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 On with the bootlid then  Outer skin is in good shape  Just paint chips around the edges  The boot seal is glued to the underside with the seal being somewhat beyond use  The boot lid is unusual in construction with the inner frame being alloy and the outer skin being steel (if anything its normally the other way round and either way is not preferable due to dissimilar metal corrosion)  Some rust on the inner flange edge but nothing that cant be sorted  Had to drill off the seized retaining screw for the boot handle though but at least that allowed access for the blowtorch then I could apply some heat and wind the remaining stud out  Some prep work later  Then refitted the hinges & the lid  Took a while to get it adjusted and fitting the aperture - its a very close / tight fit on the top edge between the boot gutter rail and the boot edge has the boot lid is raised and this takes some patience in setting it correctly  Any minor rust areas were treated with Hydrate 80 on the wings & boot lid  Made a start on the skimming of the rear panels  And also stripped the paint off the nearside rear door - I will go over this with the DA in the morning - had a decent chat with Bill who owns the car this evening to update him - he is on the mend with his health - we also made the decision that the car will now be fully repainted - having come the far it would be false economy not to - whilst half the car would not do any justice to the rest of it - more updates tomorrow |
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glad to hear the old thing is getting the full monty.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Likewise happy to hear Bill (whom I don't know, but MUST be a good bloke) is getting better, and that the whole car will receive new paint. I have to assume that following along with your photos and imagining the re-assembly was serious motivation for him to fight his way back to wellness. John
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watching intently as you start to add filler..Ive gone back and revisited your other threads to see the process as I'm starting to add filler on my project!
looking good, Grumpy
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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glad to hear the old thing is getting the full monty. Pete - Its not all going to bare metal - I will leave the paint on that's sound and it will be a 2 pack direct to gloss finish that I use - none the less it will give the car a new lease of life - the chrome trim for the car although not perfect is presentable so that is going back on - the seats in the car will stay has they are for now but may get recovered at a later date |
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i did mean just a full coat..with hindsight though (that wonderful thing), would it have been easier for you from the get go just to do a full strip?
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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So, Ford, via Briggs Motor Bodies of Doncaster, couldn't be arsed about panel gaps Jowett in Bradford couldn't be arsed to fix panel gaps. Decades later, our man is finally putting that right.  Lovely work as ever. |
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Last Edit: Dec 5, 2019 12:13:30 GMT by georgeb
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 Took the remaining factory primer off the NSR door with the DA  Then lead loaded the seam of the panel repair  Went over the lead with a body file first then the DA  Before I progressed the outer skin profiles any further I cleaned the frame up and applied Hydrate 80 to any areas that had been effected by rust ingress  Whilst the Hydrate treatment was curing I made a start on stripping the door fittings off  However the Mazak door handles on the interior refused to move - they are retained by pins which were easy to remove but the years of damp air in the car along with dissimilar metal corrosion (lock & winder spindles are steel) acted like super strength glue  In the end I had to make a forked tool up and used forced leverage to bring the handles off - it took several heavy whacks with a decent hammer on the end of the fork tool before they gave up the fight to remain  The interior door cards are being replaced  Just the chrome trim & the door handle to be removed off the external face  The door seals which are glued on are all dead and will be replaced  Also past its sell by date are the window channels  Which when removed fall apart due to rust ingress  A couple of the glass channels are also dead due to rust ingress  This will now give me a clear run at the paint prep - but the doors will be coming off for paint regardless  Meanwhile other panels could now start to be skimmed up  Whilst the profiling on other panels could be commenced   More tomorrow |
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that blue paint got everywhere chris.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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that blue paint got everywhere chris. Certainly did - Its daubed on everything you look at |
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I'm surprised you use hobbyweld gas Chris, any reason not to use BOC gas? Especially as BOC gas has a higher Argon content in it. It's also cheaper than hobbyweld if you use the volksworld member discount (you don't need to be a member - just mention it when setting up the account).
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I'm surprised you use hobbyweld gas Chris, any reason not to use BOC gas? Especially as BOC gas has a higher Argon content in it. It's also cheaper than hobbyweld if you use the volksworld member discount (you don't need to be a member - just mention it when setting up the account). Mark - I have avoided the BOC / Volksworld route - a fellow Jowett owner had this setup with 2 BOC 20 litre bottles - one Argon mix for the MIG & the other pure Argon for the TIG - the pricing has gone stupid over the last 18 months where it got to the point he was paying 50% + than the equalelvent HB bottles - he sacked BOC off and now gone to HB - I will have a look into though and see how it compares |
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From memory I pay £50 a year rent on the bottle (cant remember the bottle code) but its the approx 3 foot high bottle about 10" diameter. Again from memory its about £37 for a fill up.
I collect mine as I live near a branch, but delivery may/can be punitive. I think you pass Slough often enough to possibly make it work though.
I prefer the BOC gas as it does give a nicer weld that is a bit softer to grind down.
I did look at the hobbyweld gas as the local car shop does it and I would prefer a smaller bottle but it worked out at over double the price.
For me its the rent thats a killer, but for you who must go through a few bottles a year that would not really be an issue (esp as its chargeable to your customers).
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The bottle on the volkszone deal is a "Y" size. I got my bill through the other day for all of my gas so I will dig It out and see what it is.
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Ok, I pay: or will pay come Jan due to price increase.
Pureshield argon ( for tig) size y £52 rent and £52 for a fill
Argoshield light (for mig) size y £52 rent and £40 for a fill
Propane and oxygen also if anyone is interested?
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...and reading a bit further it seems there is a £5.99 collection fee now as well.
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Ok, I pay: or will pay come Jan due to price increase. Pureshield argon ( for tig) size y £52 rent and £52 for a fill Argoshield light (for mig) size y £52 rent and £40 for a fill Propane and oxygen also if anyone is interested? Plus Vat or including ? - thanks Chris |
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Darkspeed
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A BOC 20L Y bottle Volkszone deal works out at 4600 litres at £92 - 2.0p/l
Hobbyweld ignoring the deposit.
The Hobbyweld 9 is 1233 litres at £32 = 2.6p/l
Both exclude VAT
The maths for your own particular applications is easy enough. - The hobby weld price is from a local supplier to me so may be more or less where you are.
I get through at least a bottle a year so the BOC deal works out far cheaper for me.
ETA
Not including driving back and forth collecting the 4 bottles of Hobbyweld 9 - I do beleive that they are now doing a Hobbyweld 20HP which would be the same as the BOC Bottle but it's at least twice the price of BOC 20L Y fill.
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Last Edit: Dec 6, 2019 21:16:40 GMT by Darkspeed
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So not worth the effort then - I use the Ultra bottles which are close to the equalelvent of the BOC 'Y' bottle sizes / weights / filled pressures - I get through circa 2 refills a year @ £60 ish excl Vat but rent free so roughly £120 cost per annum via Hobbyweld - BOC costs would be 2 refills @ £40 but plus £50 per annum bottle rental = £130 per annum
Both BOC Argoshield Light & Hobbyweld 5 are 93% Argon / 5% Co2 / 2% Oxygen
My welding equipment supplier drops the bottle to the garage door & collects the empty on a following day service from order - free of charge delivery
The smaller 9 litre bottles tend be filled at a far lower pressure and only lasted the matter of a few weeks in the workshop
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