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Had been hoping to get most of a day to mess around with car stuff today...however it was gone six in the evening before that actually happened. So not a massive amount done, but the pipework tidying from yesterday has continued. I did quite early on do my first idiotic thing of the day when an went to remove the first bit of piping to trim it. I made absolutely sure that the water pump was switched off...I didn't however turn a tap on to depressurise the system, did I? So the moment I pulled the pipe off, I promptly got a rather cold shower. This unsurprisingly made me jump and smack my head on the underneath of the worktop that was folded under at the time. In the process finding another couple of old panel pins still poking out and tearing a hole in one of my favourite T-shirts (and my shoulder). We're getting there though. This is actually starting to look like it's being put together by someone who is vaguely competent now...doesn't it? The pipes heading up through to the worktop will be trimmed above the worktop tomorrow as it's way easier to do from that side than trying to get it millimetre perfect while standing on your head in the puddle of water you just spilled. The copper pipe you can see there is the gas supply for the water heater, it will be getting run along there just below the water pipes - once I track down some 8mm pipe clips (or I make up some rubber spacers and just clip an additional 15mm one on to the ones already there) I'll get that done. I'll probably pull that pipe out and fit a new one as I'd rather have a single piece all the way from the appliance all the way to the distribution manifold rather than having any unnecessary joints which could be potential leak sources in the future. This is where we stopped tonight thanks to another idiotic blunder on my part. The clips are quite a tight fit (unsurprising given the hoses are thicker walled than the equivalent copper pipe), so you either need to give them a good old shove to click them closed. Or you can thump them with a hammer (especially for the awkward ones in the corner that are harder to get at) and they click straight in usually. Right up to the point you totally miss and instead of the clip you thump your thumb. Ouch. At the time I swore then went about continuing what I was doing - until thirty seconds later until I realised that the *drip...drip...drip...drip...* I could hear wasn't in fact water, it was blood. Maybe I should actually pay attention to what I just did to myself after all! Given I was thoroughly out of daylight by this point I decided to just call it a day. Not sure if tomorrow will see me get some more stuff done here or if I will put a bit of proper time in on the Invacar instead. Readjusting the CVT belt tension (reckon it's currently a bit tight based on the snatching I've been seeing when moving off) and taking the fuel gauge sender out and flipping it through 180 degrees because some idiot (that would be me) put it in upside down.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Mar 31, 2019 17:18:04 GMT
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the thumbs-up button seems somewhat inappropriate given the nature of the incident described in the last post ...
Anyway I enjoy reading about your progress and hope there's less blood in future updates!
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This turned up this morning. So shall be able to get the gas system rebuilt shortly. Figured just buying a new one was easier than faffing around trying to get the ancient one cleaned up and sealed properly. The downpour that we have had overnight has done a good job of highlighting that rainwater is still getting into the one corner of the van. Still not entirely sure exactly where the point of entry is. However for the purpose of elimination of a possibility I have refitted and properly sealed the high level tail lights (though obviously this will make myself more MOT prep work as I will need to wire them up now). Not actually a bad idea anyway as one limitation of the of the factory lights in the bumper is that they aren't visible from the side at all - the little orange reflector is just that, it's not a repeater. Plus given the fact that so many drivers seem to be in a complete daze addition of extra lights can only be a good thing. I have also re-bedded one of the bits of sealant just below one of the upper weatherstripping which looked a bit suspect. If this still doesn't do it I will just pull all of the strips and trim off the entire corner of the van, clean back and rebuild everything from scratch. Messy job but it will probably be needed. Have also added a little sticker to the rear window showing support for a friend of a friend of a friend who has been going through some exceptionally hard times over in the US. I usually go great lengths to avoid putting stickers on my cars - though this is for a good cause, plus I think you can get away with a bit more on a camper without stuff looking silly. I think these little guys are cute anyway...
