v8ian
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Apr 25, 2020 14:39:59 GMT
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I have been very fortunate with my neighbours, I have had one complaint from the woman next door, when I started my v8 Zodiac on open headers in the garage that was under her house, I apologised, and that was the last she said, but she did move about 6 months later, As a rule, I'm never out in the Garage/workshop making noise before 11, and my curfew is 6, as I understand people do like to sit outside in the evenings, and also have children that go to bed early, I have said to all my neighbours past and present, that if I am making too much noise, please tell me, and, IF I am making noise after 6, its because I need to get something finished urgently, never heard a whisper for 30 years.......
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Apr 25, 2020 20:36:51 GMT
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Really helpful comments here guys, thanks so much. Will take on the advice to keep a calendar, will keep work strictly between 11-6, try and do louder work in garage, and keep checking with other neighbours for noise etc. Will also try to avoid Sundays (not religious but accept if other are I don't want to cause issues, plus I'll use Sundays for light work in the garden and spend time with my pregnant partner).
Incidentally two other neighbours knocked on the door today to specifically tell me to ignore her, get the car back on the drive and crack on. One even gave me a case of beer and the other has given me 4 new wheels and as much firewood as I want. So ironically one nasty complaint from one neighbour has let me to getting much more friendly with several others. (Social distancing was in place, chatting across the street (cul-de-sac).
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Last Edit: Apr 25, 2020 20:37:30 GMT by arsonist
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Noise complaint from neighbour Dez
@dez
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Apr 25, 2020 21:10:51 GMT
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That would suggest to me she’s an expert at rubbing people up the wrong way, and they’ve had ‘experiences’ with her themselves...
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Apr 25, 2020 21:49:55 GMT
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Thankfully I don't have any of those types of neighbours, but I have worked with those types of people. From my experience, the chances are if you think they are being unreasonable, you're probably not the only one. Give it time and a number of 'situations' will have one common factor.
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Apr 26, 2020 17:29:03 GMT
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I have terrible trouble with my neighbours, they hammer and bang on the walls at all times, sometimes even 2 o'clock in the morning.
Some nights I can hardly hear myself drilling.
I will get my coat....
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Apr 26, 2020 18:43:00 GMT
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My neighbours are constantly listening to loud music every day..............not sure if they want to though I'll get my coat......
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kenb
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Apr 26, 2020 18:46:38 GMT
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I'm very fortunate where I currently live, that the neighbours are a fair distance from the actual garage and workshops on my property. However I am very aware that any noise made still travels. As someone mentioned curfews, I do try to stick to self imposed time constraints, to avoid the possibility of any complaints or ongoing wars etc etc. On the rare occasion I want to do something late into the evening, I make sure its a quietish job ie no grinders or hammering and that the doors are closed up. To date all is good.
I did once rent a house that had built in garage and little in the way of a drive. Whilst i didn't get any complaints per se, the neighbour, who had been there many years and to whom my house was attached made me very aware of acceptable times to be making a noise and when not. It wasn't ideal and thankfully, only a stop gap until the house I was buying at the time was ready.
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Last Edit: Apr 26, 2020 18:47:38 GMT by kenb
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Apr 26, 2020 18:58:07 GMT
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As long as your not doing it between the hour off 11pm to 7am in the morning, out side of that she can do nothing, your hobbying
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Jul 31, 2020 20:34:25 GMT
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Police won't be bothered in the slightest, council will be. However all they will do is talk you see what your doing and maybe install sound monitors in the complainants house to see what level your at, the 11pm to 0700 is a bit of a red herring as in law has on bearing on noise complaints.
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93fxdl
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How about looking at this from another perspective? You were relaxing, carrying out some diy in your garden when you found yourself being confronted by a aggressive person who proceeded to threaten you, leaving you feeling traumatized, suffering stress from a fear that anything you do or don't do could provoke another assault Ttfn Glenn
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Now that's an interesting perspective, so many variables as to which way that would go.
