retrotoe
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anything rusty
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May 29, 2019 13:37:44 GMT |
takes me right back as aderlisent going corner shop in 70s to buy the custom mags with young ladies draped over them thinking one day have ride like that all that's missing is side pipes pure class needs be kept that way,brill inside looks like pensioners flat,draylon was king.bit like my 2000e cortina
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Last Edit: May 29, 2019 13:42:53 GMT by retrotoe
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May 29, 2019 13:49:06 GMT |
Standard 1.3 A series under the bonnet? Reg check shows it's a 1.8
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 Specialist Bodyshop & Fabrication Classic, Retro, Prestige & Custom Small Repairs to Concours Restorations Mechanical Work Vintage to Modern
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accord83
Club Retro Rides Member
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May 29, 2019 14:42:27 GMT |
looking at the horse shoes and the fortune tellers caravan interior, I think the builder wasn't allowed near his dad's Bedford J type, so this was the next best? thing.
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74 Mk1 Escort 1360, 1971 Triumph 2000 in Saffron.
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60six
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May 29, 2019 17:29:37 GMT |
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1989 SAAB 900 Turbo/SAAB 27000 6.9 Tri-Turbo --
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May 29, 2019 17:56:26 GMT |
I bet everyone over about 45 saw something similar running around their town in about 1980-83ish. The one in Heywood was blue and white two-tone with Wellers.
There was also a PC Cresta c/w optics in the back and Valhalla painted down the side. I stumbled across that in a breaker's in Bury some years later.
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Last Edit: May 29, 2019 17:58:42 GMT by keithyboy
Jaguar S-Type 3.0 SE
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May 29, 2019 17:57:19 GMT |
Double post
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Last Edit: May 29, 2019 17:58:14 GMT by keithyboy
Jaguar S-Type 3.0 SE
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Part of things

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'69 Holdsworth bay
'88 T25 Panel van
'90 Pajero 2.5tdi
'02 fiesta derv shopping trolley
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May 30, 2019 10:07:44 GMT |
For me this falls right onto the bullseye of my own chosen description for this sort of thing.... council estate customs.
Personally I don't think it really matters whether it's good or bad by today's standards. I think what's important is that this kind of thing happened and it's an important cultural artefact that tells us a lot about the era which created it. This belongs in a museum of working class culture.
I grew up on council estates where everybody's dad was working on something like this. Doing the best they could on a low wage, using a cheap car that nobody else wanted, trying to create their dream out of British tin, inspired by the US custom car scene that they saw in movies and magazines.
I think it's a beautiful thing personally. This is a creative expression by somebody who a very limited palette to work from. I'm willing to bet this was a working class person with arguably a rudimentary working class education that had specifically guided him/her towards trade apprenticeships and manual labor. S/He was not invited to make any other cultural or creative contributions to society. There was no option to be a creative anything... you just had to be a grunt worker running a machine in a factory - that was your life mapped out: Press operator, council flat, twelve kids, rising damp. This car comes from the days of the old class system where you were told to know your place in the social heirarchy, and careers advisors wouldn't listen to your aspirations they'd just tell you to sign up for an industrial apprenticeship at the local factory or get down the labour market and find a job.
This was somebody's pride and passion, and an escape from that destiny. This was many hours spent in a garage making a sketched-up version of a far far greater vision in their minds, using any available material to achieve it. It's like junk modelling. In his/her mind this was a fantastical vision of independence, individuality and the open road, but in reality it had to be realised via an old Marina, some chain, some carpet offcuts and haberdashery, and some horse shoes. Imagine how many hours S/He spent thinking about this, dreaming about building the most awesome car imaginable, and then improvising out of necessity to get as close as possible to that vision which reflected the way they thought about themselves in spite of the way society graded them. It's a document of somebody's personal exploration of self esteem and pride.
In the end that determination to self-express becomes self defeating because you can only model a crude approximation of your vision, and so everybody sniggers at the council estate loser with his plop tasteless car that's now plastered with horse shoes and chain.