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Every time I do any work on an exhaust I swear that it will be the last time. Today was no exception. The van's exhaust consists of four main assemblies. [] Manifold, downpipe and Flexi. [] Expansion box. [] Silencer. [] Ridiculously long tail pipe. Both the expansion box and silencer one mine are stuffed. The silencer has a heap of holes in and the expansion box suffers from a broken hanger in addition to one of the baffles having come loose so it buzzes like crazy at idle. Pretty sure the main silencer had collapsed internally as well, making the system far more restrictive than it should be. The expansion box came loose without much protest. The silencer on the other hand... After roughly two hours of swearing, hitting things with hammers, heating stuff with a blowtorch then burning my fingers on it, I finally wrestled the main silencer off. I really want to get a better designed stainless system fitted with the tailpipe venting to the side of the van well clear of any air vents, but may just have to settle for a stock system until the MOT is out the way.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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So the task for this weekend is as far as possible to bash our way through the list of stuff the van needs for an MOT. Let's start out with some low hanging fruit. The nearside headlight reflector is sufficiently tarnished to result in there being zip by way of a beam image. Usefully a brand new headlight was found in a box in the van, so I fitted that. Nice five minute job. The old one doesn't actually look too bad surprisingly, but it was utterly failing to do anything by way of actually directing light in a useful direction. Beam height will need adjusting obviously but that can wait until it's pointing the other direction so I can use the garage door, which I think still has marks on from when I adjusted the headlights on the Saab about four years ago. The next thing on the MOT list was to eliminate a minor fuel leak. There was a very slow drip from the return line to the tank with the engine running, emanating from somewhere up between the fuel tank and vacuum reservoir. This was quickly traced to this pipe joiner. It was utterly disinterested in gripping the fuel pipe firmly no matter what I did. So it was removed, binned and a short length of 5/16" fuel hose was slipped over the join between the two pipes instead. While I did get diesel in my hair this was another quick job, fuel tight and tested after less than ten minutes. There is a new exhaust on the way. Unfortunately this is a slightly different type to the one the van was previously fitted with (I was struggling to find anyone who actually had that in stock), so the downpipe and tailpipe of the old system would need to come off. My original plan had been to retain those until I got around to having a bespoke stainless system made for it. Thanks to decent quality fasteners it only took fifteen minutes to get the tailpipe off. It's seeing stuff like this which really highlights how much longer the van is than most cars. This whole stretch will be removed once the bespoke system is made - given the weight of this that can only be a good thing. I'm not removing the downpipe and expansion box (which is only loosely bolted on just now) until the new system arrives as that will essentially immobilise the van. I have doused the manifold to downpipe bolts in Plusgas though. There were a number of things in the van which didn't work when I got it. Among those were the marker lights above the cab. I want to resolve that. This is where I went off on a merry old dance. After approximately an hour the cab had ended up looking like this. This was all going on because I was peering into the bowels of the wiring loom trying to figure out where on earth the feed to those lights was meant to come from. I had found two fuses in the fuse box which were labelled as marker light (well, they were actually labelled in German but not hard to translate). However tracing the conductors from there proved exceedingly difficult, and I couldn't figure out how they got into the space above the cab. After wasting not an insignificant amount of time dismantling the cab, I eventually tracked down a total of five wires heading up into the windscreen pillars. All of these were accounted for as part of the interior light circuit. Cue much more head scratching. Eventually after several times longer than it should have, the penny dropped. It was highly unlikely that AutoTrail were going to have messed with the cab wiring...they stuck some carpet and fancy velour in there, but they didn't faff with the wiring. The only area where the standard lighting had been messed with was at the back, where the tail lights were moved from the cross member where they would have been when it was just a bare chassis with a cab to the rear bumper...oh, and the upper level tail lights. Wait a minute... didn't I find a couple of wires I couldn't account for ages ago, but just stuffed away because they appeared inert. Yeah... here's two of them... Surely these couldn't be anything to do with the marker lights way up front... surely? Well let's find out. One was a solid ground connection...the other wasn't...so let's stick 12V down it and see what happens. Seriously?!? Awards for the most ridiculously unnecessarily circuitous route for wiring to feed a couple of lights? Annoyingly the feed which I suspect to be for the nearside one is now safely terminated and buried behind the bathroom wall...the wall I just finished building and finished tidily. Argh! I am not pulling that all apart again if I can avoid it - especially on the clock like this. Currently thinking the best plan of action is to cut a couple of holes in the trim in the locker over the cab and just stick the lights in parallel... they're only 10W so should be just fine that way. That's as far as we got today. Hopefully will get those back in a working state tomorrow and then move on to the next things on the list. Getting the new brake pads in is probably looking like a favourite for the next job. Will definitely need to get the rust in the bulkhead seen to sooner than later won't I. Hopefully this won't be an issue at the MOT as it should be well clear of any prescribed areas. For now Kurust and Dinitrol will be the order of the day to keep the weather out.
