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Feb 24, 2019 12:45:44 GMT
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I am awaiting the first complaint to arrive via the council - pretty sure that my neighbours are petty enough to do so - yesterday I finished at 1300 hours in the workshop has I should have but found a couple of hours spare to have a look at my P6 Rover which has been sat outside for the last 2.5 years (much to my own shame - but life does get in the way) - it has a ignition problem somewhere but I managed to get it running - but not for long - I need to delve further into what the issue is - one of restrictions with the planning is that I can only work to the listed hours on two vehicles at any one time in the workshop whilst in connection with the business - I read that (and so does my planning agent) has I can only work on 2 vehicles at anyone time that are housed within the workshop during the listed times on a commercially paid basis - so I await the complaint that I have breached that condition and worked on a vehicle outside of the workshop and outside of the listed hours.
Said vehicle has been in my own personal ownership since 2004 - is not work that I would ever receive commercial (or any other form of payment for come to that) -Therefore it has no connection with the business what so ever
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Feb 24, 2019 17:21:25 GMT
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Said vehicle has been in my own personal ownership since 2004 - is not work that I would ever receive commercial (or any other form of payment for come to that) -Therefore it has no connection with the business what so ever ergo....shove it mr a hole neighbour. as far as i know you only have room for two customer vehicles in the workshop anyway , so that's not a biggie. does the planning consent state "workshop" or "property"? just a though as your hard standing isn't the workshop. |
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Feb 24, 2019 17:47:25 GMT
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Said vehicle has been in my own personal ownership since 2004 - is not work that I would ever receive commercial (or any other form of payment for come to that) -Therefore it has no connection with the business what so ever ergo....shove it mr a hole neighbour. as far as i know you only have room for two customer vehicles in the workshop anyway , so that's not a biggie. does the planning consent state "workshop" or "property"? just a though as your hard standing isn't the workshop. Distinctly states workshop and not property - I looked into to all of the wording when the consent came through - I thought that it may hang me on anything modern that came into the workshop has I have several clients with prestige & performance cars that you could not call classic - the consent for change of use is to allow 'Specialist small scale classic car restoration' however it lists that no more than two 'motor vehicles' are be worked upon at one time - has you state I can only accommodate 2 vehicles in the workshop any way - it has no restriction on parked vehicles outside of the workshop and the fact that they have used the term motor vehicles does not tie it to a classic - the paint repair methods & materials for moderns are virtually identical with what I use for classics and I see no argument - that's not say that wont try that one on at some stage either and if they do I will just have to apply the same ethos that I did to the planning application in the first place. |
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Last Edit: Feb 24, 2019 20:22:01 GMT by Deleted
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Feb 24, 2019 18:05:06 GMT
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per-zakly as we say down here!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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I've only just come across this, just want to add my words of 'congratulations' to all the others that have posted.
I find your threads some of the most interesting, informative and astonishing on this forum, would that I could achieve anything like your levels of craftsmanship. You always seem ready to help and advise too, what's not to like?
I had wondered what was going on with the Corsair thread, never thought for a minute it was due to a problem with a neighbour. Live and let live is the motto I try to live by, I'm fortunate enough to have good neighbours, not that I do much work at home anyway.
Glad it's all sorted and in your favour, keep up the excellent work.
Right, I have a few pages of the Corsair thread to catch up on now.
Regards, Mark.
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oldisbetter
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@grumpynorthener, neighbours can be such a pain and very one sided, mine are really good and when i wanted to extend my garage i chatted to them all and did a drawing of the views they would have and they were all in support, i checked with my local council and they said send a letter with what i was planning and they would let me know if it was a problem, this is where i made a big mistake as i used all the info on the planning portal website and worked out i did not need permission but even so i sent a letter to my local planning and that is when i found out any old tom dick or harry could make a complaint about planning, we worked out it was a person no where near that complained and it had no effect on them the only good thing is i spent £250 having plans made up by a nice retired architect and that is all it cost me, the complaint was about the street view not the building so i learned something new and made a new friend and now i have a decent garage space.
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melle
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neighbours can be such a pain and very one sided Probably just as one sided as you are in their eyes... In disputes between neighbours there are generally only losers, I guess GN's case is no exception. I've been involved in a dragging conflict with neighbours over a piece of our property they claimed was theirs. Following that, they tried to first (legally) block and then (physically) obstruct the build of a partition wall and a garage. The neighbours were "normal" people (as far as they exist!), maybe not the type we would be friends with, but certainly not monsters. Police, council and lawyers got involved and we "won" on all fronts, but I can't say our "victories" have given me any pleasure. On the contrary, thinking of that time still makes me feel sad we haven't been able to work it out in a more pleasurable way and that no agreeable solution appeared to be possible. Everyone involved could have used their energy, time and money spent on quarrelling and legal procedures so much better (apart from the lawyers maybe). Life's too short for this sort of sh¡t, it's a shame we sometimes get dragged in because of different expectations and lack of communication; before you know it's too late. |
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Luckily we've got superb neighbours... when we first moved here, we'd always promised ourselves a 'Toy Box'; so, chat to senior Planning Officer - "No sir, you don't need planning permission for the shed/workshop you are erecting, as long as it's compliant with all Building Regs & doesn't cover more than 1/2 your garden(!)." Great, says I! Up goes the toybox, all to spec & 'no worries' thinks I...
