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Oct 25, 2019 17:51:14 GMT
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That's the sort of thing that my company could make in about 5 minutes if we had a template we could make a CAD drawing from.
We have nice 10mm birch plywood that is laminated both sides with a sturdy black leatherette finish PVC covering so it's waterproof.
Ditto any floor panels (we have 7mm ply as well) PM me if you are interested as we are happy to produce 1 off's or we could do stock runs for your spares dept.
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Oct 26, 2019 19:21:23 GMT
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That's the sort of thing that my company could make in about 5 minutes if we had a template we could make a CAD drawing from. We have nice 10mm birch plywood that is laminated both sides with a sturdy black leatherette finish PVC covering so it's waterproof. Ditto any floor panels (we have 7mm ply as well) PM me if you are interested as we are happy to produce 1 off's or we could do stock runs for your spares dept. Thanks Mark - I will make some enquiries & get back to you
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Oct 26, 2019 20:08:08 GMT
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With work on the jacking points complete and the doors checked for fitting against the apertures / B post alignment etc - the temporary bracing could now be removed Next to sort was the rear seat upstand that had been holed by a leaking battery Repair ready for welding Welded & dressed back Then had a scrape back of the nearside chassis box section & removed all the loose paint Nearside front outrigger is in good condition But the floor pan area above it requires replacement Along with a small section of the rebated area on the sill Meanwhile Front bumper removed along with the exhaust section that links the manifolds at the front of the engine Access plate in the bulkhead allows access to disconnect the gear linkages Disconnected the prop but then had to make a puller up out of a piece of equal angle to draw the propshaft drive boss off the end of the gearbox (the gearbox tailshaft travels through a aperture on the front cross member of the car) Then the gearbox mounting which bolts up to the opposite side of the front crossmember Disconnected everything else along with the engine mountings - then its a simple case of fitting the engine cradle to the trolley jack Just have to lift the engine ever so slightly (20mm) with the jack and the whole lot wheels out Removed the radiator to allow better access to the bulkhead for the wiring harness Some indication of previous electrical bodges Few reference pics has the regulator & wiper motor need to come off Regulator is being replaced with new & the wiper motor mounting plate is dead The I pulled the rest of the harness from the engine bay / bulkhead & dash I think its what you would call 'Beyond Safe Use'
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Oct 26, 2019 21:23:58 GMT
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And I thought the dash loom for my Corsair was bad, that's nasty.
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Oct 26, 2019 21:26:45 GMT
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Someone in the past must have liked that blue paint enough to brush it all over the place. Pretty amazing condition for a 65 year old car. John
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Oct 26, 2019 21:45:47 GMT
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Someone in the past must have liked that blue paint enough to brush it all over the place. Pretty amazing condition for a 65 year old car. John probably helped keep it going though...
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Someone in the past must have liked that blue paint enough to brush it all over the place. Pretty amazing condition for a 65 year old car. John Apparently the blue paint was slapped on the underside about 40 years ago - but its now all letting go in most of the places - the Javelin was built from proper steel of a decent thickness but like all cars has its rust traps - more importantly we forget that rust proofing / cavity waxes / underbody waxes weren't even used or thought about when these cars first came to the road
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Someone in the past must have liked that blue paint enough to brush it all over the place. Pretty amazing condition for a 65 year old car. John probably helped keep it going though... Pete - Very much so I have seen plenty of this model with the chassis so riddled with rot that they are well beyond saving and have sadly ended up broken for spares - I say sad but every cloud has a silver lining has the spares yielded by the rotten cars have kept many other cars on the road
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Oct 27, 2019 14:01:36 GMT
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Oh dear that harness! looks like you got to it in time other wise the whole lot could have gone up in flames!
As others have said It really does look s solid body for its age!
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Oct 27, 2019 19:07:51 GMT
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Removed the ply covers under the rear seat to allow better access to the underbody / chassis sections Then removed the rear seat back Which in turn allows access to the screws that retain the trims over the rear wheel arches Which means I can access the fastenings for this external chrome trim That are hidden within the rear inner wing That finally allows access to rust / paintwork areas within this area on both sides Refitted the road wheels to the car and pulled the lift out of the way - plan now is that I can access to the majority of the underbody areas is to roll the car outside in the morning and give all the chassis / bulkhead running gear + oily bits a good soaking in degreaser prior to a good wash off - I can then get it back into the workshop and put the heating on to dry it out
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Last Edit: Oct 27, 2019 19:10:16 GMT by Deleted
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Oct 27, 2019 19:14:09 GMT
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Oh dear that harness! looks like you got to it in time other wise the whole lot could have gone up in flames! As others have said It really does look s solid body for its age! that made me really chuckle..... my late father in law an was ex raf mt.. and it became a running joke with me and my mum that he was totally obsessed with cars spontaneously combusting once they got to 5 years old due to decrepit wiring! quite ironic then then that despite being a die hard bl fan for goodness knows how many years (triumph 2500/stag/rover sd1's/range rover/820/827 vitesse and my mums mgb's that not one single car ever burnt itself into the tarmac. granted though that this loom has earned its keep and looks due for replacement.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Oct 27, 2019 19:36:09 GMT
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Is it rubber/cloth covered wiring? If so in my experience it seems to have a definite shelf life which all cars using it have passed by now, the later PVC wiring introduced in the 60's seems to be lasting better but time will tell.