I spent a lot of my youth with people who did this sort of stuff - the dads of my school friends. I also knew people whose dads could afford to drive a brand new cars. But it was these kinds of people who would let you sit in their cars, would take you for a drive, would tell you all about it and what they were doing because they loved it and they wanted to share their enthusiasm with anyone who was interested. The people who could afford nice cars would tell you not to touch them.
My dad was a sales rep so he had a new company car every two years. The kids in our street were always told not to go near it. My dad's fancy company cars were never anywhere near as cool or interesting as the tat my friend's dads were working on. Tat like this Marina.
You don't have to like it, but I believe it deserves some respect.
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May 30, 2019 10:38:19 GMT |
So who's going to put their money where their mouth is and put a bid in then?
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If at first you don't succeed........ ....Don't try skydiving!
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May 30, 2019 10:41:28 GMT |
So who's going to put their money where their mouth is and put a bid in then? Honestly, if I could, I would. I'd photograph every inch of it as it stands in a white infinity studio with nice lights for documenting, then maybe consider washing it to see what's underneath. =)
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ovimor
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May 30, 2019 10:53:54 GMT |
Cooler if 'banksy's wall' had fallen on it... Sort of [literal] culture-clash OVIMOR
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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fr€$h&m1nt¥
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May 30, 2019 10:56:36 GMT |
So who's going to put their money where their mouth is and put a bid in then? Is it for sale then?
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chip83
Part of things

One day at a time....
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May 30, 2019 11:06:39 GMT |
So who's going to put their money where their mouth is and put a bid in then? Is it for sale then? Yep, currently £51 on ebay, links above
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Quashqui and Yeti (needs must currently) SAAB 93 EST (Sold) Volvo S40(sold) Volvo V40(sold) MK2 astra aka "THE SHED"(sold) Mgb GT (crashed) Peugeot 405(sold) Orion 1600i (sold) Metro (scrapped) Mk1 Fiesta (Broken for spares) Mk5 Cortina (crashed)
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fr€$h&m1nt¥
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May 30, 2019 11:29:59 GMT |
Yep, currently £51 on ebay, links above silly me missed that post. I see it's only located in Burton - I wonder if BA stands for Burton Albion. Bid placed. Hopefully I'll get outbid else I'll be looking for a divorce solicitor. 
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May 30, 2019 11:57:54 GMT |
It would be great if this became a RetroRides owned car and we could all see it documented, and maybe resurrected and reinterpreted as a restomod tribute to what the original builder had intended. Okay so we'd lose the horse shoes and welded chain but there would be some features worth keeping and the rest could be re-done in a manner that was sympathetic to the old but highly appealing to today's crowd.
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fr€$h&m1nt¥
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May 30, 2019 12:04:30 GMT |
It would be great if this became a RetroRides owned car and we could all see it documented, and maybe resurrected and reinterpreted as a restomod tribute to what the original builder had intended. Okay so we'd lose the horse shoes and welded chain but there would be some features worth keeping and the rest could be re-done in a manner that was sympathetic to the old but highly appealing to today's crowd. If i do win i'd wash it / polish it / pump tyres up / replace horse shoes with spike bolts then hope it starts and runs okay then see where it goes. 
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May 30, 2019 12:30:45 GMT |
@quatermass
How very well written your big entry is.
I am 100% there with you.
Also think it should be preserved as its a wonderful example of thr art.
Thanks for taking the time to write that up.
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May 30, 2019 12:57:45 GMT |
Would of had a cheeky bid but at £310 already it's already at more than I'd be willing to gamble on it 😆
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May 30, 2019 13:05:41 GMT |
The sort of custom creation we all saw 1970 / 1980 and then watched that format evolve through to today and the current custom modified / retro scene.
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Started out with nothing and have most of it left.
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fr€$h&m1nt¥
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May 30, 2019 13:07:07 GMT |
Would of had a cheeky bid but at £310 already it's already at more than I'd be willing to gamble on it 😆 Let's hope not everyone thinks that way 
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