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cjj
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How about looking at this from another perspective? You were relaxing, carrying out some diy in your garden when you found yourself being confronted by a aggressive person who proceeded to threaten you, leaving you feeling traumatized, suffering stress from a fear that anything you do or don't do could provoke another assault Ttfn Glenn That's near enough my situation where I live. One elderly neighbour complains when we do anything in the garden (because she chooses to sit next to the boundary fence at the bottom of her garden), and another pair live in another realm of pathetic altogether. Ironically, if I make the slightest noise our noisiest neighbour's yappy little annoying dog goes off (normally over loud music), and they start shouting (all adding to the noise), but it'll be the drop of a spanner that is the problem
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Having other neighbours onside can be one of the greatest benefits. I lived for many years in an old terraced cottage, surrounded by countryside. I also worked during the week down in Swindon and stayed in a little country pub where I got to know the local gamekeepers pretty well. So on a Friday night, I head home with the back of the Range Rover full of game and Saturday, pluck, paunch or do what ever else needed doing in the back yard. Then I'd distribute various stuff to my neighbours. Then a new neighbour arrived, a Ffiona if I remember, and immediately complained that she was offended, even though she'd have to stand on a stool in her kitchen and crane her neck near breaking point to be so. Another neighbour, in her eighties, born and lived in her house all her life, proper owd Cheshire, heard the new one giving me carp one day and just let fly. I seem to remember something along the lines of, "Tha's an incomer and useful for nowt and if tha don't like the way we do things 'ere, curse word off back to where tha come from." End of issue! She never did get to try saddle of Muntjac though.
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I could write a book on the subject from very first hand experience (including police attendance / local authority intervention / legal challenges) - I reside opposite the most unreasonable & selfish neighbour that you are ever likely to come across - Most of the points have already been stated by others but to clarify Keep a note of the dates & times worked - personally I would not start before 09:00 hours and I would ensure that you are completed by 18:00 hours Police will not be interested - they will just refer her to the local authority There is no such body has 'The Environmental Agency' - there is 'The Environment Agency' However you are not operating a business that requires a environmental licencing nor are you polluting the area to an extent that they need be involved - so they are not interested either It's the local authorities 'Environmental Health Department' that is where the complaint would become valid - if they can prove (through a complainants diary log) that you are producing a 'Statuary Nuisance' then they can act upon it - Initially its normally a form of written correspondence setting out the complaint and how they can act upon it Complainants quite often exaggerate the facts / stretch the truth / fabricate & invent Stay clam & reasonable at all times - don't raise your voice but politely point out the longer that they waste your time the longer it will take - the boot would be very much on the other foot if the said neighbour was having building works undertaken her property and you are well within your rights to advise her so I'm going to assume that given the current situation that we all find ourselves in that our local authorities are stretched beyond all capacity with department staff redeployed to front line roles in order to deal with far more important matters & implications - not that you need to hide behind this - but again I would assume that by the time anyone got round to dealing with a complaint against you at the local authority that you would be all wrapped up with the work on your car My situation is quite different from yours in the fact that I turned the restoration work upon my own vehicles into a business - but working from home - I have planning permission for my workshop & business and my neighbour (100 metres away) would dearly love to close me down at the first chance - I will never give them that pleasure - its does not mean that I can not please myself - I work to strictly curfewed hours along side many mitigation factors - I have the support from the rest of my neighbours & community for which I am always grateful Just keep your head down & crack on - good luck - Chris Yeah, what ↑ he ↑ said about being a clam and stuff. If she comes over having the screaming habdads again it might be worth enlightening her to the following (which assumes her to be a homeowner); If she makes a formal complaint to any organisation / body she will have to declare this as a 'neighbour dispute' on the legal pack if she ever tries to sell her house which may very well result in a sale falling through if prospective purchasers believe they're moving in near a noisy neighbour. On the flip side, if she were to formalise a complaint, you may also find that you have to declare a neighbour dispute if you ever want to sell.