I kind of hoped the blue was the original colour, most of these seem to be in pretty sombre colours I think a nice pastel blue would look great.
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Oct 27, 2019 19:55:05 GMT
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Is it rubber/cloth covered wiring? If so in my experience it seems to have a definite shelf life which all cars using it have passed by now, the later PVC wiring introduced in the 60's seems to be lasting better but time will tell. I kind of hoped the blue was the original colour, most of these seem to be in pretty sombre colours I think a nice pastel blue would look great. It is has you say a rubber / cloth covered wiring in a cotton braid harness which also rots - the Javelin is a well built car and a lot of thought went into what went where rather than it just be bolted on regardless - Huge downside on this is that the wiring harness for a car of its era is pretty complex and well hidden - hence it consistently gets overlooked and only when real problems start to occur do owners actually do anything about the said harness - I have yet to hear of a Javelin being lost to a wiring harness fault that resulted in a fire but based upon what I have seen of many Javelin's they must be a few that are quite close to the point of self ignition - Not that I would wish it upon anyone There is a really nice bright blue in the Jowett colour range but it's very rare to a Javelin in this colour, they also did a nice 'Lagoon' shade green but again its quite rare
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Last Edit: Oct 27, 2019 19:58:05 GMT by Deleted
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GN, two questions: 1. two lateral tubes revealed by the removal of the back seat: torsion bars/rear springs? Are they how rear ride height is set, a la VW/Porsche? 2. The wooden floors are it, right? Meaning, the bottom of those plywood panels faces the road...no stamped metal floor in those areas? Such a beautifully made machine..must have been something bought by people who wanted an automobile of unusual quality when new...a "thinking-man's" car.
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GN, two questions: 1. two lateral tubes revealed by the removal of the back seat: torsion bars/rear springs? Are they how rear ride height is set, a la VW/Porsche? 2. The wooden floors are it, right? Meaning, the bottom of those plywood panels faces the road...no stamped metal floor in those areas? Such a beautifully made machine..must have been something bought by people who wanted an automobile of unusual quality when new...a "thinking-man's" car. 1 - The two bars traveling horizontally behind the rear seat are has you state the rear torsion bars with ride height set via the radial arms to the rear axle - front suspension is also torsion bar suspension but travel lengthways down the side of each chassis leg 2 - Correct the ply floors are the finished product - they are however inboard and are out of range of any road spray thrown up by the wheels etc - timber / ply floors were still being fitted to production cars of most manufactures up to the late 50's / early 60's The Jowett Javelin was the first all new clean sheet car design / production that was launched after the second world war (1947) - with the vast majority of the vehicle manufactures all returning to their pre war designs & models - whereas the Javelin really broke the mould for car production utilising a unitary bodyshell, curved one piece windscreen (the worlds first production car to be fitted with this) all round torsion bar suspension, 4 cylinder water cooled boxer engine allowing a low centre of gravity along with an exceptionally low drag co-efficient of 0.36 - the car set new standards in ride quality & road holding too - many other vehicle manufactures took this cue and although not fully recognised for what it achieved the Jowett Javelin really was the turning point & benchmark of post war modern car production - its a great car and one that I have enjoyed no end of fun in - right then I will go and hang the anorak back up and head out to the workshop
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Last Edit: Oct 28, 2019 7:07:17 GMT by Deleted
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Once again........
Lots of swear words mumbled inside my mouth.
All of them uttered in utmost admiration Chris.
I find the mantra through a lot of your work, sometimes uttered by you, and I suspect ALWAYS executed by you are: “Repair panel made, welded, dressed back”
These words make the foundation of your restorations so incredibly solid.
Grizz .......... wanders off and mutters incomprehensible words of amazement in his mouth
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Oct 28, 2019 20:58:38 GMT
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Last Edit: Oct 28, 2019 21:02:12 GMT by Deleted
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Oct 29, 2019 20:12:45 GMT
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With car washed down I gave the rear inner wing on the nearside another scrape over which removed most of the blue paint And what's left very quickly comes clean with a flap wheel on the grinder - I will be further treating any rust borne areas with Hydrate 80 once the welding is out of the way Localised welded repairs let in & dressed back Bottom edge in the making And now just requires dressing back Just the base of the D post to complete in the morning and that will be the nearside welding repairs completed
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Oct 30, 2019 21:24:46 GMT
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Oct 31, 2019 12:04:43 GMT
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Yup, scope creep!
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