Brigsy
Part of things
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May 17, 2020 10:36:42 GMT
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I have always gone by the approach, expensive oil is cheaper than a new engine.
Most people get it when i tell them that too.
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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@dez
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May 17, 2020 11:04:38 GMT
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Weight and composition are far more important than brand and price.
You need the right thing for the engine you have.
Age is the other factor. It’s been proven scientifically (and is kinda common sense) that two lots of cheap oil are better than one lot of expensive oil on anything other than a brand new car.
A lot of late 90s/early 2000s motors need very specific weights or they throw their toys out the Pram- Zetecs and mx5s with noisy followers and VW PDs with cam wear due to using too thick oil Being prime examples. An oil change to the correct weight and composition can be like fitting a new engine in a lot of them.
The older you get, the less things matter in terms of quality, as the oil technology they were designed for was primitive by modern comparisons anyway. Hell most pre-50s stuff doesn’t even have a filter! For ‘50s engines designed to use SAE30 mineral oil, any single weight is going to be fine. It’s when people start putting multigrade and synthetics into an engine not designed for them that problems occur.
In a pinch, any oil is better than no oil, and will prevent major damage in the short term. If you’re got something that’s off the bottom of the dipstick or you got a major leak and need to get home, go to the nearest supermarket and sling the £4 oil in it. But put the right thing in once you get home and have fixed it.
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Last Edit: May 17, 2020 11:11:56 GMT by Dez
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djbthatsme
Kinda New
are there any Carltons or Senators knocking about
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May 17, 2020 17:37:41 GMT
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I am an ex mechanic and believe in using the right oil for the job. The idea of using oil drawn from a drum to fit all leaves me with a shudder. There are specifications appropriate to each vehicle and mixing and matching is not a wise move, if you consider what the worst case scenario could be. You save a few bob at one end of the scale with the likelihood of terminally damaging the engine at the other end. Its your choice but be warned of the possible outcomes.
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Ryannn
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@blackbelt1990
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May 17, 2020 21:45:42 GMT
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I buy my oil from a place locally that gets it from the same supplier as millers. It’s practically the same thing and is half the price!
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Part of things
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May 18, 2020 11:37:42 GMT
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I am an ex mechanic and believe in using the right oil for the job. The idea of using oil drawn from a drum to fit all leaves me with a shudder. There are specifications appropriate to each vehicle and mixing and matching is not a wise move, if you consider what the worst case scenario could be. You save a few bob at one end of the scale with the likelihood of terminally damaging the engine at the other end. Its your choice but be warned of the possible outcomes. Going back to my previous post when I mentioned my weeks work experience at a garage and MOT Centre I’d say we serviced around 20-30 cars that week of various makes which all got the same engine oil used, As a car mad 16 year old work experience kid I thought it was the wrong oil to use etc The 2 old boy mechanics that ran the place didnt really care |
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May 19, 2020 15:49:08 GMT
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just an addage , went to tesco,s today [ bournemouth ] and yes it is £4 , until you look closely its £4 per litre the 4 litre bottle is actually £16
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Phil H
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@philhoward
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May 19, 2020 19:31:40 GMT
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just an addage , went to tesco,s today [ bournemouth ] and yes it is £4 , until you look closely its £4 per litre the 4 litre bottle is actually £16 The 2 litre bottles are actually £4 - £2 a litre. A few months ago the 4 litre was the same price as the 2 litre (£8). |
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Sept 28, 2020 11:14:21 GMT
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Needed some top up oil for my 79 Camaro, went to Halfords as I thought they sold Valvoline but couldn't see that make, this was the only thing that looked ok, got to be better than running low.
Anyone else use this, or avoids it.
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Last Edit: Sept 28, 2020 11:37:57 GMT by shagracer
Please don't throw litter, take it home.
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Sept 28, 2020 11:15:31 GMT
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Please don't throw litter, take it home.
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jamesd1972
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Sept 28, 2020 13:59:31 GMT
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Ryannn
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Sept 28, 2020 15:26:43 GMT
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Probably 75% of mini owners use this. |
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Sept 28, 2020 18:43:48 GMT
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Interesting discussion, I've pretty much always used comma oils and never had any problems, cams and bearings on the elan looked perfect when I checked a couple of years ago but then they all tend to get changed every 2 years which is typically a max of 2000 miles.
My old series Land rover used to get through a gallon every 1000 miles that got what I drained out of the others but still kept going (until the engine was eventually changed).
I do have a problem on the V8 range rover, when I changed the steering box I knocked the top off the oil pressure switch, with the new one the light flickers when it is hot and stationary in drive (about 600rpm) no knock rattles or rumbles though. New comma 20/50 didn't affect it, I wonder if VR1 might help.
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