A couple of weeks later, at the loal Parish Council meeting (I'd been tipped the wink to attend by a local farmer), one particularly nosey busybody from a lane about 1/2 mile away raised a concern that our outbuilding was affecting her view.
One of the Councillors (theFarmer) suggested that he might be the best person to respond to the concern as he'd lived close by all his life...
He looked at Mrs Nosey & asked if she'd climbed out of her upstairs bathroom window onto the roof & hung on to her chimney to get a view of the structure as her house was located end-on to the direction she'd need to look in & was over 800 yards away on another with 3 lines of trees in the way! She went bright pink & sat down huffing......
At this point, I could have bowed down and worshipped him! Bill became a good friend until he died a few years later (with his boots on).
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Last Edit: Mar 2, 2019 14:37:04 GMT by moosevan
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oldisbetter
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If it has a ECU it's complicated :)
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These are the before and after pictures of my build, Maybe someone who complained thought it looked better with the wall falling down and a fence that was falling apart lol
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this is the after picture for some reason the edit wont let me load it above   See that's where you went wrong - you didn't obtain planning permission for your pink fringed window blinds - and they kept the neighbours awake all night  |
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oldisbetter
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If it has a ECU it's complicated :)
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Lol they change colour
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oldisbetter
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melle
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It'll come out in the wash.
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And on page 3 you can see what my neighbours complained about.  |
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www.saabv4.com'70 Saab 96 V4 "The Devil's Own V4" '77 Saab 95 V4 van conversion project '88 Saab 900i 8V
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oldisbetter
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The person who complained lives 2 streets away, The bordering neighbour was happy from start to finish but yes you never can be sure what upsets people.
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Mar 10, 2019 11:47:21 GMT
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Only just come across this. I'm a junior solicitor (please don't judge, it was an accident!) and I dispair at the way some 'neighbours' carry on, I hate unbelievable pettiness. Whatever happened to mural respect and getting on with your nearby folks! Glad some of your neighbours sound very good though. Anyway brilliant result at the council, top bloke top result there.
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Last Edit: Mar 10, 2019 11:49:44 GMT by s1105117
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Mar 10, 2019 12:22:26 GMT
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I spoke too soon... seems like the 'lady on the roof' is also a Rambler (spit!). Now, we live in rural Herefordshire on a dead end lane which leads to a WORKING Farm.
Just had a letter/form in the post stating that the Herfordshire Ramblers (based in Worcestershire) are applying to 'Upgrade' our unadopted road to become unusable by mechanically propelled vehicles.
The farm has been here longer than the Ramblers have been in existence & all the houses on the lane have shared responsibility for maintaining the road - it's bloody wide enough for Ramblers to walk 6-8 across - so, even with a vehicle occasionally parked, they have no loss of amenity, as it's a ROAD & has been a logging road to the woods for 100's of years! It's also the ONLY way out in heavy snow/ice as the lower end of the lane is often impassable due to ice & vicious camber.
Am I hacked off at the expense and hassle this is about to cause?? Just a little.
On to my insurer's legal people on Monday...
Oh well, another day, another war!
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Mar 10, 2019 13:44:37 GMT
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I spoke too soon... seems like the 'lady on the roof' is also a Rambler (spit!). Now, we live in rural Herefordshire on a dead end lane which leads to a WORKING Farm. Just had a letter/form in the post stating that the Herfordshire Ramblers (based in Worcestershire) are applying to 'Upgrade' our unadopted road to become unusable by mechanically propelled vehicles. The farm has been here longer than the Ramblers have been in existence & all the houses on the lane have shared responsibility for maintaining the road - it's bloody wide enough for Ramblers to walk 6-8 across - so, even with a vehicle occasionally parked, they have no loss of amenity, as it's a ROAD & has been a logging road to the woods for 100's of years! It's also the ONLY way out in heavy snow/ice as the lower end of the lane is often impassable due to ice & vicious camber. Am I hacked off at the expense and hassle this is about to cause?? Just a little. On to my insurer's legal people on Monday... Oh well, another day, another war! Hope you get it sorted - our private lane is also a public right of way but I get on ok with all that use it - they always have pleasant comments about the classics parked outside - the fact that I and another one of my neighbours maintain the lane - and a few of the lane walkers / ramblers / users have had their cars sorted by me goes a long way |
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Mar 10, 2019 16:58:50 GMT
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Sadly, it's been like that here for the last 13 years... only just raised it's ugly head - farmer next door had been asked if she owned the lane next to her by this individual some weeks ago as "they ere looking to upgrade the lane" &, as she's floating around with the PC Footpaths volunteer officer, my neighbour thought nothing more of it... Now to watch things go sour... fingers crossed you get no more petty issues now. TBH Chris, I'm guessing it's more like she & friends don't appreciate the 'stuff' my son builds - www.attitudeadjustmentracing.com & more'Death-Race' styled personal (and fuly road legal) personal transport... |
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Last Edit: Mar 10, 2019 17:01:27 GMT by moosevan
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Mar 10, 2019 23:04:45 GMT
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So if the aforementioned wandering dickheads succeed in having the road downgraded to no motor traffic status, presumably with bollards to prevent vehicle entry, how does the farmer access his land?
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