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Last Edit: Apr 21, 2019 0:42:29 GMT by Zelandeth
Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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So if I remember rightly we had just figured out where the wiring for the offside front marker light emerged into somewhere vaguely accessible. This had pretty much confirmed to me that the mystery wire that I'd stuffed into a corner above the bathroom ceiling was actually for a light at the opposite end of the van... This left me with a bit of a quandary. Namely that getting access to that wire - which I couldn't even remember if I had trimmed back as far as I could - meant having to tear apart at least a fair chunk of the upper rear wall in the bathroom, the wall I had just spent a not inconsiderable amount of time building. I did pull apart a tiny bit in one corner to see if I could find the wire by stuffing my hand into the void and grasping blindly. Not a chance. I decided quite quickly to abandon that idea as there was a far easier solution to my mind. Having the lights individually fed from each tail light was a little unnecessary to my mind. Just sticking them in parallel on a single feed seems fine to me. We're walking a pair of 10W festoon lamps (which I will probably replace long term with LEDs - warm white ones before you all jump down my throat) rather than any high power stuff. This still left me with some work to do, as being a coach built van, all of the wiring and such was routed long before the interior plywood lining was put in place. Initially I wondered if it might be possible to get the upper front trim panel in the over cab locker off. After spending half an hour in there (and nearly dying of heat exhaustion) I ascertained that AutoTrail weren't messing around. The panels are both stapled to the frame *and* glued in place. It ain't going anywhere. I then decided to take a somewhat more direct (if barbaric) approach as I was done with standing on my head in the locker. I went round outside, pulled the cover off the lights, found where the cable fed into the van, stuck the screwdriver into that hole then gave it a smack with the palm of my hand, more than enough to punch a hole in the plywood trim inside the van which I could then use as a marker for where I needed to dig out a bit of a hole to gain access. Likewise on the offside - the mess in the corner there is from my earlier attempts to see if I could get the panel off in its entirety. It was a quick matter then to disconnect the original live feed to the nearside light and terminate it, and to wire a link between the two to feed them both from the original offside light. I'll obviously make a couple of little covers to go over the holes and will clip the wire in place. I had taken the lenses off both of them last night to give them a good clean as they were full of pond scum. The seals having disintegrated years ago. There is quite a bit of crazing on them, but they've cleaned up pretty well. That was half the challenge...I now had the lights ready to accept power and a wire dangling out of the rear kitchen cupboard...however there was a kitchen and a floor between it and the relevant bit of the vehicle loom for me to tie it in to. I decided in the end not to go pulling the walls apart again. I drilled a small hole in the base of the cupboard (it has a lip along the front so it's not visible) having pulled the window blind runner and window trim off, tucked the wire into the void under the trim, drilled another small hole in the worktop (again hidden by the window trim), and routed the wire down to the space below down the cabinets. Then I had it follow the sink waste pipe through the floor. No it ain't pretty. This is a job I can definitely see me coming back to at some point in the future (I'll need to open the walls up really when I reinstate the high level tail lights) but it will at least get the lights working for now. Once I got it that far I just pulled the offside tail light cluster out and put a piggy back spade terminal on this side and hooked it up to the tail light lamp holder. Glad to see they seem to be fully weatherproof as there was zero signs of water ingress inside the cluster. The moment of truth of course was to see what would happen when I turned on the headlights. Hard to see in such bright sunlight, so here's one from a few hours later. Much better! Seeing that pleases me far more than it probably should do. On the subject of lighting (as it seemed as good a time to do a full check on it with the MOT coming up and all that) I found that the nearside front indicator was out. New lamp time. This should be a ten second job, if it wasn't for the stupid poorly fitted alarm wiring getting in the way yet again. This thing had been annoying me for months. The entire installation was a mess. This nonsense floating around in the fusebox for a start. The only fusing to the whole thing being in the *ground* connection didn't instill confidence either. Twenty minutes later the engine bay looked a good deal less cluttered. This is the pile of rubbish that was removed. The interior could then be put back together. Having tidied up the wiring behind the fuse box meant it was far easier to get it back in place this time. Also hopefully has put an end to getting wiring stuck in the seal when putting the engine cover back in. Before I buttoned that up I drowned the whole rusty area under the heater intake with Kurust. Also put some tape on this area on the engine side to keep any further water out until I have the opportunity to get a new panel welded in. Annoyingly removal of the ultrasonic transducer assembly from the top of the dashboard left three holes. ...So I just stuck that back in place. Not that I think a circa 1990 car alarm is likely to be much of a deterrent to would be thieves, it can't hurt. Plus it's a useful thing to attach cameras etc to. It can stay there until I either find something else to take its place or find a dash moulding free of screw holes. The LED in the dash is staying put for now similarly to avoid leaving a hole. I will be putting an indicator in there to give me a visual indication in the cab of if the power has been left on in the back of the van so I can't forget to switch stuff off before leaving the van or driving off. The nearside indicator repeater lens is in dire need of a good clean as like the lenses of the marker lights it's been full of pond scum and rust. Brake pads next. First challenge there will be seeing if I can get the wheel trims off in one piece - if not it will be all the more excuse to bin the horrible things!
