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Jan 19, 2020 15:42:47 GMT
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Hi folks, I'm trying to find paint codes that match these colours, to make it trickier the paint should ideally be non-metallic. I'm aware you can't convert RGB/Hex values of computer colours to actual paints, but is there a trick I'm missing here? It's a custom paint job, so I can't just look up my vehicle's code or catalogue. So far I've went to various factors and browsed their spray paints, I've looked at a few colour-match-cards and I've google image searched things like "teal car" found similar coloured vehicles in the results and found paints that way. For example, Toyota Lagoon Blue Mica is kinda close to the teal, albeit it's metallic. - Any hints or suggestions?
- Do you own/know of a vehicle in any of these colours?
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Rich
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Finding paint codesRich
@foxmcintyre
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Jan 19, 2020 15:51:49 GMT
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I assume your car is already these colours? or you want to find these colours to paint something? I would suggest tracking down an RAL colour chart and seeing if anything on it matches.
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Jan 19, 2020 16:15:39 GMT
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Unfortunately not, the vehicle is currently silver. I wonder how good a spectrophotometer would be at picking up some deep-quality print-outs. The RAL chart is my current plan of action, although I can't quite find that shade of green.
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Last Edit: Jan 19, 2020 16:46:53 GMT by xylaquin
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Jan 19, 2020 22:39:27 GMT
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Go to a good independent automotive paint factors / specialists with your colours printed onto photographic quality paper - each colour swatch area needs to be about the size of a standard business card - they will then be able to use a mass spectrometer to ID the closest matched colours for you - it does depend upon the factor that are using and if they want your business - the company I use are exceptional at what they do but they are several hundred miles from you
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Jan 19, 2020 22:55:16 GMT
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Hi folks, I'm trying to find paint codes that match these colours, to make it trickier the paint should ideally be non-metallic. I'm aware you can't convert RGB/Hex values of computer colours to actual paints, but is there a trick I'm missing here? It's a custom paint job, so I can't just look up my vehicle's code or catalogue. So far I've went to various factors and browsed their spray paints, I've looked at a few colour-match-cards and I've google image searched things like "teal car" found similar coloured vehicles in the results and found paints that way. For example, Toyota Lagoon Blue Mica is kinda close to the teal, albeit it's metallic. - Any hints or suggestions?
- Do you own/know of a vehicle in any of these colours?
I think this really depends on how specifically you want to achieve a match. Those squares in your post will look subtly different on every screen a viewer looks at them on. So nobody can look at your post here and give you an accurate colour reference code. Printing those colours out is an option, but not perfect. For one thing you may find you need to adjust the colours until the print out matches your expectations. If you print them on an inkjet, there will always be banding, and different types of paper will affect the way a colour scanner reads the colour. Cheap uncoated paper will absorb the ink and it will bleed a little into the fibres, making it darker, but much more consistent. A matt photo quality paper will leave the pigment sitting on top and it will read differently because it will remain as distinct droplets. An inkjet printer creates the illusion of a colour via a stochastic scattering of Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black droplets. A high definition colour scanner will be influenced by those dots in a way that a human eye will helpfully resolve as being a flat colour. So if precision and absolute accuracy are important you will need to find your nearest photographic lab and have c-types produced. But that is expensive. A modern c-type is photographic paper exposed to digital light, so the results are flat flawless colours not composed of dots. Most colour matchers using a colour reader will admit it's an imperfect science. My local autopaints advised me they couldn't match a colour I required, and they said there are some colours they know they will get a good result and some they simply will not. Somebody else I know took a print out in to them and had some paint mixed and it turned out to be nothing like his reference item. He got his money back because it was miles off.
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Last Edit: Jan 19, 2020 23:09:51 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 19, 2020 23:00:58 GMT
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(For what it's worth, on MY phone screen the chalky blue colour is almost the same as Pantone 549c. I know this because it was first ever colour I specified for a print job back in 1985 as an apprentice, and I've never forgotten it since. It pops up from time to time and it's like seeing an old friend.
I'd be more than happy to go and retrieve my Pantone Swatch books from my daughter's bedroom and give you Pantone refs for how the colours look on my phone and my laptop if you like. Pantone colours can be cross referenced with RAL so it might get you a bit further down the road, although like I said, a screen is nowhere near suitable for colour matching... its light projecting out of a black as the lowest possible point, whereas paint is technically darkening down from white as the highest possible point)
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Last Edit: Jan 19, 2020 23:22:41 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 19, 2020 23:07:29 GMT
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Another thing you could do would be to go to your art shop and look at the acrylic paints.
If you can get ballpark tubes of acrylic, and do some experimental mixing to get what you want, you can paint that in large slabs on some card and they can scan that.
Acrylics dry very quickly, and give a very flat and completely opaque colour.
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From what I read in xylaquin original posting is that he would like to match the colours close to what he has printed in a solid (non metallic) paint range - all quite easy to do if you follow my previous post - don't worry about the minor differences made by the use of various printers - you are repainting a vehicle to your own colour scheme and not to identically colour match a panel that has been previously painted - if you cannot find a suitable automotive paint factors at your end of the country try Jawel Paints - link below - they will do mail order and are pretty helpful www.jawel.co.uk/ - if they cannot help then you are welcome to PM me with some details and I can get the supplier that I use to help at my end of the country but it would again carry carriage costs @thousandwords - I'm guessing that you tried 'Autopaints Brighton' for your colour matching (you are very welcome to correct me if I'm wrong) - its funny how the trade soon works out who are the go to people / companies for colour matching and the company I mentioned above is not one of them
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2020 8:38:32 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 20, 2020 12:16:53 GMT
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well ,the colour on the right looks really like vw monaco blue
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For the left, try Simca vert acide
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Jan 21, 2020 10:34:39 GMT
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If you are going to do it that way VW Clementine (a 70's colour on the Beetles & Type 2's) would be not far off for the orange
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