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Mar 13, 2019 16:22:20 GMT
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So if the aforementioned wandering dickheads succeed in having the road downgraded to no motor traffic status, presumably with bollards to prevent vehicle entry, how does the farmer access his land? Exactly... Never bothered the Ramblers before, though! |
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Paul Y
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Mar 19, 2019 21:55:05 GMT
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Chris, Bit late to the party but hope to to see that sense continues to prevail. Part of the reason why I moved to the middle of a field with no neighbours 20 years ago. Got sick of idiots telling me what trees I could plant, how many cars I could park on my drive way and the colour I could paint my front door. P.  |
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Mar 19, 2019 23:48:06 GMT
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So has very much predicted earlier - the first complaint has been made to the local authority by my immediate neighbours whom opposed the planning application from day 1 - said complaint is that a modern vehicle has been seen entering my workshop for work to be undertaken and my planning application is worded 'Specialist Small Scale Classic Car Restoration' - the local authority enforcement officer called me yesterday to advise me of the situation and wanted to talk through the matter prior issuing anything formal - the formal notification arrived shortly after by e mail and I responded this morning - in brief something to this effect: Two vehicles have been into the workshop recently for work to be undertaken - first one was a 1972 BMW 2500 - clearly a classic but due its absolutely stunning condition and what appears to be a private registration number (in fact is the original registration index for the car) could be confused for something much younger by someone naïve, misinformed & petty enough to do so - I pointed out that the car in question is highly sought after and fully recognised & supported by the BMW Car Club GB. Second one was a Saab 9-3 Turbo convertible registered in 2006 and now 13 years old - (regular client of mine) - since Saab ceased production in 2012 the cars have become quite collectable especially looked after ones and again this one could be readily confused for something much younger due it to the way in which it is excellently cared for & presented - I listed a few examples of the model type that had been recently offered & sold by specialist classic car action houses and also detailed the fact that the Saab Club GB fully recognised & support the model with many members owning such examples Clearly my neighbour still has an axe to grind (more fool them) - the enforcement officer has been delight to deal with - within 10 mins of my e mail landing there was a response back stating that the complaint was dismissed and the case closed Said neighbour has also now started to lay claim to the verge on the lane adjacent to their hedgerow which I believe is their boundary (they have a right of way to the lane but have no ownership of it) 5 properties that are based on the lane all share responsibility for the maintenance of it but my immediate complaining neighbour are not one of the 5 - of recent days pegs have been hammered in & turf laid to the verge   I guess that they attempting to make life has difficult has possible for me - especially when reversing the trailer down to the workshop or swinging anything of any length in or out of the workshop (pretty futile has far I am concerned - if that's what they want waste there time & efforts on then so be it) I might however just read up on the property deeds and seek some legal clarification but I just might not have to bother too - its bin day tomorrow - the lorry has to reverse down the lane - 2 of them in fact has it recycling collection this week - its a tight enough fit has it is and I think that at least 200mm of that turf is going under the back wheel of the bin lorry |
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Last Edit: Mar 19, 2019 23:52:43 GMT by Deleted
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Part of the reason why I moved to the middle of a field with no neighbours 20 years ago. Got sick of idiots telling me what trees I could plant, how many cars I could park on my drive way and the colour I could paint my front door. P. Agree wholeheartedly. The world is full of people with nothing better to do than curse word and moan about nothing. My impossible dream is to own a property of sufficient acreage that it would be possible to fire a heavy caliber rifle in any direction from the main house and know that the spent bullet would full to earth within the boundary. That said I'm pretty lucky where I am now. Seldom see the neighbours and the nearest (we actually own land on both sides of his property) is a really nice bloke who doesn't give a f*ck what we do and will tell you so himself.
GN, I predict that the majority of those pegs will last about as long as it takes for the bin lorries to come and go. Your neighbours are obviously complete plonkers. Wonder if they intend to maintain that meaningless area of turf or just let it do its own thing?
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glenanderson
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If the lane doesn’t belong to them, then they’ve no business obstructing the lawful passage of those that it does belong to. If they have some kind of easement or established right of way over the lane, then they may be jeopardising that by erecting permanent obstacles without permission of the landowner(s).
If it’s clear on the deeds where their boundary lies then I’d be getting legal advice.
Or getting a friendly farmer to run down the lane with a tractor one evening.
It’d be interesting to see how the bin lorry men react if they clip one of those posts and wreck a tyre.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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oldisbetter
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If it has a ECU it's complicated :)
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It would be a bad thing if someone was injured by falling over one of the pegs.