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Have been putting it off for long enough...time to get the brake pads changed. Have to admit to being hugely impressed by this tiny little jack. Two aspects. Firstly is that it lifted something the size and weight of this van effortlessly. Secondly in that it's cleverly designed so it slots securely around the suspension leaf (or axle tube at the rear). This also makes the jacking process far less unnerving as you don't need to lift the thing feet into the air - literally about an inch has the tyre clear of the ground. Very glad that I bought the rattle gun...very much doubt I'd have got these wheel nuts out without it...to say they were tight would be a massive understatement. It's pleasing how substantial everything on this is when you're used to working on cars. Nice to see the discs are obviously pretty decent, no lip at all. Let's have a look then and see how the calipers come apart to get the pads out...wait a second... ...I thought we were dealing with a worn out set of pads. Not a set that's barely used. Oh well, got a good opportunity to check things over while the wheel is off. Grease gun was brought in and the kingpin given a good shot of grease (yes I did wipe the excess off before I put the wheel back on). Annoyingly I almost immediately spotted more MOT work though. The track rod end ball joint dust cover is knackered. That's one substantial drop link! Everything else over this side looks okay to me. Bit of rust on the brake hose ferrules, but they've got another year or two in them I reckon. Hoses themselves seem nice and supple still with no perishing. Can't see anything awry with the wiring to the pad wear sensors in that the wheel arch. Have the hub a good brush down and painted the wheel surface with copper grease as per my usual practice and put things back together. Then on to the offside wheel. I was slightly worried given the new pads in the nearside but the perpetually flickering brake light on the dash that I would find that someone had only changed the pads on one wheel (wouldn't be the first time I have found that!). Thank goodness for that! Gave the kingpin on this side a good dose of grease while I was there too. This is something which is often neglected on these old Mercs. The steering should be lovely and light once you're on the move (especially if it's got the correct tyres on) though it's inevitably fairly weighty when parking! Annoying to hear of people having to do major work due to wear in there for the sake of a 30 second bit of service work! Hey look...another stuffed track rod end. Not too bothered about those as track rod ends are hardly going to break the bank. The other split dust cover however is on the steering linkage from the steering box (I believe drag link is the correct term?) which is rather more annoying as I expect this is rather more expensive. This one I actually knew about beforehand so not a huge surprise. There's a little bit of play in one of the joints as you can hear something very faintly going "dunk dunk dunk..." when you rock the steering. Can't see where it's coming from but given where that is it's a prime candidate. Don't *think* it's one of the track rod ends as I can't feel anything in the way of movement at the wheels. Looks like my local Mercedes dealer will be making some money out of me tomorrow then. Yes I could probably find stuff a bit cheaper on eBay (etc) but the parts desk at our dealer has been really helpful so far. Plus Mercedes seem to have really good heritage support and I'm more than willing to pay a few quid extra to show that is owners appreciate that. Depending on how time goes I might fit those things myself...though I'd rather get the garage to. I generally avoid steering and suspension work if I have any choice these days. I've played the "the ball joint appears to have been welded in place and I've immobilised the car trying to get it out" game enough times to learn that throwing it at someone with a four post lift, serious ball joint splitters and oxy-acytaline on hand is far less stress. Not too worried about that. This however requires more thought and some time spent with my nose buried in a wiring diagram. The pad wear sensors appear fine and the pads have a good 1/3" of friction material on them. No the fluid isn't low either and the float is floating. Hmm...time to have a think. Some folks have given me a couple of garages who should be able to do a test on the van so will give them a shout tomorrow. Still finding this quite nice to work on though. The fasteners are all good quality and most things are nice and chunky, *usually* easy enough to get at too. There are exceptions of course too...see offside front indicator swap which requires you to remove the headlight - which requires you to remove the radiator grill.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:27:49 GMT