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I'm the middle house of 3 and the right side has obviously not been working during this pandemic, think hes a tradesman and she never worked plus some teenage kids in and out.
Theres 2 of us that have been forced to work from home. Ive been in and out when ive been able to go and visit my clients/had to go out in emergencys But for the most time, both working from home full time.
The neighbor often listens to loud music at weekends, its loud and not my taste at all. But its never usually too late and i just close a window or play the tv/music a little louder to combat it. Its their right, just as its mine to grind my welds down at the weekends
Now they have a 7 day weekend and the weather is nicer they have been playing loud music in the garden most of the day. Warm weather makes closing the windows impossible and also makes 2 peoples conference calls etc pretty unbareable for us and the other partys trying to listen to us over the bass!
I went round about 6 weeks ago and asked nicely if he could do us a favor and not play the music that loud during the 'working day' as the house is now basically our office from 9-5 and we didnt have a choice in the matter. He obliged and we have been able to continue meetings nice and quietly for the most part.
The neighbor to our left also said it was disturbing her working from home. So thanked me for asking.
In short, i asked a loud neighbour to be more considerate during working hours and he obliged. Its how you ask not what you ask. If this lady asked you nicely to please try and keep the volume down, i personaly would have been much more receptive and tried to work around her.
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duncanmartin
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Noise complaint from neighbour duncanmartin
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I've been the complaining and the complained to neighbour since I've lived in this house. In both cases it was where doing stuff in the garage felt tolerably noisy, but was causing resonance in the house that was much louder (and not at all obvious). I managed to remove the resonance by putting a rubber garage mat under my turbo trainer which killed the vibration. The neighbour changed when he was doing the specific cutting for his car to times when my wife was out and damped his bench a bit. Everyone was happy, and because we were all reasonable about it, there's no hard feelings on anyone's part. I suspect it would have been very different if the person making the complaint had started off on the warpath...
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I've been the complaining and the complained to neighbour since I've lived in this house. In both cases it was where doing stuff in the garage felt tolerably noisy, but was causing resonance in the house that was much louder (and not at all obvious). I managed to remove the resonance by putting a rubber garage mat under my turbo trainer which killed the vibration. The neighbour changed when he was doing the specific cutting for his car to times when my wife was out and damped his bench a bit. Everyone was happy, and because we were all reasonable about it, there's no hard feelings on anyone's part. I suspect it would have been very different if the person making the complaint had started off on the warpath... Turbo trainers are surprisingly noisy! I'm glad I'm not in my old house during this lockdown period, as our old neighbour was unbearable. We did have to declare a neighbour dispute when we sold, and my wife made a point of explaining to people about him and going as far as to vetting who we would accept bids from as he was a nasty piece of work. The new purchasers were already aware of him as they had lived in the area and so they bought the house. Sometimes it doesn't matter if you ask nicely, the other person might just be an *hole with nothing better to do than cause trouble.
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jamesd1972
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Noise complaint from neighbour jamesd1972
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Spoke to a solicitor once about the 'disputes with neighbours' box and he said that there is little real comeback if somebody has lied about it. IIRC he said you would need to sue them for damages at great expense and risk so it doesn't have much real bite.
To the OP Hope everything has calmed down, things can escalate so easily to the detriment of everybody concerned.
James
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Police won't be interested as its a council responsibility. The council EHO will advise the complainant to keep a log and would probably do a 'snoop' to see if it is a problem, but that's in normal times not when most of their staff are WFH or furloughed due to the zombie apocalypse. As others have said just be reasonable about duration and times.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Spoke to a solicitor once about the 'disputes with neighbours' box and he said that there is little real comeback if somebody has lied about it. A real Solicitor??! I don't think that's at all an accurate representation. Since the regulations came in, I'm aware of a couple of high profile cases being heard in the courts where the original (lying) vendor has been ordered to pay damages which have been close to half the value of the property that was sold.
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