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glenanderson
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Mar 20, 2019 12:43:22 GMT
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It would be a bad thing if someone was injured by falling over one of the pegs. Deliberately placed trip hazards, on an unlit lane the public have access to, that doesn’t belong to them... I hope their house insurance covers public liability. |
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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melle
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Mar 20, 2019 13:08:45 GMT
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also detailed the fact that the Saab Club GB fully recognised & support the model with many members owning such examples If that's a valid argument you should be safe with any Saab in your workshop, as the club recognises and supports all Saab models. |
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www.saabv4.com'70 Saab 96 V4 "The Devil's Own V4" '77 Saab 95 V4 van conversion project '88 Saab 900i 8V
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Mar 20, 2019 14:22:35 GMT
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also detailed the fact that the Saab Club GB fully recognised & support the model with many members owning such examples If that's a valid argument you should be safe with any Saab in your workshop, as the club recognises and supports all Saab models. Its been accepted by the local authority so now with the modern classics market some cars don't have to be very old to find them emerging & gaining collectable status - check the specialist classic car auction houses and you will see a widespread mix of performance & prestige vehicles that are 5 + years old offered on their books - even better if there is a owners club that accepts the newer cars has well the older versions - so on that basis I stand on firm ground - the clueless duo are probably still have another go at me whenever they can - I hold a sensible head but I also stubbornly refuse to be walked over by a pair of idiots that reside on the opposite side of the lane from me |
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Mar 20, 2019 15:11:44 GMT
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If I were in your position, and thankfully I'm not, I wou!d check my own deeds and park my car, 6 inches within my bourdary line (I assume that is the gravelled area outside your workshop and just wait for the bin men. In my experience, they take the line of no resistance and would drive over the grass. But then I really can't stand w*nkers like those you describe!!! They are obviously watching your every move...and there are very stiff penalties these days for stalking and voyerism.
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paul99
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Mar 20, 2019 16:23:53 GMT
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If I were in your position, and thankfully I'm not, I wou!d check my own deeds and park my car, 6 inches within my bourdary line (I assume that is the gravelled area outside your workshop and just wait for the bin men. In my experience, they take the line of no resistance and would drive over the grass. But then I really can't stand w*nkers like those you describe!!! They are obviously watching your every move...and there are very stiff penalties these days for stalking and voyerism. Was about to suggest strategic positioning of a certain classic Range Rover on bin day..... 
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Mar 20, 2019 18:09:59 GMT
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you have the legal and moral high ground , under no circumstances stoop to my level and enhance your neighbours beautiful verge....  |
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Mar 20, 2019 20:45:08 GMT
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**sigh** Some people are so mean & spiteful. What sad,sad, little minds they have. Agreed with above, leave your trailer outside the workshop so the bin lorries have to keep to their side |
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Mar 20, 2019 20:47:11 GMT
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It would be a bad thing if someone was injured by falling over one of the pegs. Deliberately placed trip hazards, on an unlit lane the public have access to, that doesn’t belong to them... I hope their house insurance covers public liability. Is setting man traps still illegal in the UK? This might easily be construed as being something very similar at a stretch. |
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jules
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Mar 20, 2019 21:56:21 GMT
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Clearly my neighbour still has an axe to grind (more fool them) - the enforcement officer has been delight to deal with - within 10 mins of my e mail landing there was a response back stating that the complaint was dismissed and the case closed
If that is the case I would press for the complaint to be recorded as a vexatious one. I believe these types of complaints are being treated more seriously and if your neighbour continues with a similar line of complaining it will stand in good stead for yourself not having to defend yourself so readily in future. ie the enforcement officer will throw it out without even troubling you. Had to speak to a planning consultant recently about a complaint that I recently received, don't want to go into details but he said my local planning offices have been receiving more and more of these recently he said and are labelling them as vexatious which helps put them to bed so to speak !
Good luck though, hope you can just smile and wave when you see said neighbour. Best way forward !
Very interesting read though. Had a very bad experience with a neighbour a few years, who dropped down to unbelievable petty behaviour again over a planning application that went in my favour. There are just unfortunately some very some sad individuals around.
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Mar 20, 2019 23:03:09 GMT
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My current neighbours had issues with the previous owner of our house - so bad they was putting their house up for sale.
Then he saw the 'for sale' signs and waited with bated breath.
When we move in they were overcome with relief - we removed the high fences giving them a view again, removed the overhanging tree, were not rude to them and we are now good friends who get along well enough to go for dinner together, they think I'm great (don't know why, lol!) even with my noisy car and loud(ish) music in the workshop most weekends.
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63v8
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Mar 30, 2019 12:38:03 GMT
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Glad to see that the Local Authority are giving you the backing and support you deserve. Any new developments in the lane with posts etc while you were away at the NEC ?
Like so many people on here I really enjoy reading your restoration threads. No matter what make or type of vehicle your working on they are always an education with workmanship at it's very best.
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Mar 31, 2019 18:54:13 GMT
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Glad to see that the Local Authority are giving you the backing and support you deserve. Any new developments in the lane with posts etc while you were away at the NEC ? Like so many people on here I really enjoy reading your restoration threads. No matter what make or type of vehicle your working on they are always an education with workmanship at it's very best. Thanks - pegs are already loose & falling out  And the turf is so poorly laid over the top of loose gravel that its already started to yellow & die back |
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Mar 31, 2019 19:14:59 GMT
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Suggest that you keep a photo time line record on this thread so that no one can accuse you of doctored photos at a later date, or personal vandalism
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If that is their strip of land, why is the road sign on it? Surely the hedge is the boundary. Why would you put a hedge a couple of feet before the end of your land. These people are taking the pi55.
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