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I figured that the issue with the brake pad warning system had to be an issue at the wheels. The logic behind this was that the light would come on solidly only when the brakes were applied, it could be made to flicker by rocking the steering too. The wiring to the sensors looked sound and wasn't shorting out on the anti rattle springs or anything obvious like that. All four of the pads on the front brakes have a wear sensor in. This is essentially just a wire that's inserted and glued into a void drilled in the brake pads just proud of the backing plate, so that it completes a circuit via the disc to light the warning lamp when the pads have worn down. You can see the hole for the sensor just to the right of the central groove in the friction material of the pad below. For those not familiar with the brake warning light on the dash of a Merc T1, it performs two tasks. One is linked to a float in the fluid reservoir as on any vehicle. The second function is the brake pad wear indicator. The light only comes on if either the fluid is low or if the pad wear sensors are triggered (and during a self-test when the ignition is turned on, extinguishing when the engine is started). It is NOT a handbrake warning light. The wear sensors are not fitted to the pads from the factory and have to be inserted and glued in place when the pads are fitted. Now, this hole is blind on proper OEM pads like these (made by Ferodo in this case), but I have seen "off brand" pads where that hole goes all the way through the friction material. What can happen then is that the wear sensor can go all the way through, poking out the other side, meaning the sensor can wind up touching the hub of the disc, giving a false reading to the monitoring system. Given the behaviour I was seeing I had a sneaking suspicion that this was going on in my case. Should be quick to check at least. The old "wedge a bit of wood between the brake pedal and steering wheel" trick was used to ensure the light stayed lit until I found (or failed to find) the offending sensor. While I was situating the pedal wedging device I noticed something odd on the back of hand. Blue tinted water... there's only one place that will be coming from, the cooling system...and suspect number one is right in the neighborhood. Figures I found that less than an hour after ordering a bunch of parts from Mercedes (more on that later). Unplugging the first three pad wear sensors did nothing, however when I unplugged the last one the light went out and stayed out. We have a false positive from the last sensor. I have temporarily disabled it by putting an insulating sleeve over the pin in the connector. I've still got three working sensors, and it's not hard to keep tabs on pad wear. I imagine they will last a decent length of time anyhow given the relatively light duties she's going to be doing compared to normal commercial use a van might see. Will be really nice to drive it without a little red light flickering at me the whole time. I'll hopefully get her booked in for an MOT in the next day or so to *hopefully* confirm that I don't need to buy anything else. I made a trip over to my local Mercedes dealer for some parts. They have always been really helpful before, and we quickly tracked down the parts we were after. I was expecting these bits to be a little more expensive than normal car items as they're quite a bit beefier. The track rod ends were £48 each, yet the whole steering tie rod (which comes with the track rod ends as a unit) is £132. Given they've most likely been on there for 29 years I was rather expecting a bit of a fight to get them off the tie rod...so deleting half the rusted together parts I need to get moving was worth a few quid extra I thought. Likewise the drag link was available as a whole assembly for not a huge amount more than the two ends. I decided to get the new fan belt while I was there. Yes I do know I could probably have got that a bit cheaper elsewhere but it seemed the right choice given the huge pile receipts for parts during the life of the van for genuine Merc parts. Not a cheap trip! On the plus side hopefully these should all be the right parts so should just fit. The one concerning thing though was that their parts desk has been told that strictly speaking they really shouldn't be selling parts to me because it's a van. I should instead be directed to a commercial vehicle specialist down the road. I've tried to buy parts from them before, however they made it quite clear that because it was registered as a motor caravan rather than a goods vehicle their system couldn't look up parts for it. Oh, and they didn't want my business anyway as private individuals are "too much trouble" which really gave a good impression. Nor did their comment about how daft I was to be expecting a commercial vehicle specialist to have parts for an ancient camper. One of the big perks of having this van so far has been the incredible parts support from Mercedes...will be really disappointing if that ceases to be possible down to some manager meddling with things... Especially as the staff actually on the parts desk really do want to help.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Apr 24, 2019 19:06:29 GMT
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This is going to be one of the nicest ones left when you have finished with it. I suppose they are never really finished? Occasionally I go to MB truck and van for parts, they are usually very helpful. They were supplied to autotrail as pick up chassis and then had the back of the cabs cut out, so if they get funny just shove the chassis number at them and say it's for a pick up.
I guess, like anything, there are good main dealers and bad. Or even just the right guy on the parts counter will make huge difference.
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Last Edit: Apr 24, 2019 19:09:07 GMT by generallee
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Apr 24, 2019 23:58:40 GMT
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Assuming that Parcel Force don't foul up this delivery (they have managed to mess up all three this month so far so I'm not holding my breath), my new exhaust for the van should be here tomorrow.
