straight six’ justification. My experience with mine has been (bear in mind I parked the car four years ago) that it was a wonderful characterful engine that was actually reasonably economical and pretty reliable. Mine had done over 200k miles when I stripped the parts car and I did another 60k before I parked it. Insurance for a 23 year old with a 2.4 litre modified car was too much for me but it will be back sometime and better than ever. I hope you have as good a time with yours as I did with mine. Rich
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This update is a very recent once......in fact it happened today! I've been temporarily side tracked from the relentless bodywork ....and why??? Well...... I've only gone and bought the wagon ( lloyd ) a new donkey!!!! Good lad, seems to make sense when you explain all of that! What power and torque did you have before, and what will this give?
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and agreed, ultimately it makes sense to do all of this work now, do the extension using the truck and then convert into a race car transporter..
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1987 Supercharged BMW R1150 Citroen 2cv Hillclimb Monster 1995 Renault Master Mk1 Race Transporter 1994 Mazda MX5 Mk1 / NA Road Going Class Hillclimber 1991 UMM Alter II Crew Cab OM606 SuperTurbo Diesel MegaUMM Overlander 1992 UMM Alter II Station Wagon 1980 UMM Cournil - survivor - resto project 1979 Lomax 224 2014 VW T5.1 Transporter Kombi Highline
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Yes, I believe this engine is the later version with the hydraulic tappets etc. On the the camblet cover theres a factory sticker with a date of 1994 on it. I've read that all 940s after 92 had the improvements such as the hydraulic tappets. I'm not sure what all of those improvements are as there seems to be a lot of difference in opinion when I had a brief look at a link that took me to a Volvo forum. A few people have asked why don't I put something like a 1.9 TDI in it. The answer is because they're not 6 cylinder......you just can't beat the sound of a 6 cylinder turbo diesel. The D24 TIC sounds great with straight through stainless pipes. I'm still on a learning curve with these engines, so any tips, pointers or advice would be very welcome. Dan Totally agree with the ‘because it’s a straight six’ justification. My experience with mine has been (bear in mind I parked the car four years ago) that it was a wonderful characterful engine that was actually reasonably economical and pretty reliable. Mine had done over 200k miles when I stripped the parts car and I did another 60k before I parked it. Insurance for a 23 year old with a 2.4 litre modified car was too much for me but it will be back sometime and better than ever. I hope you have as good a time with yours as I did with mine. Rich Thanks 👍......Yeah, they've definitely got character. Even the original non turbo D24 that's still in the truck use to put a smile on my face. With the non turbo, you really do have to 'drive' it. As long as you can keep the revs and the speed up it was actually nice to drive. The problem always came when going up hill with a load on the back. Hopefully, this TIC should put a spring in it's step!
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This update is a very recent once......in fact it happened today! I've been temporarily side tracked from the relentless bodywork ....and why??? Well...... I've only gone and bought the wagon ( lloyd ) a new donkey!!!! Good lad, seems to make sense when you explain all of that! What power and torque did you have before, and what will this give? Well.....the max figures I've found for the original non turbo D24 ( ACT ) are 68 BHP at 3400 rpm and 107 lbf at 1600-1800 rpm......all of that explains why it's so hard to overtake cyclists....seriously. The Volvo D24 TIC max figures are ......( they vary amongst engine codes, but these figures are for the variant I believe I have )....... 127 BHP at 4650 rpm and 184 lbf at 2400 rpm. So not breathtaking power, but hopefully a very noticeable difference once it's in the truck. Obviously the gearing on the truck doesn't help with any sort of speed, but of course geared for heavy loads. I might look into a better ratio diff......if I can find one.
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Obviously the gearing on the truck doesn't help with any sort of speed, but of course geared for heavy loads. I might look into a better ratio diff......if I can find one. I found going from 3.54:1 to 3.31:1 in my 740 gave me a couple more mpg and made it quieter at motorway speeds Surprising what a big difference gearing can make! (Even more so on my T2...)
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The power being at higher rpm will be better matched to the low gearing for performance, worse for fuel economy in top gear and nvh, but in many other respects it's probably not the vehicle for long motorway journeys or a refined driving experience anyway.
I regularly drive a Transit with 110ps and that flies along but it does have around 220lbft of torque.
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My Land-Rover jumped from 62 bhp and 106 lb-f with its original 2.25 diesel to 110bhp and 148 lb-f and that made a huge difference to drivability. It also allowed a significant jump in gearing, which made another big difference.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Hi Dan, Great attention to detail as always. You must feel you are getting somewhere now. Keep up the great work and you will soon have it done! All the best, Norman
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