logicaluk
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Feb 10, 2020 20:32:24 GMT
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I'm considering taking the plunge and buying in to the Kielder brand power tools, does anyone have and use them? SGS Engineering have some good prices, for £360 I can get combi drill 1/4" impact driver 1/2" 700 nm impact wrench 2x 4ah 18v Samsung battery packs and a charger www.sgs-engineering.com/power-tools/kielderKielder are based in Sheffield, offer fixed price servicing and seem from the blurb to be the sort of people you would want to be designing tools. I see Bad Obsession Motorsport use them, so they must be good, shouldn't they? Dan |
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Last Edit: Feb 10, 2020 20:34:16 GMT by logicaluk
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Feb 10, 2020 21:14:12 GMT
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While the tools might be ok, the issue always with non ‘big brand’ battery tools is availability of batteries in a few years when the originals fail.
I’ve been stung with this once before, leaving serviceable tools redundant - then bought into the Ryobi range as a budget alternative to Makita and DeWalt etc. Annoyingly Screwfix no longer stock Ryobi stuff, but I found replacement batteries easily online recently.
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Feb 10, 2020 21:50:47 GMT
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I like the fact they offer a repair service and clear well designed website with good choice helps too. Both of those would sway me to buy.
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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slater
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Feb 10, 2020 21:52:29 GMT
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Good enough for hobby use I'm sure. Tbh the market for those kind of tools has levelled in recent years now battery tech has plateaued and most stuff is made in china to a price anyway. Theres not the wide gulf between your ryobis and boschs that there used to be.
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Feb 10, 2020 22:07:15 GMT
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Good enough for hobby use I'm sure. Tbh the market for those kind of tools has levelled in recent years now battery tech has plateaued and most stuff is made in china to a price anyway. Theres not the wide gulf between your ryobis and boschs that there used to be. You could right. But, I've nothing but great service from the likes of Hitachi products (don't know where they are made, possibly China) and I'm usually willing to spend the extra over the likes of Ryobi etc. One point worth nothing about Chinese made products, is there's good and bad. It all depends on what the customer requirements are from the Chinese manufacturer, be that Bosch or whoever. |
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turbom
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Feb 10, 2020 22:08:33 GMT
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I have a 1/2" kielder impact gun and I cant fault it for home use, I have a Makita one for work and its as good and you can buy batteries from amazon too...
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Feb 11, 2020 16:14:43 GMT
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Have a look at the latest project binky, pretty sure they use one and it don’t seem to struggle
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Feb 11, 2020 16:18:59 GMT
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I have an impact wrench and drill not bad for the money .
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logicaluk
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Feb 11, 2020 21:05:00 GMT
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Bullet bitten, order placed paid by PayPal so hopefully ill get nectar points, free next day delivery too, I can see more SGS purchases in my future.
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They take time to bed in and get more powerful as they settle down from what I can remember, the ones of theirs I've used were the prototypes and still going strong, just do not let anybody plug a Dewalt battery into the charger.....
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Feb 13, 2020 18:30:49 GMT
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About 3 years ago I was looking around to see what suppliers were available for decent battery tools.
From memory, positives for keilder were they are UK made (designed?) and that some rally teams used them, a negative (for me) was the choice of tools was limited - fine if they have what you want but dewalt / makita etc have more toys you can plug their batteries into (angle grinders, SDS drills, hedgetrimmers, ad infinitum.)
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Feb 13, 2020 22:38:00 GMT
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I've got a Keilder cordless brushless drill at school and I do like it. Batteries seem to last well (it came with two) and I stick a modified 3/8" extension bar in and use it as a socket driver too. Torque settings from 1-16, even though I've no clue what the units are, plus drill and hammer drill functions. Nice bit of kit.
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Feb 15, 2020 19:21:24 GMT
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Only experience I’ve had is my apprentice bought a 3/8 gun 1/2 gun and the bigger batteries to go with it, the 1/2 gun struggled to take wheel bolts out, was told by Kielder to let it bed in but it got no better so they asked for it back to repair. Once he got it back it only lasted an hour before it stopped working, swapped batteries with no difference so he took it back to machine mart who swapped it for another due to the hassle he’d had. He sold all of it on and bought snap on instead. 4 years later no issues with batteries or the guns and they are used in a busy workshop.
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logicaluk
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First impressions are good, they feel well-made, except the reversing switches feel like they need to be a few mm longer and don't have a nice feel to them.
Will report back when I've used them more.
Dan
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Feb 16, 2020 10:51:28 GMT
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Make sure you give them a good run to bed the impact wrench in.
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Feb 16, 2020 13:37:46 GMT
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While the tools might be ok, the issue always with non ‘big brand’ battery tools is availability of batteries in a few years when the originals fail. I’ve been stung with this once before, leaving serviceable tools redundant - then bought into the Ryobi range as a budget alternative to Makita and DeWalt etc. Annoyingly Screwfix no longer stock Ryobi stuff, but I found replacement batteries easily online recently. I've just had a couple of Snap-on battery cells replaced by County Battery in Nottingham, they come with a 1 year warranty so I wouldnt be worried about being stuck with dead batteries in a few years |
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jmsheahan
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Feb 16, 2020 14:32:38 GMT
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I have a 1/2" kielder impact gun and I cant fault it for home use Same here, perfect for home garage use  |
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turbom
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Feb 16, 2020 18:02:10 GMT
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I have a 1/2" kielder impact gun and I cant fault it for home use Same here, perfect for home garage use I also have the sealey 12v 3/8 impact and ratchet and die grinder too, perfect for home use.... |
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logicaluk
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Aug 23, 2020 19:03:06 GMT
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6 month update.
I'm totally smitten with the 1/2 inch impact, its yet to be defeated, the noise from the drill I'm getting used to, it's a lot quieter under load and the 1/4 inch impact get used far more than I thought it would.
Totally happy would and do recommend, money well spent.
Dan
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Aug 23, 2020 20:13:22 GMT
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Only experience I’ve had is my apprentice bought a 3/8 gun 1/2 gun and the bigger batteries to go with it, the 1/2 gun struggled to take wheel bolts out, was told by Kielder to let it bed in but it got no better so they asked for it back to repair. Once he got it back it only lasted an hour before it stopped working, swapped batteries with no difference so he took it back to machine mart who swapped it for another due to the hassle he’d had. He sold all of it on and bought snap on instead. 4 years later no issues with batteries or the guns and they are used in a busy workshop. My Kielder also struggled with wheelbolts, and that was the 1/2" 430Nm version. I was told the same. I since sold it to a friend, albeit warned him about that, and have bought a DeWalt DCH899N. It's heavier which is one downside. However, it is mostly untroubled by most things, when using impact sockets. |
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