Regarding the parts issue, it's not our parts desk who are the issue. It's an order from on high apparently, an order that one of the two folks I spoke to was just about spitting feathers about how stupid it was. As far as they're concerned the parts come from the same factory in the same truck to the same warehouses and are on the same ordering system... there's no reason for them not to get us the parts.
They don't want every tradesman in the country turning up and arguing about the fact that they can't have every nut and bolt for their clapped out old Sprinter that's leaking diesel all over the car park, I can understand that - but a bit of common sense should tell them that a nearly 30 year old camper based on a nearly extinct chassis isn't exactly going to take a huge amount of their time.
They pointed me to Intercounty Truck & Van if I remember the name right, who seemed to think I may as well have been asking for spares for a 1926 Bugatti because it's more than ten years old. They also seemed to think I had committed a cardinal sin by asking for parts for something not registered as a goods vehicle.
The folks on the parts desk told me that my story is pretty common...which is a real shame as if that's where they are directing me the service offered eventually reflects back on the dealer...which is a real shame as I've been massively impressed with them so far. It's been really nice to be honest the way they've actually seemed to care about trying to be helpful.
...C'mon they even went digging in the parts system to find me a replacement lens for the indicator light on the dashboard. Then we're massively apologetic about the fact that I'd have to wait a day or two for it to be sent over from Germany. Real will be a terrible shame if that's a thing of the past.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Apr 25, 2019 22:37:03 GMT
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This morning (astonishingly, exactly when it was meant to) a very large, heavy cardboard box arrived. Now I've been here before, so made a point of assembling everything on the floor before going anywhere near the vehicle. Especially on bargain basement eBay specials like this. This showed a few things. Firstly that the downpipe is indeed different to the one on the van. A little annoying as I was kind of hoping to avoid touching that based on the pain and suffering I've been through trying to get downpipes separated from manifolds in the past. Secondly was that the slip joints were really tight so would definitely need spreading out a bit before putting them together. That's definitely something I was glad to discover inside rather than while trying to slot things together on the van. Well let's make a start then. First contact with the enemy... Astonishingly, five minutes later this was in front of me. The bolts just...unbolted. No heat, no power tools, no fuss. I'm slightly baffled by the concept of a downpipe to manifold joint coming apart without hassle! Not going to complain though. A large amount of faffing around then ensued while I figured out which hangers went where (as this system is a significantly different layout to the one which came off), figured out exactly what order I needed to put things together in, and battered things with a 4lb lump hammer to correct a couple of bend angles. Pretty much what I expected from a cheap exhaust to be honest...three hours of *making* it fit followed by twenty minutes actually putting it together. Eventually we got there. Had to alter the tailpipe to sit a little lower on account of the grey water tank. Just need to get a bracket put together for the last hanger there...had hoped I could do without it (the system is plenty well supported) but the tailpipe vibrates and buzzes like mad at idle, so it's needed to help damp that vibration. Starting it up astonishingly revealed it to both be gas tight and to not be touching and buzzing against anything. Was rather surprised though when I touched the throttle and was presented with a very throaty exhaust note. I have a sneaking suspicion that this bargain basement silencer doesn't actually contain any baffles. This is the kind of observation which is worthless without evidence isn't it... Not that I'm complaining...that's a nice noise I think...one straight out of a few decades ago. Yes she's a bit smokey, hasn't left the driveway since October so she needs a good run. Usually runs clean as a whistle. Thankfully it's not boomy as that would get annoying in a real hurry I reckon on a long trip. I'll be curious to see how it actually sounds on the move though. Obviously that will have to wait until the trip to the MOT station as it's currently out of test so I can't exactly go out for a quick test run. Wasn't actually that hard to fit really. Bit annoying that the fit needed a little "gentle persuasion" but not really surprising at this price point, and I don't think I've ever fitted an exhaust that was anything less than maddeningly awkward. Well...save for the one on my lawn mower maybe. Feel confident enough to get it in for a test now, was a bit worried that the remains of the exhaust would wind up going through somebody's windscreen before. Plus a shiny new exhaust should hopefully show the tester I'm actually willing to put some work in to looking after the van...the invoice for £300 worth of genuine parts for the known fail items should give a decent impression too I'd hope.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Looking good, hopefully the cheapo exhaust will last a while. Would a stainless one be a good investment? Given that there is not actaully much pipework it might not be too expensive. The reason that the downpipe bolts came out, is that these are cool running things and it hasn't been roasted up like it would be on a petrol. Thats my theory anyway!
