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Every vehicle you can see on the road has its own, unique Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). You can check it through vin decoders like www.revscheckreport.com.au/ to identify its history. The VIN number on your car can give you some very useful identifying information, such as: 1 Geographical area 2 Country 3 Car manufacturer 4 Product line 5 Model Series 6 Body type 7 Gearbox 8 Engine variant 9 Check character 10 Model year 11 Place of manufacture 12 Serial number Hi, Yes that's true and it's how manufacturers configure and use the 17 digit number. However that has no relation to 5 or 6 digit numbers used on a kit car built,assembled,created or magicked up in the garage beside someone's house and getting DVSA to even accept exists. Which is what this tale of woe thread is about. The other problem is that DVSA started an approved list of car club signatories for resolving disputes like this until the antics and abuses of the Bugatti club. Since then DVSA are a bit sceptical of them hence the current difficulties. Colin
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Last Edit: Mar 7, 2020 14:57:13 GMT by colnerov
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Phil H
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It’s a spammer, Colin...
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Doh! I must pay attention!
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ChasR
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems the issue the DVLA are having to some degree is that the VIN plate on the car is insecure, and since you removed it, there is no identification present on the car. I know there may be security reasons for doing this, but obviously the DVLA are going to kick off. If I did that with my MGB of years ago, the next owner could have said it was whatever year they wanted it to be . On my Merc, it had 3 places the VIN was (engine bay, windscreen plate and the VIN/Service plate). Or am I missing something here? .
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Mar 19, 2020 15:30:43 GMT
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No ChasR, youve not missed it. I inspected the vehicle in my capacity as 'approved club rep' and they won't accept my word it's genuine. Dutton didn't mark the chassis, it was down to the builder. They did supply a production plate (NOT a VIN plate) which was fixed to the body. The number on that plate was used as a VIN on 75% of Duttons. This is still ongoing but IF I ever get a resolution I'll post it LOL
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1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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Mar 19, 2020 19:15:30 GMT
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If you do an HPI check do all the numbers match ?
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steveg
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I think whilst struggling with mine I went on the website armed with a few likely options and the website only allows you to continue once you have entered a matching set. It may be different now. My car has LVLO on the start of the chassis number so I was wondering DVLA were being a PITA because that hadn't been added or something.
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ChasR
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Mar 20, 2020 22:05:39 GMT
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No ChasR, youve not missed it. I inspected the vehicle in my capacity as 'approved club rep' and they won't accept my word it's genuine. Dutton didn't mark the chassis, it was down to the builder. They did supply a production plate (NOT a VIN plate) which was fixed to the body. The number on that plate was used as a VIN on 75% of Duttons. This is still ongoing but IF I ever get a resolution I'll post it LOL The difference was Dutton probably sold them unregistered if I am not wrong. So it not having a plate wasn't an issue as it would have had a plate made up and affixed to the car once registered, basing it off the production plate, as you have sated. I've had to do the same with my Velosolex in order to register it ; the DVLA will refuse to register it without one ; UK sold Velosolexes had them for this reason. Admittedly, it has to go off the EACC's word that the engine number for the unregistered Velosolexes is the correct no. I didn't realise clubs had the power to overrule the lack of a VIN plate, and to some degree can see why the DVLA are being hesistant ; after all, it's registered already and as such should have the VIN fixed. If the guy doesn't have one, he could go through the pain of re-registering it, which with newer standards could become hard, and expensive. Why can't the guy have registered the car off a V5C/2, like most people here would? I know it's club policy, but I could have done the same with any car I sold because I thought the owner would do one ; You can bet the DVLA would have told them to do one with the absence of a VIN to prove what the car is.
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Last Edit: Mar 20, 2020 22:07:55 GMT by ChasR
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No ChasR, youve not missed it. I inspected the vehicle in my capacity as 'approved club rep' and they won't accept my word it's genuine. Dutton didn't mark the chassis, it was down to the builder. They did supply a production plate (NOT a VIN plate) which was fixed to the body. The number on that plate was used as a VIN on 75% of Duttons. This is still ongoing but IF I ever get a resolution I'll post it LOL The difference was Dutton probably sold them unregistered if I am not wrong. So it not having a plate wasn't an issue as it would have had a plate made up and affixed to the car once registered, basing it off the production plate, as you have sated. I've had to do the same with my Velosolex in order to register it ; the DVLA will refuse to register it without one ; UK sold Velosolexes had them for this reason. Admittedly, it has to go off the EACC's word that the engine number for the unregistered Velosolexes is the correct no. I didn't realise clubs had the power to overrule the lack of a VIN plate, and to some degree can see why the DVLA are being hesistant ; after all, it's registered already and as such should have the VIN fixed. If the guy doesn't have one, he could go through the pain of re-registering it, which with newer standards could become hard, and expensive. Why can't the guy have registered the car off a V5C/2, like most people here would? I know it's club policy, but I could have done the same with any car I sold because I thought the owner would do one ; You can bet the DVLA would have told them to do one with the absence of a VIN to prove what the car is.
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Hi I have a monkey I hav bought with no reg is there a way of me getting the reg number using my vin number
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Hi I have a monkey I hav bought with no reg is there a way of me getting the reg number using my vin number Apply for a log book using the lost log book form, make sure you get the frame number right, leave the registration blank and attach a covering letter[/u] and £25 send it to the DVLA. 6 weeks later you either get a log book, a letter and your money back or the stolen vehicle squad kick the front door in. Don't forget the covering letter, something like it's just been used on private land and the last owner lost the number plate will do.
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