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Putting this here as I have not bought anything for 2 years and I almost forgot. Always check the MOT history - www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/Was being tempted by this - Very good photos, looks ok, always liked this shape of Panda www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-PANDA-100HP-ABARTH/264736366509Even got to the 'How can I get to wales' train of thought! Now, lets see about this MOT - Won't be that bad..... MOT INFO: Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects): Front Brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii)) Repair immediately (major defects): Rear Registration plate lamp inoperative in the case of a single lamp or all lamps (4.7.1 (b) (ii)) Exhaust hydrocarbon content after 2nd fast idle exceeds default limits (8.2.1.2 (b)) Exhaust emissions likely to be affected by an exhaust leak front manifold to front section (8.2.1.1 (b)) Nearside Front Coil spring fractured or broken (5.3.1 (b) (i)) Nearside Front Shock absorbers has a serious fluid leak (5.3.2 (b)) Rear Vehicle structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced both n/s and o/s sill (6.1.1 (c) (i)) Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (3.5 (a)) Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories): Offside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge inner (5.2.3 (e)) Rear Coil spring corroded both (5.3.1 (b) (i)) slight play both front drop links
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Some 9000's, a 900, an RX8 & a beetle
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Know what you mean. It just screams "badly looked after, if at all" doesn't it!
Remember a couple of months ago I was casually looking at SLKs and saw a pleasant looking one. The previous MOT failure sheet was like a list of what could possibly go wrong: steering issues, perished rubber items, rusty rear subframe, worn tyres and broken springs. I didn't have the money anyway but it certainly shows what a pretty exterior can hide!
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Last Edit: May 23, 2020 7:32:37 GMT by mrbounce
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stealthstylz
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I don't see the problem? It's listed at 650 quid whereas they seem to sell for over a grand normally.
Couple of patches of welding, 160 quid coilovers off eBay, a bulb and a exhaust gasket would get it done and looking cool for a lot less than a grand.
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ferny
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I don't see the problem? It's listed at 650 quid whereas they seem to sell for over a grand normally. Couple of patches of welding, 160 quid coilovers off eBay, a bulb and a exhaust gasket would get it done and looking cool for a lot less than a grand. "FANTSTIC LITTLE CAR, DRIVES GREAT BUT EXHAUST IS BLOWING AND WILL NEED AN M.O.T..." Drives great, with dangerous brakes and knackered suspension.
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IIRC from when I was looking at these, they came from the factory on knackered suspension (from a ride quality point of view) and there's a potentially huge bill not shown up by an MOT, which is the heater flap? £6-700 if I'm not mistaken?
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May 23, 2020 10:17:45 GMT
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Even got to the 'How can I get to wales' train of thought! Don't bother, Wales lockdown still tight with police stopping traffic for checks and fining motorists making non-essential journeys before sending them home, (sometimes without their car).
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May 23, 2020 10:19:09 GMT
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Excuse my ignorance, mr2fc, but how is a heater flap £600. ? 😳
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MiataMark
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May 23, 2020 10:20:39 GMT
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Don't bother, Wales lockdown still tight with police stopping traffic for checks and fining motorists making non-essential journeys before sending them home, (sometimes without their car). errr how do people get home safely without their car, public transport which we're meant to be avoiding (or is that just England)?
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May 23, 2020 10:34:21 GMT
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Don't bother, Wales lockdown still tight with police stopping traffic for checks and fining motorists making non-essential journeys before sending them home, (sometimes without their car). errr how do people get home safely without their car, public transport which we're meant to be avoiding (or is that just England)? I'd assume they'd need to phone a cab, those poor sods still have to work. If you've made it as far as a more rural part of Wales you're not going to get a bus or train. If someone's ignoring lockdown in a car which isn't road legal I'd struggle to feel too sorry for them!
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stealthstylz
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May 23, 2020 10:41:50 GMT
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I don't see the problem? It's listed at 650 quid whereas they seem to sell for over a grand normally. Couple of patches of welding, 160 quid coilovers off eBay, a bulb and a exhaust gasket would get it done and looking cool for a lot less than a grand. "FANTSTIC LITTLE CAR, DRIVES GREAT BUT EXHAUST IS BLOWING AND WILL NEED AN M.O.T..." Drives great, with dangerous brakes and knackered suspension. It probably will still drive great. I drive vehicles going for MOTs pretty much every day as we do customer collection and they pretty much all drive absolutely fine (or as good as they ever do depending on model) even when they go on to absolute horror shows of MOT fails.
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May 23, 2020 11:13:20 GMT
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It needs a fair bit of work but that's about half what the cheapest one's used to be on for!
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May 23, 2020 11:25:41 GMT
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You could probably sell the arbath exhaust for a few hundred quid.
650 seems like good value in my opinion, it's all fixable stuff for little cash.
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May 23, 2020 12:09:50 GMT
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Although it’s always best to check the mot history It does grate me when an mot tester puts severe corrosion on an mot A good few years ago I owned a mint low mileage Sierra The tester failed it on what he called severe corrosion within a structural mount area of the car I remember getting home and wiring brushing it off to find absolutely no holes or bad corrosion, but it ended up in its mot history Needless to say I never used that particular garage again
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May 23, 2020 13:46:49 GMT
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Excuse my ignorance, mr2fc, but how is a heater flap £600. ? 😳 It was a while ago I was looking at them, but I think the flap that breaks is not available separately, and is non-glueable, apparently?
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May 23, 2020 13:52:59 GMT
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May 23, 2020 14:05:23 GMT
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[br Thanks, looks like I’ll be steering clear of them then!
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May 23, 2020 14:46:34 GMT
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MoT history check is always my first port of call, just gives a flavour for how the vehicle has been looked after...lots of silly faults that could/should be checked before taking in,or lots,of previous corrosion puts me off(seen dodgy repairs too often so default assumption is they will be). Unless its a rare/unusual car, step away.
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May 23, 2020 14:49:31 GMT
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Although it’s always best to check the mot history It does grate me when an mot tester puts severe corrosion on an mot A good few years ago I owned a mint low mileage Sierra The tester failed it on what he called severe corrosion within a structural mount area of the car I remember getting home and wiring brushing it off to find absolutely no holes or bad corrosion, but it ended up in its mot history Needless to say I never used that particular garage again Had the same with the Capri - one garage our put there was corrosion to the sills, which makes it sound like a basket case
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May 23, 2020 15:23:26 GMT
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MoT history check is always my first port of call, just gives a flavour for how the vehicle has been looked after...lots of silly faults that could/should be checked before taking in,or lots,of previous corrosion puts me off(seen dodgy repairs too often so default assumption is they will be). Unless its a rare/unusual car, step away. Yes but that could mean lots of things, for example, say my daughter drives her car for a year, during that year it may/will develop faults. I can absolutely guarantee she ain’t fixing them. She takes it for test, tester lists faults & then she says ok fix it & mot it. All will be listed but don’t mean they haven’t been fixed
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tofufi
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May 23, 2020 16:13:41 GMT
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All will be listed but don’t mean they haven’t been fixed But, with the best will in the world, that does indicate that the owner doesn't care too much about maintenance of the car... I'd much rather have a car from an owner who notices when tyres are going bald and replaces them before the MOT, or notices when bulbs are out and replaces them, as it also means they're likely to have noticed when the oil level was getting low, or when it started making that odd rattling noise, and dealt with it when it happened...
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Last Edit: May 23, 2020 16:14:40 GMT by tofufi
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