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Apr 26, 2019 10:21:33 GMT
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Looking good, hopefully the cheapo exhaust will last a while. Would a stainless one be a good investment? Given that there is not actaully much pipework it might not be too expensive. The reason that the downpipe bolts came out, is that these are cool running things and it hasn't been roasted up like it would be on a petrol. Thats my theory anyway! That's the plan. Long term there will be a stainless system fitted that will exit just behind the driver's door. I'd hoped to get it done before this MOT but life got in the way and my schedule slipped.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Ritchie
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 771
Club RR Member Number: 12
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Apr 26, 2019 10:32:18 GMT
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Looking good, hopefully the cheapo exhaust will last a while. Would a stainless one be a good investment? Given that there is not actaully much pipework it might not be too expensive. The reason that the downpipe bolts came out, is that these are cool running things and it hasn't been roasted up like it would be on a petrol. Thats my theory anyway! That's the plan. Long term there will be a stainless system fitted that will exit just behind the driver's door. I'd hoped to get it done before this MOT but life got in the way and my schedule slipped. I know the feeling!
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Apr 26, 2019 14:10:13 GMT
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Now at the testing station.
It's one that does mostly commercial stuff so a far cry from my usual independent little garage where I'm involved in half the test...just sitting in a corner and waiting feels extremely odd.
Know it will fail on the ball joints (new ones are sitting in the luggage compartment) but just praying that nothing else serious turns up.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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trimtechniques
Part of things
Porsche 928 4.7 ltrs of German grunt. Mazda MX-5 MK1 Dakar. VW T4 camper
Posts: 158
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Apr 26, 2019 15:49:17 GMT
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Got everything crossed that you do OK with the MOT. Great thread. Great read!
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Apr 26, 2019 16:45:08 GMT
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That could have been a lot worse. Failed on 2x TREs and drag link ball joint obviously. Also the prop shaft CV boot which was known but forgotten about going into the test, rear brake imbalance, high nearside headlamp aim and missing rear reflectors. The missing reflectors is an odd one as they're integral to the tail light lenses...don't want to be seen as arguing with the tester...but sorry mate you're wrong there. The tail lights are configured right now exactly as they left the Mercedes factory. Propshaft CV boot is a simple fix, tester confirmed that quickest way is to just unbolt the centre bearing carrier and lower the propshaft until the slip joint separates. Rear brake imbalance...blarg. The garage can have that one to sort. I'm not faffing with brakes against the clock. Especially as I seem to remember the self adjuster on these being fiendishly complicated. Headlight aim, fair enough. I fitted a new light a couple of days back and hadn't even looked at the aim so far (it's on the to do list for the weekend). I'll do the propshaft CV boot, headlight aim, probably stick on a couple of trailer reflectors as it's easier than arguing with the tester, and will give the ball joints the opportunity to come apart. If they do I'll swap them, if they put up any fight though the garage can do it on Monday. Looks like we've got a reasonable chance of being ready for Thursday. The exhaust is frankly hilarious. It's a real proper old school "BraaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAmmmm..." Through each gear just now...
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Apr 27, 2019 22:31:59 GMT
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Let's see what we can do to take a few chunks out of the MOT remedial work list. First target is going to be the propshaft slip joint boot. It's been in the garage now for a few months waiting to be fitted...let's get to it. Initially my plan had been to minimise the degree to which I had to dismantle things - hoping that I could get away with simply dropping the centre prop bearing assembly. Unfortunately it turns out that this doesn't give enough clearance to separate the splined section on the rear prop from the socket on the front section. Shame as I'd already removed a couple of bits of the exhaust (which I fitted a couple of days ago!) for access. So had to put them back together again. On the plus side, this did give me the ability to check the state of the bearing on the centre prop carrier - it's silky smooth and has no detectable play in it. The reason I had really been hoping to get away with removing things from the front was that I really didn't want to have to try to get the bolts out of this. There's no leak here - things had been sprayed down with Plusgas shortly before I took the photo. I was forced to pause at that point as the nuts on the rear flange on the prop were 15mm...a size which I knew for a fact I lacked a spanner in. No way to get a socket on there because of the proximity of the universal joint...You can *just* get a ring spanner onto the nut on four of them, but a socket was a non starter. This meant that I had to make yet another trip round to Halfords to pick up a spanner. I wasn't sure whether the entire prop was balanced as an assembly or if the front and rear sections were done separately...so I marked the rear flange to ensure that it was reassembled in the same position as it was removed (I had the handbrake on and the van in gear to ensure that neither end could move). Once all the bolts were removed the rear of the propshaft was lowered to the ground. It's heavy and especially in the confined space under the van is a bit cumbersome, but isn't impossible to manage single handedly. I did want to make sure that I didn't just whack the splined section on the brickwork of the driveway when I withdrew it though so grabbed an old cardboard box for it to drop onto. It was then withdrawn from the socket in the front section until it dropped onto the box, While being careful to protect the splined section it was a simple matter to then remove it from under the vehicle. On the plus side, it's much easier to work on the prop with it actually free from the van. Especially getting the original metal sprung clip that was holding the remainder of the old boot on off. Not much left of the old one! The remainder I believe to be finely atomised and spread over a stretch of the A421 just outside Buckingham. I then gave the splined joint a thorough clean to get rid of all traced of the old grease and any contaminants. Then it was given a liberal coating of CV joint grease (I must have had that pot going on 15 years now) and the new boot slipped into place. I gave the bolts all a quick scrub with the wire brush to clean the threads up before getting ready to reassemble things. I'm pretty sure that there was some sort of thread lock used during the original assembly, so got mine out ready to be used during assembly. It was a pretty simple (if slightly physically awkward) process to slot the propshaft back together and bolt the rear flange back together. By some complete fluke I actually managed to get it lined up perfectly on the first try! The boot was then fastened in place. This would have been done using metal clips originally but I don't have the special pliers you need to fasten them so a couple of cable ties will have to do for now. I will look to get a pair bought in though as I'd obviously like to get the metal clips in there - they were supplied with the boot after all. That done it was time to tick a few other things off. The "missing rear reflectors" was a bit of a head scratcher as they're integral to the tail lights - though if the lights are on it would be easy to miss. The reflector is plain to see if the camera flash is used. I'd rather not argue with the tester though, for dug out a couple of reflectors that I had floating around in the garage and stuck them on the back. The headlamp aim was unsurprisingly miles off given that I had fitted a brand new headlight to the nearside a few days ago. Didn't take long to adjust that back to something resembling a normal beam pattern. One thing I was reminded of standing there with the engine running is that I really need to fix a proper patch onto the air cleaner assembly as there's a hole in it. This is on the outside of the filter element so isn't important from an air filtration perspective - it does however result in a boomy resonance from the induction side of things which sounds like a blowing exhaust and is quite tiresome. Might see if I can get that sorted before we leave on Thursday. Final thing I did for the day was stick a little trim on the exhaust. A joint effort between it being because I thought the finish on the really cheap exhaust wasn't great so I wanted to tidy it up, and also to shift the tailpipe out slightly so it was venting slightly past rather than directly in front of the rear wheel. Not that the exhaust gas temperatures are particularly high from this engine, but I'd rather not cook the tyre if I can avoid it. Tomorrow I'll see if the ball joints want to play nicely...I'm guessing not given how easy everything has been so far...Karma is surely going to come back and bite me at some point soon!
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Apr 28, 2019 21:05:53 GMT
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Not much to report. Was busy this afternoon so only had an hour to devote to car stuff. Decided to see if the track rod ends would play nicely as if so swapping the the rod would be the work of a few minutes. It was immediately apparent that the split pins weren't interested in moving. Fine, that's a fight the garage can have tomorrow. I'd really rather not immobilise the vehicle fighting with it. I did however spend a bit of time scraping thirty years worth of congealed brake dust impregnated grease off the back of the hubs and axle. That's just nasty. The work of the garage should be sped along by the fact that they don't need to separate any of the TREs from their respective linkages as there is an entire new drag link and tie rod complete with new TREs ready to go on. Should allow them to copy the alignment settings easily as well which will save a few minutes. All proper genuine parts of course. Nice to see stuff still coming in old school grease paper even today. Hopefully we'll have a fresh MOT in the next 24 hours.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:25:39 GMT
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So I had really been hoping the rear brakes were going to be a simple "strip, clean, possibly new shoes, adjust, reassemble, retest" job.
Had a call this afternoon. Both drums are stuffed (presumably it's been run for ages with the handbrake dragging), shoes were obviously equally stuffed *and* both wheel cylinders were knackered (one weeping, one seized). Oh joy, more £££s to spend.
Why do I get the feeling I'm going to be massively lucky if I get out of this job with change from £500...was already £300 of parts in before the brake issues!
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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